I got one :

You have said you have the support of the adult industry? You say this can be good for the adult industry? Then please share with us the companies and individuals that have given their support? When he declines,then ask if its a good thing why all the secrets?

This wont happen but I can dream ? lol

That is a perfectly good question, and one that keeps being avoided. I want to know who I will continue to do business with and who I won't. Like with Zango, I won't do business with companies who support it. So, this should be the first questions that is answered so everyone can get on with the other questions. Of course they people in this industry are the biggest group of pussies I have ever seen in my life, hence the fact that this question will not be answered.

According to those who are involved in the show, and the tone of your post, we are all supposed act as if it will pass and find a way to make a smooth transition into it. Roll over and take our ass fucking while they talk us through it. Well, that sounds like it's a done deal to me and they simply want to present us with the illusion that we have a voice. Why don't they just print it all up nice and neat and mail it to us. Spare us the bullshit.

We all know the hard hitting questions will not be answered. Questions like "Who exactly is supporting .XXX?" and "What organizations made deals to profit from .XXX, and how much will they make per domain?" Will never get an answer. :2 cents:

Here are a few, though I do not expect an answer to any of them.

How will .XXX help prevent children for accessing online porn, when in fact .KIDS would do a much better job in doing so if computers were set to only allow .KIDS domains to be accessed?

Would it not be easier for a child to sit down and just type ANYTHING.XXX and find porn?

Doesn't .XXX put the adult industry in harms way for future problems in the event any one group or government wants to censor, shut down, tax, or use it to force us from our .COM domains? Though .KIDS would not do this and completely protect the children.

So why would you NOT want to protect the children AND our industry at the same time?

And that is what needs to happen.

If I knew a company was selling, promoting ANYTHING harmful to this industry, I would cease all business with them.

:thumbsup

I would like to see a vote of the webmasters in the room at the time of the seminar. If the majority vote NO to .XXX - then he agrees to fuck off forever :)

not sure if such kind of questions will get asked, but

should ICANN officially reject .xxx in the following weeks/months, will you cut your losses and abandon this idea for good or will you try to push the .xxx TLD again in a year in the new round of applications for TLD's?

you should replace "will there be?" with "would there be?" :helpme

"Are" with "would"

etc

on a second note, does anyone IN THIS INDUSTRY really cares, that should the .xxx TLD be approved, would anyone be able to register muslims.xxx or not?

I mean this can be viewed as an interesting question, but I don't see the relevancy to us...... unless someone who will be sitting in the audience is already shooting content and his dream is to open a hardcore paysite under muslims.xxx and then skin GFY for a week to get everyone promoting him?

what happens to porn sites on .com domains that are operated by non-us individuals or companies?

will billing companies be forced to bill only for .xxx sites?


(if the answers are "nothing" and "no" i foresee a very profitable future for me :) )

some great questions.


your last question is a very interesting one, because to protect children, means filtering and blocking and i am sure 99.9% of adult webmasters don't want children to be looking at their stuff.... but this is also about adults who don't want to see porn....

whether with labeling with ASACP's RTA label (http://www.rtalabel.org), using ICRA, or having the .XXX extension, these elements can and would be used by filtering technology to block.

There are already blacklists that firewall/proxy hardware uses in corporate america.. using additional ways to block will certainly be added.

The flipside argument is not looking at who is being filtered out, but who will be filtered in.. ie. adults who want to see porn will find it easier to spot (i know that is a stretch because porn is so easy to find).

For example... veganporn.com , not a porn site, but you would think it was by looking at it.


veganporn.xxx would visually indicate a porn site.

So the argument that ICM/IFFOR has suggested is that this visual marking will keep kids and adults out because they saw the .XXX warning.

This same argument has been applied to the "click if over 18", but we know minors can still get in, but by doing so, was to put up some kind of defensivable position in court to show that the website had done what it could to warn about the "sexually explicit" content inside.

I believe that those Congressman that think .XXX is going to be some magic answer to protect children and adult from seeing "the bad" stuff, they should make .XXX a safe-harbour zone.. meaning if you have a .XXX domain, then there is no way to prosecute for obscenity, because the domain was clearly labelled.

I think that this kind of talk would make many conservatives and religious folks shudder because it would clearly say that porn was ok and was protected as long as it was in its "virtual red light district".


Fight the mylittlepony.xxx!

Then you would probably be not promoting several large programs or stop reading a magazine.... and i understand that is what you would do.

The reason that you don't see a published list of supporters by the anti-.XXX folks, is because alot of talk is hearsay, gossip, rumours, etc. Some people have been privy to direct conversations, but if they started to publish the info, they would get hit with a lawsuit as well as losing any kind of traffic/biz deals they had going.

.XXX is not about protecting kids, its about making .$$$ on traffic and cyberspace real estate.


Fight the boycotting!

the question goes more towards what concessions were made to appease GAC members of ICANN (the international community).

Other TLDs don't have as many restrictions, rules, etc that this .XXX TLD has, which makes this a very unique TLD... that statement alone is what has caused alot of concern amongst those watching the ICANN process, that the development of the namespace is being carved out with restrictions and rules.



Fight the dub-yah.xxx!

For those that want some more reading on .XXX plans:

http://www.icann.org/tlds/kids3/HTML/Annex_1.html

this line is interesting:

"ICM Registry is proposing the creation of two TLDs-.XXX for adult entertainment and .KIDS for material geared to Internet users aged 12 and under-both managed through a revolutionary registry model developed by the company. The model is applicable for the development and management of any TLD, though the two embedded in the ICM Registry proposal specifically and effectively address some key public policy concerns raised by ICANN."

further down:

"ICM Registry believes that its model presents the best opportunity to successfully balance these interests, while preserving the Internet as the key medium not just for consumer choice but for the free exchange of ideas. For this reason, the ICM Registry proposal centers on the creation of two new TLDs:

* .XXX for adult entertainment;
* .KIDS for Internet use by children 12 and under."



so that brings up the natural question, has the .KIDS TLD idea been abandoned?



Fight the homework assignments!

good question.
also, what would happen to porn sites on a ccTLD (country code TLD) like hooters.ca (just an example, didn't if check what site is there) if ICANN deside every porn site to be on a .XXX tld ?



if nobody address this question i'll make a thread of this.

a very good point and one that is definitely on the question list.


Fight the owls.xxx!

Why dont they make it mandatory for all Adult sites to have a meta tag in our head tags that programs can use to identify us as a porn site. Cheap and easy to implement and much much more effective for those who want their browser to filter out porn.

just be sure to use the spell checker and some better grammar on those questions of mine before you pass them on, cause taking a look at them now I realize i'm the laziest bastard on the net LOL

That's exactly what has been proposed in like 2-3 congressional bills....

The problem is that in the language of those bills, you miss labelling one of your pages and you committed a felony.

better to voluntarily label like with http://www.rtalabel.org

Yes, it does mean that child protection software could use the label to block, but that is the point.

Yes, it does mean that corporations could use the tag (or icra or blacklists) to block porn sites at work (blocking).


Fight the tackling!

This is the second person now i seen you talk shit about that you were way off base. FightThisPatent has been a active webmaster in are community and i think he is a very good choice for a moderator in this case. Now since you wanna make a statement like "how much did you sell out for?" I suggest that you back it up with some proof. Now go ahead and make 10k of threads how .xxx makes your elbows itch and your prostate tingles and quit talking shit about people you have no clue about.

If anyone you should be questioning is xbiz for allowing the platform to even happen in the first place:2 cents:

1) i am not going to ask questions that i know won't get a response and not be relevant. if an audience member wants to ask those kinds of questions, then THEY can (and most likely will not get an answer). The "real" questions are ones that clarify the ambiguity of what .XXX is claiming, not the gossip ragging that is fuel for folly and achieves no purpose.

2) and everyone has their ignorance level. To answer your question directly, i have not been bought off, switched sides, or compromised my position on .XXX and have done more with my time to oppose .XXX than 99% of the keyboard warriors

3) so that means you have no questions to get clarifications on what .XXX is about? If you were going to make the business decision to purchase .XXX domains, don't you want to know what are the implications of it? I posed a "real" question about the WHOIS policy, i brought up that they will be validating email addresses, etc. There is alot more more rules that apply to .XXX TLD than any other TLD. Now, if you are saying you aren't going to buy any .XXX domains, then you don't have any questions because .XXX is irrelevant to you. But, to the many who did their pre-registrations, they might want to know what they are getting themselves into.


Such an interesting observation how quickly (fickle) webmasters can be.. pointing fingers, making assumptions, taking sides, and contributing to the divide in the adult industry, when what is needed is a more unified stance.

Division, ignorance and misinformation are excellent tools of war and business. Looks like so many are playing into that.



Fight the lawd have mercy!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

BoyAlley, while what you say does seem to have some good points, I'd like to believe that you're completely wrong.

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on another note, have you sent your anti- .xxx comment? I've been following day to day the ICANN Forum but haven't seen anything from AlleyBucks.

thats smart, I agree :upsidedow

no, because those "talk show hosts" are selling something.. I am not. I have no interest in being a part of "shaping .XXX".

what i have done and continue to do these last 3 years is my role as a watchdog is to address issues. I have clear positions on all of the issues that i have been doing activism for: acacia, 2257, cp, .XXX, etc

knowledge is power.. and it seems you rather webmasters be ignorant, in thinking if they heard "the enemy" speak, that it would some how hypnotize them into thinking .XXX is good.

asking questions and listening to answers is important to understanding what is facing you. if you rather believe that .XXX is just pure evil and bad, and you need to run away from it, then that's fine. But licensing with Acacia or purchasing .XXX domains are hard business decisions that businesses had/have to face.. and i have chosen this self-proclaimed role of watchdog because i think business people should have the right facts and information to make business decisions.

Your yellow posts are hynotizing, and your posts in various threads have been entertaining.. many times laugh-outloud at your overt gayness (hence my salute to you in my previous tagline).

if i may suggest, focus your energy on positive outcomes, rather than negative fingerpointing that doesn't serve any purpose unless your intent is to discredit me.

Fight the agendas!

if I could moderate a panel that Acacia was on, i would do it in a heartbeat.


There are no limitations placed on questions. Xbiz has not limited any questions in any way.

*I* said in my opening post, that *I* am looking for questions from webmasters to present in my opening segment of questions.. where *I* don't want any questions like "who in the adult biz is backing this?" because i know it won't get answered, and i don't think its relevant to the scope of the panel.

If an audience member wants to ask, they can do whatever they want. They can ask about lawley's sexual preference.. but don't expect an answer for every question.

I am looking for webmasters to ask questions that will help to give answers as to what they want to know that gives them information about whether to get a .XXX domain or not.

Knowing which industry players are involved with .XXX won't make the business decision.

Those that are upset, know in vague terms that yes, some adult industry players/leaders do support .XXX.. that information alone has given some the info to not get .XXX domains.

Knowing which specific companies support .XXX won't change minds, it will only serve a witch hunt.


Fight the build a bridge out of her!

excuse my ignorance of gay culture, but isn't "gay homosexual" like a double negative? doesn't that not mean the person is actually straight?


Fight the clarifications.xxx !

Your right and sadly all they are going to do is throw softball questions at this guy,its shows you how against it they truly are. Im very surprised at brandon for taking part in this bullshit.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

If they want to get .xxx domains or not, if we want to stay in business we really have no choice but to take the ass fucking.They have been trying to make it a law when it didn't exist ,so how long you think its going to take once it exists? God your funny.Once again I m surprised at you
Also how the fuck can we make any decision when iffor doesnt exist and its the governing body? What trust the snake? lol
Also its not a witch hunt if backroom deals happened there is talk of serious legal action.

if there's anyone with integrity in this business then it's without a doubt Brandon :2 cents: