My letter to ICANN - GoFuckYourself.com

seeric · 02-02-2007, 03:10 PM

To whom it may concern:

I am an adult webmaster working in the adult online business. I am also a veteran of the USAF and a decorated E-5 Non Commissioned Officer. I was a Police Officer for 5 years from 1988-1993. To believe that a TLD itself will protect children and keep them safe is to be naïve and tunnel-visioned in our perception of what .XXX is designed to do, which is make a few people a lot of money at the expense of others. I strongly oppose .XXX as a method for preventing children from seeing adult materials online. The originator of this proposal is clearly motivated by money and the adult internet rejects his principals.

The .XXX TLD will not prevent children from seeing pornography on the Internet. The .XXX TLD will not prevent children from being preyed upon and abused by Internet predators. I don?t see Dateline with Chris Hansen talking about pornographic websites as a catalyst to those sick people that they snare on their ?To Catch A Predator? show. The .XXX TLD will not stop pornographic unsolicited emails (SPAM). What .XXX will do is line the pockets of the proposals creator, nothing more. The proposals creator cares not of children.

.XXX will not make it any harder for children to access adult materials. Regardless of filtering or whatever other mechanisms we think that we can apply to a domain extension, nothing will work. What works is parents being responsible for their children by being aware of what they are doing. By proposing and enacting .KIDS, software may be installed that will only allow .KIDS domains to resolve. .COM will always have some sort of pornographic affiliated with it. There are renegades all over the world that really don?t care what TLDs we use. The only course of action is to hold parents accountable and provide them a tool (.KIDS) so they may allow only those .KIDS domains to resolve in their homes. If ICM/IFFOR care about children, they would be spending their time trying to get the .KIDS TLD passed. Please, help us all protect our children, nieces, nephews, and grandchildren by working towards a .KIDS TLD. Thank you for your consideration.

I?m not going to get longwinded on you as I am sure you have 1000?s of these to read. .XXX is a bad idea, designed by mere financial opportunists that recognized a potential opportunity. Lets not play their game, but instead do something that really will protect the countries children, and those around the world should other countries decide to follow in the path that is created by pushing through a .KIDS TLD.

Thank you

A concerned veteran

You still have time to get your comments in. I don't care how many people have ICQ'd me to tell me that we have lost the battle. That's bullshit. This is far from over. Now is the time to get stronger, not give up.

Send your comments to [email protected] by feb 5th.

sextoyking · 02-02-2007, 03:14 PM

Good Letter!!

ayne468 · 02-02-2007, 03:18 PM

nice letter...lets hope it makes a difference

davecummings · 02-02-2007, 03:20 PM

That's a FANTASTIC letter--thanks!

Dave

polish_aristocrat · 02-02-2007, 03:20 PM

nice letter

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

I don't care how many people have ICQ'd me to tell me that we have lost the battle. That's bullshit. This is far from over.

I definitely agree on this. To be honest, If I had to take a guess, I'd say .xxx won't be approved this year (ok, the year has just started, but from my understanding ICANN is going to close the current round of TLD applications within a few months so they won't be delaying the final decision on .xxx for another 12 months anymore as it happened last year - I expect them to be voting on .xxx and finally either approve it or reject it in about March 2007)

BoyAlley · 02-02-2007, 03:21 PM

Very good job

polish_aristocrat · 02-02-2007, 03:23 PM

hmmm I just noticed that Stephen from Xbiz shared his point of view and sent his letter to ICANN today as well

http://xbiz.com/blogs/blog.php?catid=56#19437

seeric · 02-02-2007, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

hmmm I just noticed that Stephen from Xbiz shared his point of view and sent his letter to ICANN today as well

http://xbiz.com/blogs/blog.php?catid=56#19437

.kids would protect children from the other things he discussed that are bad for children too. its all encompassing.

polish_aristocrat · 02-02-2007, 03:31 PM

i truly hope ICANN kills thing .xxx for good now

that would be a great news and perhaps ICM would get finally the message that they are not wanted and they would decide to cut their losses and move on with their lifes/business ideas instead of bothering us with the .xxx threat for another 5 years ;)

polish_aristocrat · 02-02-2007, 03:44 PM

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/702311-government-canada-message-regarding-xxx.html

seeric · 02-02-2007, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/702311-government-canada-message-regarding-xxx.html

Other countries and their governments should be strongly opposed to .xxx. who really wants ICANN playing internet cop for the world?

i suspect that even if they do pass it, it will burn up in a ball of chaos as the world shoves it back down their throats.

i would encourage people to not show fear by registering .xxx when it goes through as it will be used to show that we want .xxx because "look all of them are registering the .xxx names. they want to police themselves."

don't fall for the game they are playing.

polish_aristocrat · 02-02-2007, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

Other countries and their governments should be strongly opposed to .xxx. who really wants ICANN playing internet cop for the world?

not sure about other countries, but that Canada letter made me smile

you know,we are wondering if our letters have any impact, if they are read by anyone etc... many people are afraid that now the revised ICM's contract has more chances to be approved as you saif

so im really glad for that Canada letter .. while Canadian Government is not as importans as the US Dep. Od Commerce, it still must have some impact

it also shows that the opposition against .xxx is still strong

seeric · 02-02-2007, 04:34 PM

there are lots and lots of eyes on those public comments now. words have power.

vod · 02-02-2007, 04:51 PM

good stuff, will I seeya in Costaricabash.com ?

seeric · 02-02-2007, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vod

good stuff, will I seeya in Costaricabash.com ?

you know it baby

SURFING WITH CASEY PARKER!!!!!!

tony286 · 02-02-2007, 04:56 PM

great letter man

seeric · 02-02-2007, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

great letter man

thanks. i wish more people would take this serious.

many are foreigners and are not getting the impact this will have. i feel many people are taking the "nothing will happen to me" attitude.

polish_aristocrat · 02-03-2007, 05:09 AM

bumpppppp

seeric · 02-03-2007, 03:10 PM

woooooooooooooooooooooooof

x-zoom · 02-03-2007, 03:12 PM

good letter you've wrote there

pocketkangaroo · 02-03-2007, 11:44 PM

Just saw this and think it deserves a bump. Well written and professional. Lets hope others can do the same and really put pressure on them.

polish_aristocrat · 02-04-2007, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Just saw this and think it deserves a bump. Well written and professional. Lets hope others can do the same and really put pressure on them.

Jman · 02-04-2007, 01:28 PM

That's an awesome letter ;-)

seeric · 03-03-2007, 12:45 PM

apparently they aren't done hearing that we don't want this. this is the third time i will be submitting this exact letter. maybe they aren't sure where i stand.

davecummings · 03-04-2007, 08:45 AM

ICANN ICANN Email List Archives
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As Part of The "Sponsored Community", like the VAST majority, I ask ICANN to Permanently Kill .xxx
To: <xxx-icm-agreement@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: As Part of The "Sponsored Community", like the VAST majority, I ask ICANN to Permanently Kill .xxx
From: "Dave C." <davec@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:54:35 -0800

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My stage name is "Dave Cummings" and, besides my www.davecummings.com website,
I own many adult dot.com domains. Contrary to ICM's subjective claims, I see
almost ZERO Sponsored Community support for .xxx, but I do indeed see
CONSIDERABLE opposition to it. Please permanently deny .xxx ---it's NOT wanted
by the Sponsored Community, and it's not an appropriate potential legal mess
for ICANN to become trapped into.

Sincerely,

Dave Cummings/D. Charles Conners

seeric · 03-05-2007, 09:05 AM

you still have time to email icann your displeasures with this.

tell them you are in the industry.

they need to know that webmasters are not wanting this. if you don't state you are a webmaster they will assume you are not.

thanks.

back to work.

jaromir · 03-05-2007, 10:41 AM

good writed Airek, i writed him very similar letter, with aproximately same size, that this will not protect children and that wasn't real to move whole erotic "things" to the one top level domain.

It will be easily for me to do copy&paste that write some review:

Subject:"Strong NO to the dot XXX top level domain."
Body:
"
Hi,

I'm the adult webmaster from the year 1999 and i want, this way, say strong
NO to the dot XXX top level domain name.

Every single activity on the Internet don't need his own top-level domain
name! Imagine 10.000.000 top level domain names as is dot car, dot rent,
dot buy, dot sell, dot shop, dot fish, dot clock, dot xxx ...

Respect freedom of the speech and NOT restrict all sexual activities on the
single one top level domain name. Who will be responsible to say if some WWW
must be or not must be in this dot XXX?! What is ok for you, will be
strongly NOT ok for some muslims, jews or some others!For the some people on
the world is ok only girl which is totally clothed and not exit his own
house for whole his long life...

Respect freedom of the speech, respect democracy, respect the nature of the
capitalism and reject this crazy comunist regulation censorship dot xxx idea
right now and forever!

Yours sincerely
'

02-02-2007, 03:14 PM	#2
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02-02-2007, 03:18 PM	#3
ayne468 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,738	nice letter...lets hope it makes a difference __________________

02-02-2007, 03:23 PM	#7
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	hmmm I just noticed that Stephen from Xbiz shared his point of view and sent his letter to ICANN today as well http://xbiz.com/blogs/blog.php?catid=56#19437 __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

02-02-2007, 03:31 PM	#9
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	i truly hope ICANN kills thing .xxx for good now that would be a great news and perhaps ICM would get finally the message that they are not wanted and they would decide to cut their losses and move on with their lifes/business ideas instead of bothering us with the .xxx threat for another 5 years ;) __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

02-02-2007, 03:44 PM	#10
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/702311-government-canada-message-regarding-xxx.html __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

02-02-2007, 03:10 PM	#1
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	My letter to ICANN To whom it may concern: I am an adult webmaster working in the adult online business. I am also a veteran of the USAF and a decorated E-5 Non Commissioned Officer. I was a Police Officer for 5 years from 1988-1993. To believe that a TLD itself will protect children and keep them safe is to be naïve and tunnel-visioned in our perception of what .XXX is designed to do, which is make a few people a lot of money at the expense of others. I strongly oppose .XXX as a method for preventing children from seeing adult materials online. The originator of this proposal is clearly motivated by money and the adult internet rejects his principals. The .XXX TLD will not prevent children from seeing pornography on the Internet. The .XXX TLD will not prevent children from being preyed upon and abused by Internet predators. I don?t see Dateline with Chris Hansen talking about pornographic websites as a catalyst to those sick people that they snare on their ?To Catch A Predator? show. The .XXX TLD will not stop pornographic unsolicited emails (SPAM). What .XXX will do is line the pockets of the proposals creator, nothing more. The proposals creator cares not of children. .XXX will not make it any harder for children to access adult materials. Regardless of filtering or whatever other mechanisms we think that we can apply to a domain extension, nothing will work. What works is parents being responsible for their children by being aware of what they are doing. By proposing and enacting .KIDS, software may be installed that will only allow .KIDS domains to resolve. .COM will always have some sort of pornographic affiliated with it. There are renegades all over the world that really don?t care what TLDs we use. The only course of action is to hold parents accountable and provide them a tool (.KIDS) so they may allow only those .KIDS domains to resolve in their homes. If ICM/IFFOR care about children, they would be spending their time trying to get the .KIDS TLD passed. Please, help us all protect our children, nieces, nephews, and grandchildren by working towards a .KIDS TLD. Thank you for your consideration. I?m not going to get longwinded on you as I am sure you have 1000?s of these to read. .XXX is a bad idea, designed by mere financial opportunists that recognized a potential opportunity. Lets not play their game, but instead do something that really will protect the countries children, and those around the world should other countries decide to follow in the path that is created by pushing through a .KIDS TLD. Thank you A concerned veteran You still have time to get your comments in. I don't care how many people have ICQ'd me to tell me that we have lost the battle. That's bullshit. This is far from over. Now is the time to get stronger, not give up. Send your comments to [email protected] by feb 5th.

02-02-2007, 03:20 PM	#4
davecummings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,922	That's a FANTASTIC letter--thanks! Dave

02-02-2007, 03:21 PM	#6
BoyAlley So Fucking Gay Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,714	Very good job

02-02-2007, 04:34 PM	#13
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	there are lots and lots of eyes on those public comments now. words have power.

02-02-2007, 04:51 PM	#14
vod Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,510	good stuff, will I seeya in Costaricabash.com ? __________________ Adult Merchant Account

02-02-2007, 04:56 PM	#16
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	great letter man

02-03-2007, 05:09 AM	#18
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	bumpppppp

02-03-2007, 03:10 PM	#19
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	woooooooooooooooooooooooof

02-03-2007, 03:12 PM	#20
x-zoom Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NL Posts: 398	good letter you've wrote there

02-03-2007, 11:44 PM	#21
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Just saw this and think it deserves a bump. Well written and professional. Lets hope others can do the same and really put pressure on them.

02-04-2007, 01:28 PM	#23
Jman Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan Posts: 22,766	That's an awesome letter ;-) __________________ email: [email protected] Best AI Affiliate Program We also do WL at $0.00 upfront costs FantasyXXX.AI Teams: jean.francois.laverdiere TG: @jman1216

03-03-2007, 12:45 PM	#24
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	apparently they aren't done hearing that we don't want this. this is the third time i will be submitting this exact letter. maybe they aren't sure where i stand.

03-04-2007, 08:45 AM	#25
davecummings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,922	ICANN ICANN Email List Archives [xxx-icm-agreement] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <<< Chronological Index >>> <<< Thread Index >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As Part of The "Sponsored Community", like the VAST majority, I ask ICANN to Permanently Kill .xxx To: <xxx-icm-agreement@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: As Part of The "Sponsored Community", like the VAST majority, I ask ICANN to Permanently Kill .xxx From: "Dave C." <davec@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:54:35 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My stage name is "Dave Cummings" and, besides my www.davecummings.com website, I own many adult dot.com domains. Contrary to ICM's subjective claims, I see almost ZERO Sponsored Community support for .xxx, but I do indeed see CONSIDERABLE opposition to it. Please permanently deny .xxx ---it's NOT wanted by the Sponsored Community, and it's not an appropriate potential legal mess for ICANN to become trapped into. Sincerely, Dave Cummings/D. Charles Conners

03-05-2007, 09:05 AM	#26
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	you still have time to email icann your displeasures with this. tell them you are in the industry. they need to know that webmasters are not wanting this. if you don't state you are a webmaster they will assume you are not. thanks. back to work.

03-05-2007, 10:41 AM	#27
jaromir Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: EU - Czech Republic Posts: 556	good writed Airek, i writed him very similar letter, with aproximately same size, that this will not protect children and that wasn't real to move whole erotic "things" to the one top level domain. It will be easily for me to do copy&paste that write some review: Subject:"Strong NO to the dot XXX top level domain." Body: " Hi, I'm the adult webmaster from the year 1999 and i want, this way, say strong NO to the dot XXX top level domain name. Every single activity on the Internet don't need his own top-level domain name! Imagine 10.000.000 top level domain names as is dot car, dot rent, dot buy, dot sell, dot shop, dot fish, dot clock, dot xxx ... Respect freedom of the speech and NOT restrict all sexual activities on the single one top level domain name. Who will be responsible to say if some WWW must be or not must be in this dot XXX?! What is ok for you, will be strongly NOT ok for some muslims, jews or some others!For the some people on the world is ok only girl which is totally clothed and not exit his own house for whole his long life... Respect freedom of the speech, respect democracy, respect the nature of the capitalism and reject this crazy comunist regulation censorship dot xxx idea right now and forever! Yours sincerely ' __________________ www.Adamek.biz/buy-hardlinks/ - Buy PR1-4 adult hardlinks. www.HyperCounter.com - Free Adult Counter www.Adamek.biz - Jaromir Adamek blog, ICQ: 328-324-69, Email: "Jaromir" a__t "Adamek" d__o__t "biz"