Videotron ISP starts testing 100mbs connections - GoFuckYourself.com

RawAlex · 02-01-2007, 05:53 PM

That right, here in Quebec... looks like they are going to go right up to 100mbs... yowsa!

http://www.ccnmatthews.com/news/rele...tionFor=628688

Doctor Dre · 02-01-2007, 05:57 PM

20 mbits rock

tony286 · 02-01-2007, 05:59 PM

but will it really be that I have 10mbits and Im lucky if I see 7 tops

xenilk · 02-01-2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

but will it really be that I have 10mbits and Im lucky if I see 7 tops

The service of videotron speed-wise is pretty sweet.

Mr Pheer · 02-01-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

but will it really be that I have 10mbits and Im lucky if I see 7 tops

so if they offer you 100, and you get 70... you're going to complain?

needlive · 02-01-2007, 06:53 PM

Seems they've built a great connection system over the years...

Half a second downloading a music track is a fantastic rate...

NoWhErE · 02-01-2007, 07:15 PM

If only they would uncap their damn upload speed

directfiesta · 02-01-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE

If only they would uncap their damn upload speed

that won't happen ....

They know that if they go equal ( like dsl - without the a ), tons of people would start using the connection to host sites....

Technology is there.

Phil21 · 02-01-2007, 08:00 PM

er.. it's more than just "we don't want people to host sites". That's a bit of it, but for cable systems there is a technical reason for it.

I'm pulling this from memory, and the speeds have increased since w/ the 2.0 specification, but in general the percentages should be similar...

DOCSIS 1.0, e.g. what cable systems use to communicate specify the upload channel of a cable segment (read neighborhood that is sharing the copper plant) of around 2.1Mbit/sec iiirc. This means 2.1Mbit/sec for everyone on that segment, which can be thousands of individual modems. The downstream channel is considerably larger, around the size of a ds3.. something like 54Mbit/sec.

Feel free to look up the current specification now, but you'll see why there are such restrictive upload caps on cable plans.

For ADSL it's again largely the same thing, a portion of the spectrum is carved out for upstream communication, and a much larger portion for downstream. Newer DSL tech obviously is more symmetrical however.

So yes, there is the "don't host stuff!" business case, but in general ISP's have tons of "free" outbound capacity and are not close to using it yet, but the last-mile tech simply isn't there right now. Now, once FTTH gains significant penetration there really are no more technological excuses left

Jman · 02-01-2007, 08:03 PM

Hehehe I got videotron ;-)

northboy · 02-01-2007, 08:31 PM

heh if only they did the no ratio for the 20mbs connection, I have to use the 10 one because it's unlimited.

tehHinjew · 02-01-2007, 08:32 PM

bell stopped unlimited for EVERY ONE because they wont to crack down on pirating

northboy · 02-01-2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tehHinjew

bell stopped unlimited for EVERY ONE because they wont to crack down on pirating

oh ya? i didn't even know that, I hope videotron does not follow.

Thead · 02-01-2007, 08:41 PM

uh ok, cool because right now my connection really sucks and i'm paying for the ultra high speed connection. Really fucking slow.

Big_Red · 02-01-2007, 08:44 PM

you are only as strong as your weakest link.

RawAlex · 02-01-2007, 08:46 PM

My sympatico is still unlimited. Never had an issue.

KrisKross · 02-01-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_Red

you are only as strong as your weakest link.

People never seem to get that. The article mentions the ability to download a 50 MB trailer in 4 secs. But that only applies if you download it from a server capable of pushing the trailer to you at 100 mbps.

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

My sympatico is still unlimited. Never had an issue.

From what I've heard, all new customers are capped. And it's possible that existing customers might get capped when their contract expires.

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