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Old 02-01-2007, 06:28 AM   #51
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Considering how much you defend AFF and everything they do you really expect people to take your opinion on this seriously...

okayyyy then...
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Old 02-01-2007, 07:15 AM   #52
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no one beats AFF for Zango support.
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Old 02-01-2007, 09:18 AM   #53
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Bump to embarrass sleazydream.
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Old 02-01-2007, 09:45 AM   #54
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Sleazy, I suspect that the sandpit in which we all play is already too big for you. Either you don't have a clue how to do more than ride along on the momentum you picked up a few years ago, or you could go further, but aren't ambitious enough to figure out how.

The bragging, the bravado, aligning yourself with others who can only boast about what they did and not about what they will be doing next, are all a security blanket. A way to try to avoid admitting even to yourself that unless you get your ass in gear, 10 years from now only a few people in this business will remember who you were.

Have I got you all wrong? Possibly, but then that would make you one of the dumbest people around. Maybe you were able to make a deal this time. So what? You aren't any better off than before Zango came along and you may as well be saying "mug me" to the next scammer who happens by. Not the smartest thing for someone who does plan to be around a while...
Was going to make a long post, but you said it all much better than I could of.
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Old 02-01-2007, 10:06 AM   #55
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Keep this bumped.


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Old 02-01-2007, 11:09 AM   #56
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The decline of an adult webmaster.
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Old 02-01-2007, 11:22 AM   #57
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bump for the truth!

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Old 02-01-2007, 11:31 AM   #58
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would the woman that was raped want justice - YES
exactly.. , so why would you ask her to keep quiet about it ?

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would the woman that was raped want it to never end in the public eye?
you tell me

umm are you serious..? women come out all the time about rape.. The reason why so many women come out and EXPOSE the rapists is so that it doesnt happen to other women.

So your saying everyone should just keep quiet, we all know rape exists but nobody should talk about it or inform people when there is an active rapist on the loose , because it will incite other rapists..

Sorry but that logic is faulty. I respect your opinion not to like will76 , but i think your pointing the finger at the wrong person.
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Old 02-01-2007, 11:38 AM   #59
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exactly.. , so why would you ask her to keep quiet about it ?




umm are you serious..? women come out all the time about rape.. The reason why so many women come out and EXPOSE the rapists is so that it doesnt happen to other women.

So your saying everyone should just keep quiet, we all know rape exists but nobody should talk about it or inform people when there is an active rapist on the loose , because it will incite other rapists..

Sorry but that logic is faulty. I respect your opinion not to like will76 , but i think your pointing the finger at the wrong person.
I think you should be harsher on him than that. I suspect you know that Sleazydreams is scum, so tell him so.
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Old 02-01-2007, 11:40 AM   #60
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Old 02-01-2007, 11:46 AM   #61
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Old 02-01-2007, 11:51 AM   #62
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So this is the best way to "stick it" to Zango? By starting yet another thread?
I smell pot meet kettle
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Old 02-01-2007, 11:51 AM   #63
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:00 PM   #64
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So, can you back up your accusations?
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:03 PM   #65
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If you take an extremely large pushbroom and swipe away all the BS in this thread you should be left with the one key question that really matters ---- Is what Zango does bad?

If your answer is yes (and I don't see how anyone can arrive at any other conclusion at this point), if what Zango does is wrong, if it is bad for your business and my business, then all rational logic dictates that so too is anyone or any company who actively supports them.

I find it odd that some are okay with their sponsor stealing from them just because they "still make good money from them." I can assure you that if Donald Trump were to discover that one of the many companies he does business with was skimming 10 or 20% of the profits from that deal he would not be going on TV or online and saying "It's okay, because I still make a ton of money from them"

I find it laughable that some in our business do and say that very thing. Laughable, yet quite sad at the same time.
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:05 PM   #66
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fucking right I can be bought - only an IDIOT can't be [bought off]

but i wasn't paid off to post this
You could be bought to go against your principals?

I always thought you never had any.

BTW, your sig is a little on the large size.
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:09 PM   #67
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exactly.. , so why would you ask her to keep quiet about it ?




umm are you serious..? women come out all the time about rape.. The reason why so many women come out and EXPOSE the rapists is so that it doesnt happen to other women.

So your saying everyone should just keep quiet, we all know rape exists but nobody should talk about it or inform people when there is an active rapist on the loose , because it will incite other rapists..

Sorry but that logic is faulty. I respect your opinion not to like will76 , but i think your pointing the finger at the wrong person.
this was his same stance in the thread about epassporte and their ties to online gambling, and what threat that could pose to the funds of webmasters who use their services. i was also deemed an "idiot" for calling them on it. i don't think sleazy is even a webmaster anymore, he just seems to suck the dirtiest cocks in the industry from where i sit..
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wow sleazy, are you serious? heh... wow, just wow... i can't even fathom how stupid you are in this thread, you should just commit suicide, because you're that fucking retarded right now
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This was the truth all along?
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:34 PM   #70
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:37 PM   #71
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:59 PM   #72
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congrats will76 - you - without a doubt - made a bad problem a LOT worse.
you're a piece of shit

just out of curiousity...what WOULD have been the best way to go about addressing the issue?

keeping quiet would have somehow won the fight against zango and shut them down for good?

i fail to see your logic.
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Just curious?

SleazyDream was crying here about someone stealing his domain by some trick, carefully described later. Why did he publish that? According to himself thefts should not be published?
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Old 02-01-2007, 01:52 PM   #74
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exactly.. , so why would you ask her to keep quiet about it ?




umm are you serious..? women come out all the time about rape.. The reason why so many women come out and EXPOSE the rapists is so that it doesnt happen to other women.

So your saying everyone should just keep quiet, we all know rape exists but nobody should talk about it or inform people when there is an active rapist on the loose , because it will incite other rapists..

Sorry but that logic is faulty. I respect your opinion not to like will76 , but i think your pointing the finger at the wrong person.
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no fucking kidding.


sad how many little morons have to lash out.

proves how petty and useless they are
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how many more nics with out any link to who they are are gona slam me on here?



really makes you wonder what their adjenda is doesn't it?


sad
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Sleazy's problem is that the industry has moved on but he hasn't. He still thinks he can command respect by having some traffic and making some money. What he doesn't realise is that things do move on. If Sleazy lost his traffic tomorrow, it wouldn't be long until he was all but forgotten and lost any influence he thinks he has.

Sleazy is a dinosaur who exists a day after the asteroid strike which will ultimately lead to his demise. He still thinks he is at the top of the food chain, but already all the little mammals are surrounding him, ready to feast on his rancid flesh when reality hits home

one part is right - all the little mammals like you are nipping at my feet.

kinda says exactly what kind of person you really are.

for some reason a lot of people who have never had success think you have to knock someone out to be sucessful - those people NEVER become sucessful

if your'e resentful it will consum you. karma's a bitch. i'm off to the bank - i had a great month
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for some reason a lot of people who have never had success think you have to knock someone out to be sucessful - those people NEVER become sucessful
keep thinking that whenever someone simply doesn't agree with you on a point and tries to, unsuccessfully as usual, explain it to your stubborn self.
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Jealousy ...
I never understand why people say this. Just because you disagree with someone, don't like them, don't like the way they do business, don't like they way they are as a person, don't like the way they dress, their hairstyle, or any of the previous combined, doesn't mean you're "jealous" of them. On the whole, I'm betting most people are relatively happy with their lives and aren't jealous of someone else's
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Sleazydream got owned bady in this thread. It absolutely kills him to know it too. Lol.
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infact an even better example would be ..

A women ( our websites ) gets raped by some sick asshole ( zango ) and your saying the women shouldnt be reporting it or making a fuss because then other people will learn how easy it is to rape people.
To add to this...

Sleazy would also rape her if he even came close to breaking even while doing it.
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Clever but inaccurate spin on the entire issue.
it really isn't. a LOT and i mean a LOT of new people started using zango cause of will76


i'm really starting to think he has shares in zango or is alliated with them in some way
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To add to this...

Sleazy would also rape her if he even came close to breaking even while doing it.
careful - that's getting close to the line on gfy acceptance.
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Sleazydream got owned bady in this thread. It absolutely kills him to know it too. Lol.
why do trolls think they own someone when they don't post their name


no name and an attack means you have an adjenda.


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i'm really starting to think he has shares in zango or is alliated with them in some way
Yeah but that's cos you are thick as pigshit.
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it really isn't. a LOT and i mean a LOT of new people started using zango cause of will76


i'm really starting to think he has shares in zango or is alliated with them in some way
I can see that being the case. He did bring a lot of press to Zango with his heavy board blitz. It is a double edge sword though. Was he not supposed to say anything about it?

He did the right thing letting the webmaster community know about the ethical issues behind this program. The only problem is the negative publicity was good publicity as far as Zango was concerned. Most people aren't concerned with ethics and decided to jump on the bandwagon to make a few bucks.
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exactly. I've actually talked to several large programs that started using zango - ( o don't agree with it but they did it) specifically cause they read about it on here and how much it was doing.


congrats will76 - you - without a doubt - made a bad problem a LOT worse.




go fuck yourself asshole.


and all of you pissed about the zango popups on your site - THANK WILL76 if it pops anything other than AFF cause it's probally 70-80% that company popping on your site found out about zango cause of Will76

thank again Will76


you're a piece of shit

Hmmm and this comes from a guy who supports zango, weird.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:44 PM   #92
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and that is all the reason in the world I need to know to not waste my time replying to you.


To the other sheep who are believing what he is saying here is a little bit of education for you.

There are 2 sides to Zango, the asshole companies who buy traffic from them and the assholes who do the installing.

Bottom feeders like AFF bid on keywords and other site urls on zango. If more companies buy OUR traffic from zango all that does it run up the cost per pop up for those companies. Fuck, I am glad I am costing AFF more money, fuck'em. If I can't make them stop then I am glad I am costing them and other companies like them more money. This sounds like the reason Sneazy is pissed. His buddies at AFF had a sweet deal with zango, they probably paid next to nothing for our traffic. But because of my postings some shady companies saw this as a way for them to get traffic and they ran up the prices on AFF. Good. I am glad.
BTW, the amount of popups is the same, don't buy this morons crap. The cost per the pop is the only thing that changed. If you have zango installed you wont see more popups the cost per pop up has gone up thats it. Zango will even admit they have a limit on how many popups they will display, they want to make sure it is not too much that run too many people off.

So because of the people posting here AFF has to pay more for our traffic and they losts some affiliates so that cost them money too.

Raise your hand if you signed up to AFF and other sites using Zango because you found out they use Zango... anyone? WOW look at all those people sneazy.

The other side of zango which can hurt us is the assholes who do the installs. If more people do installs then more computers are infected and that hurts all of us, even you asshole. How many people here were doing zango installs and stopped because they had no idea what zango was doing to them and all of us. I had more then a few people contact me and thank me but did not want to admit publicy that they use to do it but now stoped. There were some people who posted on GFY that they didn't know how bad it was and they stopped. Others went out and found sites that had zango on it and informed those sites and in somce cases got those sites to stop promoting them. Others created software to block zango infected computers and inform the surfer how to get rid of the shit.

VS. how many people started doing zango installs because of my posts ? A few post whores like DorkJedi who claimed they did but probably never sent a hit in their life, or some fake nicks ( AFF supporters) who said they were doing it now just to try to make people think we were doing more harm then good. Only a moron who promotes no other affiliate programs would even think about promoting zango. If you promote other affiliates and you did zango installs you would have to be the stupidest person out there.

Ignore Sleazy, apparently he has been talking to AFF and they are not happy about their "" advertising "" cost going up.

So all the good that has come from all of this vs AFF having to pay more for zango traffic. WOW Sneazy I can see why you are pissed now, this makes perfect sense.

This will be my only reply to this matter. Take it or leave it, whatever. I am not here to make friends or impress people. I do what i think is right and fuck the rest of you who have attidues like Sneazy, that everyone cheats and can be bought. Try to buy me, see what happens. Find one person who said I have cheated them and let me know when you do. And this isn't I am better then you attitude, it's just fucking common sense, decency and good business ethics, just because most people don't have it, including you, doesn't mean you need to try to knock down the people who do the right thing.
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fucking right I can be bought - only an IDIOT can't be
thats a nice contradiction in one sentence.
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no name and an attack means you have an adjenda.


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And who is now Zango's 2nd biggest affiliate? SleazyDream! For doing exactly what he is accusing Will of doing.

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