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Old 01-31-2007, 01:47 PM   #1
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West VS East, culture extremes clashing?

You know, recently I was thinking. Yeah it happens.


With the rise of the internet, porn, acceptance of poker as a sport, gays being on TV portrayed very positively, and many other things about the west that have become fairly acceptable, the bible/talmud/qur'an labels as pure sin.


Is this partially one of the reasons why things such as Islamic Fundamentalism has gained such momentum?


I see the west becoming more "extreme" in our lifestyles. How long before high school counsellors would recommend to a failing 18 year old girl to goto the Bangbros office?

How long before gambling is legalized everywhere? ( Just announced a huge vegas-style casino opening in the UK )

How long before gay people are opening the Church of Boyalley, complete with crosses made of pink dildos and instead of holy water, holy astroglide?

Ok, that one might be far out, but....


Doesn't it make sense that the reason why more extremism is being fostered in the world, is because there is more extremism on both sides of the fence?


To us, a person of a faith calling for death to america, is probably about as offensive as a slaphappy episode is to a fundamentalist. Then that fundamentalist ( christian, muslim, jew ) in turn rallies the justice department to crack down, thereby breeding more extremism on both sides of the fence.

Humankind has come so far in the last 50 years, we're changing at an unbelievable rate. I think to a lot of people, "freedom" is a fight to allow people to indulge in every "sin" imaginable.



Does this make sense to any of you? Or am I off my rocker?
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:48 PM   #2
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Wise man say: It is not for society to define sin, but for the individual sinner.
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:49 PM   #3
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I have no problem with gays being portrayed on TV or anything, but only recently this has happened. The whole idea is that by flaunting the gayness on TV, it just makes some religious people who were once on the fence about accepting gays, become much more hardline.
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:54 PM   #4
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:56 PM   #5
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Ummmm it's not a battle between East and West.

It's all down to Islam. Since Allah has promised the Earth to the Muslims and has told them in the Qur'an that all infidels are 3rd class citizens and can be killed/ converted/ enslaved then that might be a clue as to what the problem is.
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As Lazonby said, Islam is at war with everyone not Islam. India, Indonesia, Thailand, the Phillipines, Algeria. How western are these places? Yet the attacks roll on.
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But overall what you have described is part of Samuel Huntington's thesis "Clash of Civilizations"
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Old 01-31-2007, 02:18 PM   #8
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But overall what you have described is part of Samuel Huntington's thesis "Clash of Civilizations"

Which parts? The parts about our culture and what we find acceptable?
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How long before gay people are opening the Church of Boyalley, complete with crosses made of pink dildos and instead of holy water, holy astroglide?
Astroglide is not at ALL good for anal sex. Way too thin of a lubricant.

If it's going in my ass, it better be dripping ID Lube.........

Unless we're talking about Traffic cones, then you gotta break out the crisco.....
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Old 02-01-2007, 09:07 AM   #10
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Ummmm it's not a battle between East and West.

It's all down to Islam. Since Allah has promised the Earth to the Muslims and has told them in the Qur'an that all infidels are 3rd class citizens and can be killed/ converted/ enslaved then that might be a clue as to what the problem is.
Hey guys you are all lookin in a pipe and you think you see everything....

Have you ever heard of the Crusades?????????

The islam was already there but wasn't it the christians who wanted to invade every non-christians?????

You are mixing the war of Bush with some religious-cultural fog u know nothing about
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Old 02-01-2007, 09:11 AM   #11
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As Lazonby said, Islam is at war with everyone not Islam. India, Indonesia, Thailand, the Phillipines, Algeria. How western are these places? Yet the attacks roll on.



what about the war between Iraq and Iran? islamic-islamic war.....get it ?
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Old 02-01-2007, 09:14 AM   #12
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Hey guys you are all lookin in a pipe and you think you see everything....

Have you ever heard of the Crusades?????????

The islam was already there but wasn't it the christians who wanted to invade every non-christians?????

You are mixing the war of Bush with some religious-cultural fog u know nothing about
How unknowledgeable. Would the crusades have had to occur if Islam hadn't launched a jihad against the surrounding areas and taken them?
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what about the war between Iraq and Iran? islamic-islamic war.....get it ?
Muslims like to fight amongst themselves when there are few infidels around to kill. Have been for 1400 years.
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Old 02-01-2007, 09:25 AM   #14
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How unknowledgeable. Would the crusades have had to occur if Islam hadn't launched a jihad against the surrounding areas and taken them?
HAHAHA

"I've heard of history..its a food isn't it?"

Hey man u obviously know nothing about that right? I've read several books about the crusades but the point is that the pope and some Europeian kings wanted to get the 'holy land'...u know why? Beacuse it was the 'holy land' !!!

Jerusalem for example was (is) the holy city of three religions(u know which three?) BEFORE the crusades all of them were free to choose. AFTER being occupied by the crusaders only one left.The other two were banned.(technicly murdered them) get the point?

It was long time ago and has nothin to do with nowadays...just to be exact ;)
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Old 02-01-2007, 09:28 AM   #15
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Muslims like to fight amongst themselves when there are few infidels around to kill. Have been for 1400 years.
Ah you must be a muslim expert! Do you breed some on the redneck-farm?

okay so the rule is: "when a muslim cant see an infidel to kill, kills a muslim. BUT if there are no muslims around, kills himself." Do I lget it? hahahahaa
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I was saying modern extremism goes for any religion, but I suppose modern Islam breeds the most extremism right now. Then again, the west is the most "free" and the most "morally loose" it's ever been in history. Maybe the two are related is all I'm saying.
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HAHAHA

"I've heard of history..its a food isn't it?"

Hey man u obviously know nothing about that right? I've read several books about the crusades but the point is that the pope and some Europeian kings wanted to get the 'holy land'...u know why? Beacuse it was the 'holy land' !!!

Jerusalem for example was (is) the holy city of three religions(u know which three?) BEFORE the crusades all of them were free to choose. AFTER being occupied by the crusaders only one left.The other two were banned.(technicly murdered them) get the point?

It was long time ago and has nothin to do with nowadays...just to be exact ;)
So..... you read books but you do not understand them.
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Ah you must be a muslim expert! Do you breed some on the redneck-farm?

okay so the rule is: "when a muslim cant see an infidel to kill, kills a muslim. BUT if there are no muslims around, kills himself." Do I lget it? hahahahaa
You're not the brightest button in the box and you like to keep owning yourself.

Take a look at the world. The 'Islamic world' to be more exact. The answer lies there. When opportunities for jihad are few and far between, Sunnis like nothing better to kill Ahmadiya and Shia and vice versa and so on. Since the penalty for apostacy (you'll need to look that word up) in Islam is death, any Muslim who is not deemed sufficiently Muslim is fair game.
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