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gothweb · 08-22-2002, 09:38 AM

Last weekend, I was shooting a new model. From the sample pics she sent, and our talk, I wasn't really sure how well she would do in front of the camera. Still, a 19 year old real goth, total first-time amateur, I had to give it a shot. Good thing I did, she's amazing...

Here are some pics from her very casual first photo set... I like the later stuff better by far, but I have these ready.

Want to see more?

Pipecrew · 08-22-2002, 09:39 AM

Nice Job Charly

gothweb · 08-22-2002, 09:39 AM

I think you're confusing me with some other content provider who likes to post about his stuff.... Oh, and Shadow Jen is currently not available in licensed content. She may never be, we may go for an exclusive deal instead.

AaronM · 08-22-2002, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
Nice Job Charly

LMFAO!

That one ALMOST went over my head. Very funny.

greentea · 08-22-2002, 09:40 AM

Let's see more of this goth bitch

Sly_RJ · 08-22-2002, 09:40 AM

Looking through your stuff, we have a totally different image of what "goth" is.

But yeh, she's hot.

quiet · 08-22-2002, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
Nice Job Charly

hehe

kosmic · 08-22-2002, 09:41 AM

She's a hottie.

SykkBoy · 08-22-2002, 09:42 AM

This is so much more refreshing than charly spam in that, I like most of GW's stuff...............

AaronM · 08-22-2002, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

hehe

Well, that's 2 of us that get it.

AaronM · 08-22-2002, 09:43 AM

Make that 3. Thanks Sykk.

HomeGrown · 08-22-2002, 09:45 AM

I don't get the Charly thing. Nice girl GW, very hot.

Fletch XXX · 08-22-2002, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Looking through your stuff, we have a totally different image of what "goth" is.

But yeh, she's hot.

American goth is bastardized.

MTV goth isnt goth.

All the goth girls I know in New Orleans are way different than the goth girls here in Southern California.

gothweb · 08-22-2002, 09:48 AM

Also, my spam has 25% less fat than the leading brand.

Sly, you mention that we have different views on what is goth... That comes from me spending the last six years as part of the gothic subculture, and the take on it all that grew out of that. Goth is much broader than most people, even most self-proclaimed "goths", like to admit.

There are all sorts of people who fit into the goth community, and have a look that is somewhat goth. I don't want to say you have to have black and purple hair, or a sisters of mercy t-shirt, to be goth. That has extended to my photography... It is goth if it is dark or morbid, if it is creative and unique, as long as there is a conceptual connection. Maybe I shouldn't market my stuff as "goth", but it's as good a label as any.

Shadow Jen is definitely one of the most real goths I have shot. This set is pretty "light", but that is what we were going for. Even before shooting, she was dressed much more gothy than some of the shoots I do. She came to my shoot a day after getting back from a goth music festival in germany... you get the idea.

Anyhow, when I have pics from some of the other sets, I will share them. For now, this set is all I have had time to prep... Here are the remaining samples from this set.

http://www.gothicamateur.com/shadow-jen/

DrGuile · 08-22-2002, 09:49 AM

hard to be goth when you're naked ;p

SykkBoy · 08-22-2002, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
Make that 3. Thanks Sykk.

...now if only Aaron would shoot more freaky chicks ;)

how's the Vegas move coming...or is it still?

mrthumbs · 08-22-2002, 09:51 AM

Honest opinion: great stuff.. just like your previous set.

I always wondered how a pussy like you was able
to shoot these cuties.

Well......

..... i finally figured it out:

Gothweb, you are gay.

Sly_RJ · 08-22-2002, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

American goth is bastardized.

MTV goth isnt goth.

All the goth girls I know in New Orleans are way different than the goth girls here in Southern California.

Don't watch MTV. Have no idea what goth is like in Southern California. Just remember the "goth" girls from back home. This isn't them...

AaronM · 08-22-2002, 09:51 AM

BTW...She is cute.

Send her to me....I am sure I can find some work for her.

richard · 08-22-2002, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
Nice Job Charly

nice.

gothweb · 08-22-2002, 09:54 AM

Aaron,

At this point, she is an amateur, modelling for fun, doing very softcore stuff. She isn't interested in more modelling, as far as I can tell. I am planning to offer not to even license her pics. Normally I wouldn't make an offer like that, even in exchange for her exclusively working with me, but she's a great girl and I am happy to do it to keep her happy with working with us.

Ian

dacash · 08-22-2002, 09:56 AM

Who do you tihnk we are? You give us a link to see 2 more pics and if we want to see more we have to sign up?

GFY

Fletch XXX · 08-22-2002, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Don't watch MTV. Have no idea what goth is liked in Southern California. Just remember the "goth" girls from back home. This isn't them...

I didnt say you did.

I was referring to the kids who do. And get their idea of what Gothic would be.

Ive had plenty of psycho goth girlfriends.

PLENTY.

New Orleans is full of some of the wildest drunk goth girls. I had a goth girl let me pee on her once at a Skinny Puppy record release party YEARS back.

;)

gothweb · 08-22-2002, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dacash
Who do you tihnk we are? You give us a link to see 2 more pics and if we want to see more we have to sign up?

GFY

Gee, sorry. In the future, I promise I will create special pages just for assholes like you. In the meantime, you are stuck with me linking to pages I already have ready from my site tour.

RATBOY · 08-22-2002, 10:00 AM

Your amazing eye for this kind of thing is why I am plugging your program dude. Your stuff has always ruled

HomeGrown · 08-22-2002, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dacash
Who do you tihnk we are? You give us a link to see 2 more pics and if we want to see more we have to sign up?

GFY

Um, I am pretty sure he meant posting them on this forum like he did those 2.

bhutocracy · 08-22-2002, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
Nice Job Charly

yeah but these girls rock..

they aren't hardcore goth, but most definately identifiable as goth - a sort of lite romantic version but still fucking neato.
of course you can tell a goth when they're naked.. look for the body that hasn't seen sunlight since it was 16.
i've been going on for ages about how i want to shoot some of the abundant goths in brisbane.. must get off my ass to do that...

btw GW, i like that set of yours of the girl with the fan and the white netted slip with the tassels.. she was too pale for most of the guys here.. but that and the tease was awesome.. weird how softcore can be more arousing.. well.. in the beginning, you still want to end up seeing pink..

gothweb · 08-22-2002, 10:10 AM

I have to admit, what I call "goth" in my content is more a matter of "Ian likes it" than any other definition. Also, not all of my shoots are particularly goth, as I like to try different things. Still, I think there is a conceptual continuity to what I do. I know that plenty of real goths like our sites, as do mainstream people fascinated by goth stuff.

As for the softcore aspect... I think the tease is great. If you keep showing more and more, you never win... Look at all the extreme hardcore shit out there. I can't compete with that, and I don't want to. So I show sexy photos of beautiful girls. Sometimes there is pink, sometimes not.

I do what the models are comfortable with, and in return I get some amazing models who don't work with anyone else, or at least not many photographers. Works for me, I don't want to be "that scummy photographer guy".

And yeah, you can tell a goth when she's naked. If you think its only about clothes, you're missing something. There is a style, there is an attitude, there is a community, and there is a lot more. Not all of it disappears when the girl is naked... Shadow Jen is as gothy naked as she is clothed, the same with Undine.

mrthumbs · 08-22-2002, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
Aaron,

...exclusively working with me, but she's a great girl and I am happy to do it to keep her happy with working with us.

Ian

Why are you 'signing' your message with your name?

Dont confuse "ass kissing emails" with message board postings man.. makes you look real silly man.

And you seem to mix up 'i' and 'us' several times..

Fletch XXX · 08-22-2002, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
I have to admit, what I call "goth" in my content is more a matter of "Ian likes it" than any other definition. Also, not all of my shoots are particularly goth, as I like to try different things. Still, I think there is a conceptual continuity to what I do. I know that plenty of real goths like our sites, as do mainstream people fascinated by goth stuff.

As for the softcore aspect... I think the tease is great. If you keep showing more and more, you never win... Look at all the extreme hardcore shit out there. I can't compete with that, and I don't want to. So I show sexy photos of beautiful girls. Sometimes there is pink, sometimes not.

I do what the models are comfortable with, and in return I get some amazing models who don't work with anyone else, or at least not many photographers. Works for me, I don't want to be "that scummy photographer guy".

And yeah, you can tell a goth when she's naked. If you think its only about clothes, you're missing something. There is a style, there is an attitude, there is a community, and there is a lot more. Not all of it disappears when the girl is naked... Shadow Jen is as gothy naked as she is clothed, the same with Undine.

true, but I know surfers no matter what want to see some pink unless its truly a SOFTCORE site, so make that known or youre setting yourself up for LOTS of chargebacks.

Just a thought dude. (experience)

quiet · 08-22-2002, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

true, but I know surfers no matter what want to see some pink unless its truly a SOFTCORE site, so make that known or youre setting yourself up for LOTS of chargebacks.

Just a thought dude. (experience)

agreed.

gothweb · 08-22-2002, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

true, but I know surfers no matter what want to see some pink unless its truly a SOFTCORE site, so make that known or youre setting yourself up for LOTS of chargebacks.

Just a thought dude. (experience)

We don't get chargebacks. They are very rare for us. We have a lot of satisfied members, who retain very well. I am not really worried that people are disappointed with the softcore nature of our sites. Some of the girls show pink, some do hardcore (solo)... and most don't. So far, no complaints from members.

Fletch XXX · 08-22-2002, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb

We don't get chargebacks. They are very rare for us. We have a lot of satisfied members, who retain very well. I am not really worried that people are disappointed with the softcore nature of our sites. Some of the girls show pink, some do hardcore (solo)... and most don't. So far, no complaints from members.

Then all is well.

Keep it up!

RATBOY · 08-22-2002, 10:21 AM

GW's sites have the most loyal subscribers of anyone I know, he about beats the hell out of Nina Knows Best in that respect. Is he spamming right now? Hell if I could take pics as good as he does I would be plastering them all over the place.

As for chargebacks GW does not promise hardcore. It is an occasional bonus to his members, and that keeps the chargebacks down.

3Xguru · 08-22-2002, 10:21 AM

She looks damn pritty!

gothweb · 08-22-2002, 10:22 AM

Heh. Thanks for your concern, though.

I don't want to start disappointing people... Most people who see how I post around here will guess that I don't like misleading advertising. I will definitely keep in mind the fact that our content is pretty softcore, as I go forward, so the sites accurately sell what we do.

For the most part, the market we are positioned in is happy with softcore... As we get more and more traffic from affiliates, we will need to be more clear.

Oh, and MrThumbs... Don't try too hard, okay? I don't like you, and I know you don't like me, but seriously, you pick on some pretty small details in your quest to try to zing me. "Us" is me and Vail, who run our sites, or Pleiades Web Press, the company that owns them. "I" is me, Ian X. Sometimes I sign my posts, when I am writing more with the tone of a letter. Usually, for bullshit, I don't.

cherrylula · 08-22-2002, 10:25 AM

The only reason a softcore site would have problems with chargebacks is if the tour advertises or implies that there is hardcore pussy inside, and join to discover there is none.

In my experience member retention is higher with softcore and chargebacks are low. Of course if you don't promote it right then you will screw up and lose money.

I think gothweb is on the right track.

booker · 08-22-2002, 10:26 AM

gothweb..

Do you do work with some of the other gothic sites, like devildolls or cemetary girls or....hmm.. the names escape me, but there are some decent ones out there..

..and you're right, you don't need to fit the "mold" to be "goth," from what I've seen, heard, read, it is a conceptual thing, it is an outlook and a perspective moreso than just a style.

gothweb · 08-22-2002, 10:33 AM

I work with some other goth sites. Some of my best friends run goth sites... http://www.sexraven.com and http://www.darkplay.net are good examples. I am in a coalition that includes a number of prestegious goth sites, and is still growing. I also work with some of the bigger sites, such as trading galleries with Gothic Sluts and Barely Evil.

mrthumbs · 08-22-2002, 10:46 AM

"Oh, and MrThumbs... Don't try too hard, okay? I don't like you, and I know you don't like me, but seriously, you pick on some pretty small details in your quest to try to zing me. "

Just doing the same to you as you do to me man.. bashing
into YOUR threads making stupid comments that are totally off topic and useless.

And who says i dont like you? I like pussies and did i ever make
one negative remark about your work? That's awesome shit
and i said that a few times without shitty comments. You just
couldnt stop your attempts gaining some easy credits.

Anyway

Mr Thumbs

booker · 08-22-2002, 10:47 AM

it's a catfight!

AaronM · 08-22-2002, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
Aaron,

At this point, she is an amateur, modelling for fun, doing very softcore stuff.

Souinds like most of the girls that I shoot.

BTW... I was kidding about sending her my way. ;)

She is cute though.

grumpy · 08-22-2002, 10:50 AM

looks like a spam to me. Like the charly part

AaronM · 08-22-2002, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by grumpy
looks like a spam to me. Like the charly part

If only I was not on probation here....ah, the fun I could be having.

gothweb · 08-22-2002, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM

Souinds like most of the girls that I shoot.

BTW... I was kidding about sending her my way. ;)

She is cute though.

Heh. I figured... Just realized I hadn't explained the exclusivity thing clearly, seemed like an opportunity. By the way, you've got some great girls on your site... I saw pics of Chastity on a gallery a while back and wondered where she came from. Nice stuff.

AaronM · 08-22-2002, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb

Heh. I figured... Just realized I hadn't explained the exclusivity thing clearly, seemed like an opportunity. By the way, you've got some great girls on your site... I saw pics of Chastity on a gallery a while back and wondered where she came from. Nice stuff.

Thanks. She is a great model to work with.

gothweb · 08-22-2002, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs
Just doing the same to you as you do to me man.. bashing
into YOUR threads making stupid comments that are totally off topic and useless.

And who says i dont like you? I like pussies and did i ever make
one negative remark about your work? That's awesome shit
and i said that a few times without shitty comments. You just
couldnt stop your attempts gaining some easy credits.

You've got a point. You have always been nice about my photos when I post them. I guess we can't always agree, no surprise if we don't.

08-22-2002, 09:38 AM	#1
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Girls like this are why I love my job... Last weekend, I was shooting a new model. From the sample pics she sent, and our talk, I wasn't really sure how well she would do in front of the camera. Still, a 19 year old real goth, total first-time amateur, I had to give it a shot. Good thing I did, she's amazing... Here are some pics from her very casual first photo set... I like the later stuff better by far, but I have these ready. Want to see more? __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

08-22-2002, 09:39 AM	#3
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I think you're confusing me with some other content provider who likes to post about his stuff.... Oh, and Shadow Jen is currently not available in licensed content. She may never be, we may go for an exclusive deal instead. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

08-22-2002, 09:40 AM	#5
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08-22-2002, 09:41 AM	#8
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08-22-2002, 09:39 AM	#2
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Nice Job Charly

08-22-2002, 09:42 AM	#9
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08-22-2002, 09:43 AM	#11
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08-22-2002, 09:45 AM	#12
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08-22-2002, 09:48 AM	#14
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Also, my spam has 25% less fat than the leading brand. Sly, you mention that we have different views on what is goth... That comes from me spending the last six years as part of the gothic subculture, and the take on it all that grew out of that. Goth is much broader than most people, even most self-proclaimed "goths", like to admit. There are all sorts of people who fit into the goth community, and have a look that is somewhat goth. I don't want to say you have to have black and purple hair, or a sisters of mercy t-shirt, to be goth. That has extended to my photography... It is goth if it is dark or morbid, if it is creative and unique, as long as there is a conceptual connection. Maybe I shouldn't market my stuff as "goth", but it's as good a label as any. Shadow Jen is definitely one of the most real goths I have shot. This set is pretty "light", but that is what we were going for. Even before shooting, she was dressed much more gothy than some of the shoots I do. She came to my shoot a day after getting back from a goth music festival in germany... you get the idea. Anyhow, when I have pics from some of the other sets, I will share them. For now, this set is all I have had time to prep... Here are the remaining samples from this set. http://www.gothicamateur.com/shadow-jen/ __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

08-22-2002, 09:49 AM	#15
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08-22-2002, 09:51 AM	#17
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	Honest opinion: great stuff.. just like your previous set. I always wondered how a pussy like you was able to shoot these cuties. Well...... ..... i finally figured it out: Gothweb, you are gay.

08-22-2002, 09:51 AM	#19
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	BTW...She is cute. Send her to me....I am sure I can find some work for her.

08-22-2002, 09:54 AM	#21
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Aaron, At this point, she is an amateur, modelling for fun, doing very softcore stuff. She isn't interested in more modelling, as far as I can tell. I am planning to offer not to even license her pics. Normally I wouldn't make an offer like that, even in exchange for her exclusively working with me, but she's a great girl and I am happy to do it to keep her happy with working with us. Ian __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

08-22-2002, 09:56 AM	#22
dacash Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: some where in a basement Posts: 609	Who do you tihnk we are? You give us a link to see 2 more pics and if we want to see more we have to sign up? GFY __________________ ____________ Marc

08-22-2002, 10:00 AM	#25
RATBOY Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,592	Your amazing eye for this kind of thing is why I am plugging your program dude. Your stuff has always ruled

08-22-2002, 10:10 AM	#28
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I have to admit, what I call "goth" in my content is more a matter of "Ian likes it" than any other definition. Also, not all of my shoots are particularly goth, as I like to try different things. Still, I think there is a conceptual continuity to what I do. I know that plenty of real goths like our sites, as do mainstream people fascinated by goth stuff. As for the softcore aspect... I think the tease is great. If you keep showing more and more, you never win... Look at all the extreme hardcore shit out there. I can't compete with that, and I don't want to. So I show sexy photos of beautiful girls. Sometimes there is pink, sometimes not. I do what the models are comfortable with, and in return I get some amazing models who don't work with anyone else, or at least not many photographers. Works for me, I don't want to be "that scummy photographer guy". And yeah, you can tell a goth when she's naked. If you think its only about clothes, you're missing something. There is a style, there is an attitude, there is a community, and there is a lot more. Not all of it disappears when the girl is naked... Shadow Jen is as gothy naked as she is clothed, the same with Undine. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

08-22-2002, 10:21 AM	#34
RATBOY Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,592	GW's sites have the most loyal subscribers of anyone I know, he about beats the hell out of Nina Knows Best in that respect. Is he spamming right now? Hell if I could take pics as good as he does I would be plastering them all over the place. As for chargebacks GW does not promise hardcore. It is an occasional bonus to his members, and that keeps the chargebacks down.

08-22-2002, 10:21 AM	#35
3Xguru Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Iasi Posts: 1,281	She looks damn pritty! __________________ -=Free Webmaster Tools=-

08-22-2002, 10:22 AM	#36
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Heh. Thanks for your concern, though. I don't want to start disappointing people... Most people who see how I post around here will guess that I don't like misleading advertising. I will definitely keep in mind the fact that our content is pretty softcore, as I go forward, so the sites accurately sell what we do. For the most part, the market we are positioned in is happy with softcore... As we get more and more traffic from affiliates, we will need to be more clear. Oh, and MrThumbs... Don't try too hard, okay? I don't like you, and I know you don't like me, but seriously, you pick on some pretty small details in your quest to try to zing me. "Us" is me and Vail, who run our sites, or Pleiades Web Press, the company that owns them. "I" is me, Ian X. Sometimes I sign my posts, when I am writing more with the tone of a letter. Usually, for bullshit, I don't. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

08-22-2002, 10:25 AM	#37
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	The only reason a softcore site would have problems with chargebacks is if the tour advertises or implies that there is hardcore pussy inside, and join to discover there is none. In my experience member retention is higher with softcore and chargebacks are low. Of course if you don't promote it right then you will screw up and lose money. I think gothweb is on the right track.

08-22-2002, 10:26 AM	#38
booker Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,370	gothweb.. Do you do work with some of the other gothic sites, like devildolls or cemetary girls or....hmm.. the names escape me, but there are some decent ones out there.. ..and you're right, you don't need to fit the "mold" to be "goth," from what I've seen, heard, read, it is a conceptual thing, it is an outlook and a perspective moreso than just a style. __________________ Xanadu024 (aim) or 286785389 (icq) "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard."

08-22-2002, 10:33 AM	#39
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I work with some other goth sites. Some of my best friends run goth sites... http://www.sexraven.com and http://www.darkplay.net are good examples. I am in a coalition that includes a number of prestegious goth sites, and is still growing. I also work with some of the bigger sites, such as trading galleries with Gothic Sluts and Barely Evil. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

08-22-2002, 10:46 AM	#40
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	"Oh, and MrThumbs... Don't try too hard, okay? I don't like you, and I know you don't like me, but seriously, you pick on some pretty small details in your quest to try to zing me. " Just doing the same to you as you do to me man.. bashing into YOUR threads making stupid comments that are totally off topic and useless. And who says i dont like you? I like pussies and did i ever make one negative remark about your work? That's awesome shit and i said that a few times without shitty comments. You just couldnt stop your attempts gaining some easy credits. Anyway Mr Thumbs

08-22-2002, 10:47 AM	#41
booker Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,370	it's a catfight! __________________ Xanadu024 (aim) or 286785389 (icq) "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard."

08-22-2002, 10:50 AM	#43
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