Apple Mac Pro Quad Xeon with Win XP - anyone tried this? - GoFuckYourself.com

MaDalton · 01-30-2007, 01:30 PM

i would be interested in the speed of the system. looks like decent hardware for that price, but some programs i need - like Cleaner XL - do not run on mac os

Kard63 · 01-30-2007, 01:33 PM

I have not tried that, but I have a quadcore pc and it is the shit. I installed XP in 6 minutes.

Jim_Gunn · 01-30-2007, 01:48 PM

MaDalton, I still use Cleaner XL as my main Windows encoding app, previously with standard def digital video and now with hi-def footage from my Sony FX-1. I find that even with my Dell 9300 dual core Win XP pc that encoding wmv files from my hi-def footage edited with Premiere Pro and the (Cineform codec) AVIs takes a LONG time. Especially if I am adding a .png watermark to the files as they are output, usually in multiple bitrates. It took almost twelve hours to turn a 35 minute edited Cineform AVI video into a full size (1440 x 1080 pixel frame) wmv with watermark at a 4300 Kb bitrate.

Cleanner XL is a powerful but clunky program, but I think I have learned to get the most out of it. I'd be happy to compare experiences with Cleaner XL if you like.

MaDalton · 01-30-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pornopete

Parellels and Bootcamp should allow you to run windows on a mac.

And yes those new macs look sweet.

Also it seems cleaner is available for osx (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet...&siteID=123112)

yeah, but it's the old 6.5 version that was on Windows replaced by Cleaner XL 1.5 already 2 years ago. they're not really busy doing new versions, but i haven't found a better program yet (and i tried a lot)

MaDalton · 01-30-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

MaDalton, I still use Cleaner XL as my main Windows encoding app, previously with standard def digital video and now with hi-def footage from my Sony FX-1. I find that even with my Dell 9300 dual core Win XP pc that encoding wmv files from my hi-def footage edited with Premiere Pro and the (Cineform codec) AVIs takes a LONG time. Especially if I am adding a .png watermark to the files as they are output, usually in multiple bitrates. It took almost twelve hours to turn a 35 minute edited Cineform AVI video into a full size (1440 x 1080 pixel frame) wmv with watermark at a 4300 Kb bitrate.

Cleanner XL is a powerful but clunky program, but I think I have learned to get the most out of it. I'd be happy to compare experiences with Cleaner XL if you like.

wow - that's a long time...

i'm currently running a batch job (since 4 or 5 days now) doing WMVs at 1800 kbit/s with a png watermark with MPEG files at 8000 kbit/s as source files - and it takes about 30-45 minutes for a 10-15 min. clip (inlcuding some filters like contrast and saturation)

on an AMD 64 X2 4400 system with 4 gb ram.

not too bad - i think - but i would happily spend some money to speed that up a little bit.

i'm just interested if the Mac - running in dual boot with Win XP - is still that friggin fast like it is with Mac OSX

Jim_Gunn · 01-30-2007, 02:10 PM

MaDalton, same for me, I haven't found anything better for encoding yet. I haven't even upgraded to Cleaner XL 1.5 yet, mine is just Cleaner XL for Windows from a few years ago. Discreet is hardly supporting the app anyway other than that 1.5 version that they quietly released a while ago. But it does the trick for batching to multiple formats (wmv, quicktime, and real, or mpeg-1) and bitrates and adding those watermarks at the encoding process.

There is a Windows app named Procoder(ver. 2.0 I think) that I have read some reviews of. I haven't tried it but I wonder if it is any faster for encoding on my same dual core pc.

poe · 01-30-2007, 02:20 PM

Final Cut Pro comes with Compressor, which is a pretty damn good video encoder.

chupacabra · 01-30-2007, 02:31 PM

i have a MacPro w/ dual 2.66GHz xeons and 8GB FB memory, installed the Radeon X1600 into it myself after buying the machine at an apple store at launch. i dual boot it from OSX into WinXP all the time using Boot Camp and it works fine, fastest X86 machine i have ever owned. buy one, they rock..

MaDalton · 01-30-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

MaDalton, same for me, I haven't found anything better for encoding yet. I haven't even upgraded to Cleaner XL 1.5 yet, mine is just Cleaner XL for Windows from a few years ago. Discreet is hardly supporting the app anyway other than that 1.5 version that they quietly released a while ago. But it does the trick for batching to multiple formats (wmv, quicktime, and real, or mpeg-1) and bitrates and adding those watermarks at the encoding process.

There is a Windows app named Procoder(ver. 2.0 I think) that I have read some reviews of. I haven't tried it but I wonder if it is any faster for encoding on my same dual core pc.

i have tried Procoder - it made me nearly cry. i was 10 sec. away from disintegrating my PC with a big axe

don't buy it - never

drama · 01-30-2007, 02:35 PM

Cleaner XL doesnt use SMP on any of the QT generated formats. Procoder is where its at.

Jim_Gunn · 01-30-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i have tried Procoder - it made me nearly cry. i was 10 sec. away from disintegrating my PC with a big axe

don't buy it - never

That's how I felt when I first got Cleaner XL, but I am used to it's clunky interface now.

pornguy · 01-30-2007, 02:39 PM

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madawgz · 01-30-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by poe

Final Cut Pro comes with Compressor, which is a pretty damn good video encoder.

yeah it is

MaDalton · 01-30-2007, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poe

Final Cut Pro comes with Compressor, which is a pretty damn good video encoder.

does it do batch jobs and wmv encoding?

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Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	MaDalton, I still use Cleaner XL as my main Windows encoding app, previously with standard def digital video and now with hi-def footage from my Sony FX-1. I find that even with my Dell 9300 dual core Win XP pc that encoding wmv files from my hi-def footage edited with Premiere Pro and the (Cineform codec) AVIs takes a LONG time. Especially if I am adding a .png watermark to the files as they are output, usually in multiple bitrates. It took almost twelve hours to turn a 35 minute edited Cineform AVI video into a full size (1440 x 1080 pixel frame) wmv with watermark at a 4300 Kb bitrate. Cleanner XL is a powerful but clunky program, but I think I have learned to get the most out of it. I'd be happy to compare experiences with Cleaner XL if you like. Last edited by Jim_Gunn; 01-30-2007 at 01:49 PM..

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Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	MaDalton, same for me, I haven't found anything better for encoding yet. I haven't even upgraded to Cleaner XL 1.5 yet, mine is just Cleaner XL for Windows from a few years ago. Discreet is hardly supporting the app anyway other than that 1.5 version that they quietly released a while ago. But it does the trick for batching to multiple formats (wmv, quicktime, and real, or mpeg-1) and bitrates and adding those watermarks at the encoding process. There is a Windows app named Procoder(ver. 2.0 I think) that I have read some reviews of. I haven't tried it but I wonder if it is any faster for encoding on my same dual core pc.

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