NATS and HoDough made me MORE DOUGH then Hush Money... - GoFuckYourself.com

V_RocKs · 01-30-2007, 12:06 AM

Ho Dough... 1:674
Hush Money... 1:2495

Hmm... so why did we move from NATS???

Nookster · 01-30-2007, 12:07 AM

That's a good question.

Brujah · 01-30-2007, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Ho Dough... 1:674
Hush Money... 1:2495

Hmm... so why did we move from NATS???

You're smarter than that. Ratio's can vary for a million reasons.

How much have you earned in 1 month with HoDough ?
How much will you have earned in 1 month with HushMoney ?

Ignore the ratio's.

V_RocKs · 01-30-2007, 12:28 AM

Can't say with Hush Money since it has been 2 1/2 days or something?

DateDoc · 01-30-2007, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

You're smarter than that. Ratio's can vary for a million reasons.

How much have you earned in 1 month with HoDough ?
How much will you have earned in 1 month with HushMoney ?

Ignore the ratio's.

I agree, ppl bitch about their daily stats all the time when they fail to see you have to look way beyound that. 1 bad day does not mean it is a bad week or a bad month.

TheDoc · 01-30-2007, 01:12 AM

Are the sites new? New sites always convert better.

V_RocKs · 01-31-2007, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterPorn

I agree, ppl bitch about their daily stats all the time when they fail to see you have to look way beyound that. 1 bad day does not mean it is a bad week or a bad month.

Yeah, you sure pegged me man... I am just a fucktard shithead making no money and wondering when the bigtime is gonna come my way..

I guess I will go back to my hut and cry my little eyes out over this one.

Chio · 01-31-2007, 01:18 AM

Ratios tend to be pretty consistent for me, so if I notice a big discrepancy like that it's cause for alarm and investigation.

Seeing as nothing has changed aside from moving away from nats that would be what I would question first.

Chio · 01-31-2007, 01:24 AM

Case in point: One sponsor.

December 103 6,593 1:64 $3,976.26 $0.60 $0.00 $3,976.26
November 132 9,030 1:68 $5,515.00 $0.61 $0.00 $5,515.00
October 202 11,621 1:57 $7,470.00 $0.64 $0.00 $7,470.00
September 126 9,489 1:75 $5,130.00 $0.54 $0.00 $5,130.00
August 95 6,627 1:69 $3,675.00 $0.55 $0.00 $3,675.00

So if my ratio were to all of a sudden go to 1:2000 or so that would be very strange indeed.

pr0 · 01-31-2007, 01:28 AM

I never see large variations in my statistics, with the exception of major holidays, or breaking news days on CNN, like the invasion of Iraq.

So when i see a large fluctuation i know one of a few things.....It's me getting fucked over, or its the credit processors turning up the scrub, or some other processing issue/join page issue.

I've been lucky enough to not "get fucked" for several years, by only doing business with people whom I have the highest respect.

D · 01-31-2007, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Ho Dough... 1:674
Hush Money... 1:2495

Hmm... so why did we move from NATS???

We moved from NATs because we've been growing like crazy for the last 8 months... and to be in a spot to better help our affiliates with tools, info, features and benefits tomorrow... as well as being able to set special payout structures awards programs and such, we decided that the best route would be to start from the ground up... and so we did.

NATS is a great program - but our size and direction of our business model led us to a place where we needed a lot of customization for tools, features, and such.

As has been mentioned before, due to the insane amount of traffic we've been receiving, we've had sparratic slow-downs for the last couple of days that might have affected sales.

We've pegged the problem as being caused by an overtaxing of our database and have modified our network to deal with 100 times the amount of traffic now.... so we're hopefully (/knock on wood) good to go.

I do feel ya, man... but I assure you, these are all just brief growing pains as we settle into the new system. You've been with us before all this, so you know the people you're dealing with, and you know the product we produce.... and you know what stats it normally generates.

It's only going to get better from here.

If you have any questions, comments, concerns, or whatever... you can always hit me up on ICQ - or direct an email my way. I'd be happy to give your stats a more critical eye, or whatever else you might need.

Chio · 01-31-2007, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D

We moved from NATs...............else you might need.

Sounds logical.

Nookster · 01-31-2007, 01:51 AM

This deserves to be bumped.

V_RocKs · 01-31-2007, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D

We moved from NATs because we've been growing like crazy for the last 8 months... and to be in a spot to better help our affiliates with tools, info, features and benefits tomorrow... as well as being able to set special payout structures awards programs and such, we decided that the best route would be to start from the ground up... and so we did.

NATS is a great program - but our size and direction of our business model led us to a place where we needed a lot of customization for tools, features, and such.

As has been mentioned before, due to the insane amount of traffic we've been receiving, we've had sparratic slow-downs for the last couple of days that might have affected sales.

We've pegged the problem as being caused by an overtaxing of our database and have modified our network to deal with 100 times the amount of traffic now.... so we're hopefully (/knock on wood) good to go.

I do feel ya, man... but I assure you, these are all just brief growing pains as we settle into the new system. You've been with us before all this, so you know the people you're dealing with, and you know the product we produce.... and you know what stats it normally generates.

It's only going to get better from here.

If you have any questions, comments, concerns, or whatever... you can always hit me up on ICQ - or direct an email my way. I'd be happy to give your stats a more critical eye, or whatever else you might need.

I appreciate your comments and they sound legit enough. Things have gotten better since yesterday for me. I just thought it odd especially when the stats from the previous day kept disappearing on and off... So it made me wonder what the fuck was happening...

Probably had to do with admins figuring past days sales can be taken off line when the load is high since thousands of Stats Remotes hitting the stats can be taxing... especially when it loads a new program and grabs days to months worth of data (or tries to anyway).

Just about the only thing that annoys me with nats is that most CCBILL sponsors that had awesome POTD tools and such lose them when they make the NATS switch over... Why doesn't NATS have a POTD module when the owner runs a teen program that would benefit from it?

Maybe I need to make another thread...

To the rest of you... V_RocKs is officially liking his ratio now.... the drama is over and D seems to be a good duy... even though we never shook hands at an Internext!

Cyber Fucker · 01-31-2007, 05:34 AM

hmm... you need to fix your FHGs picker cuz I can't add more FHGs to my tgp ..or should I still use the old system?

TheSenator · 01-31-2007, 06:02 AM

bummer.... NO NATS....

I hate it when affiliates change over to the in-house tracking system.

Ray@TastyDollars · 01-31-2007, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Just about the only thing that annoys me with nats is that most CCBILL sponsors that had awesome POTD tools and such lose them when they make the NATS switch over... Why doesn't NATS have a POTD module when the owner runs a teen program that would benefit from it?

All NATS sponsors need to do do is hire a good programmer and have a custom POTD script built and added to their nats install. We did, it took the guy one day to build and it cost us under $200. Same is true for RSS feeds or any other tools one may need.

Ray

tranza · 01-31-2007, 06:40 AM

Ratios are very consistent for me too. But over a period of time (say, a month). 2 days is just not enough to judge.

bu((aneer · 01-31-2007, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Ratios are very consistent for me too. But over a period of time (say, a month). 2 days is just not enough to judge.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=629636

V_RocKs · 01-31-2007, 11:42 PM

Gallery Problem

Ooops... someone put http://http:// in the template...

Kard63 · 02-01-2007, 12:00 AM

You said 'then' instead of 'than'.... not very convincing.

Cyber Fucker · 02-02-2007, 04:48 AM

strange thing

yesterday I have send more than 100 uniques to Hushmoney via houdough fhgs and it was counted in my hushmoney stats today I see in my stats
2007-02-01 0 (0) $0.00 (0) $0.00 (0) -$0.00 $0.00 $
What happened with yesterday stats ?

and old program doesn't count clicks too ?

D · 02-02-2007, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbwebmaster

strange thing

yesterday I have send more than 100 uniques to Hushmoney via houdough fhgs and it was counted in my hushmoney stats today I see in my stats
2007-02-01 0 (0) $0.00 (0) $0.00 (0) -$0.00 $0.00 $
What happened with yesterday stats ?

and old program doesn't count clicks too ?

Insofar as I know, everything is currently good to go on our end.

Feel free to hit me up in ICQ or email with your affiliate username, and I'll take a look at your situation.

We'll get it figured out.

Cheers.

Cyber Fucker · 02-02-2007, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D

Insofar as I know, everything is currently good to go on our end.

Feel free to hit me up in ICQ or email with your affiliate username, and I'll take a look at your situation.

We'll get it figured out.

Cheers.

Well, I wanted before but you weren't online, anyway, now they have reappeared and everything looks fine

MikeVega · 02-02-2007, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I appreciate your comments and they sound legit enough. Things have gotten better since yesterday for me. I just thought it odd especially when the stats from the previous day kept disappearing on and off... So it made me wonder what the fuck was happening...

Probably had to do with admins figuring past days sales can be taken off line when the load is high since thousands of Stats Remotes hitting the stats can be taxing... especially when it loads a new program and grabs days to months worth of data (or tries to anyway).

Just about the only thing that annoys me with nats is that most CCBILL sponsors that had awesome POTD tools and such lose them when they make the NATS switch over... Why doesn't NATS have a POTD module when the owner runs a teen program that would benefit from it?

Maybe I need to make another thread...

To the rest of you... V_RocKs is officially liking his ratio now.... the drama is over and D seems to be a good duy... even though we never shook hands at an Internext!

both my programs have POTD and Geo IP fan signs .. it's very easy to add that to Nats

teomaxxx · 02-04-2007, 03:11 AM

Are your sales already counted without problems?
Yesterday 1:29567 WTF?
I know there should be much more then one sale, thats not even possible.
Still not even possible to see stats by site or by reffer.
I wish they never went from NATS to their custom soft.

D · 02-04-2007, 05:06 PM

Hey, Tao...

be sure to hit me up first thing tomorrow, and we'll take a look at what you got.

D · 02-04-2007, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbwebmaster

Well, I wanted before but you weren't online, anyway, now they have reappeared and everything looks fine

Glad to hear things are good for you now.

I'm on ICQ 60+ hours a week... so if I'm not online at any particular time the next time you want feedback, just send along a message, and you're sure to get a response in the immediate future.

I check these forums regularly, too - but an ICQ will guarentee you a faster response just about every time... as a heads up.

Cheers.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-04-2007, 05:15 PM

D, i had like $40+ owed to me on nats, but i don't see it in the admin on hushmoney, do i forfeit that or something?

Oracle Porn · 02-04-2007, 05:27 PM

the move from nats to custom script on hodough/hushmoney was everything BUT smooth.....
so many sales probably lost.....it's not even funny.
also its a good idea imho to add the old tours as a 2nd tour of first one.... i dont like the new tours....

01-30-2007, 12:06 AM	#1
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	NATS and HoDough made me MORE DOUGH then Hush Money... Ho Dough... 1:674 Hush Money... 1:2495 Hmm... so why did we move from NATS???

01-30-2007, 12:07 AM	#2
Nookster Confirmed IT Professional Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 3,744	That's a good question. __________________ The Best Affiliate Software, Ever.

01-30-2007, 01:12 AM	#6
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01-31-2007, 01:18 AM	#8
Chio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ICQ: 39-183769 Posts: 8,002	Ratios tend to be pretty consistent for me, so if I notice a big discrepancy like that it's cause for alarm and investigation. Seeing as nothing has changed aside from moving away from nats that would be what I would question first. __________________ I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7! RIP Texas Dreams Are you a content producer or program owner sick of tube sites? Contact me on ICQ: 39-183769

01-31-2007, 01:24 AM	#9
Chio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ICQ: 39-183769 Posts: 8,002	Case in point: One sponsor. December 103 6,593 1:64 $3,976.26 $0.60 $0.00 $3,976.26 November 132 9,030 1:68 $5,515.00 $0.61 $0.00 $5,515.00 October 202 11,621 1:57 $7,470.00 $0.64 $0.00 $7,470.00 September 126 9,489 1:75 $5,130.00 $0.54 $0.00 $5,130.00 August 95 6,627 1:69 $3,675.00 $0.55 $0.00 $3,675.00 So if my ratio were to all of a sudden go to 1:2000 or so that would be very strange indeed. __________________ I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7! RIP Texas Dreams Are you a content producer or program owner sick of tube sites? Contact me on ICQ: 39-183769

01-30-2007, 12:28 AM	#4
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Can't say with Hush Money since it has been 2 1/2 days or something?

01-31-2007, 01:28 AM	#10
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	I never see large variations in my statistics, with the exception of major holidays, or breaking news days on CNN, like the invasion of Iraq. So when i see a large fluctuation i know one of a few things.....It's me getting fucked over, or its the credit processors turning up the scrub, or some other processing issue/join page issue. I've been lucky enough to not "get fucked" for several years, by only doing business with people whom I have the highest respect. __________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

01-31-2007, 01:51 AM	#13
Nookster Confirmed IT Professional Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 3,744	This deserves to be bumped. __________________ The Best Affiliate Software, Ever.

01-31-2007, 05:34 AM	#15
Cyber Fucker Hmm Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On an endless road around the world for rock and roll. Posts: 12,642	hmm... you need to fix your FHGs picker cuz I can't add more FHGs to my tgp ..or should I still use the old system? __________________

01-31-2007, 06:02 AM	#16
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,336	bummer.... NO NATS.... I hate it when affiliates change over to the in-house tracking system. __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

01-31-2007, 06:40 AM	#18
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Ratios are very consistent for me too. But over a period of time (say, a month). 2 days is just not enough to judge. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

01-31-2007, 11:42 PM	#20
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Gallery Problem Ooops... someone put http://http:// in the template...

02-01-2007, 12:00 AM	#21
Kard63 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 237 619 975 Posts: 8,944	You said 'then' instead of 'than'.... not very convincing. __________________

02-02-2007, 04:48 AM	#22
Cyber Fucker Hmm Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On an endless road around the world for rock and roll. Posts: 12,642	strange thing yesterday I have send more than 100 uniques to Hushmoney via houdough fhgs and it was counted in my hushmoney stats today I see in my stats 2007-02-01 0 (0) $0.00 (0) $0.00 (0) -$0.00 $0.00 $ What happened with yesterday stats ? and old program doesn't count clicks too ? __________________

02-04-2007, 03:11 AM	#26
teomaxxx Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,734	Are your sales already counted without problems? Yesterday 1:29567 WTF? I know there should be much more then one sale, thats not even possible. Still not even possible to see stats by site or by reffer. I wish they never went from NATS to their custom soft.

02-04-2007, 05:06 PM	#27
D Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Valley Posts: 7,412	Hey, Tao... be sure to hit me up first thing tomorrow, and we'll take a look at what you got. __________________ -D. ICQ: 202-96-31

02-04-2007, 05:15 PM	#29
Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE MOBILE PORN: IMOBILEPORN Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Tinseltown NL Posts: 16,502	D, i had like $40+ owed to me on nats, but i don't see it in the admin on hushmoney, do i forfeit that or something?

02-04-2007, 05:27 PM	#30
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	the move from nats to custom script on hodough/hushmoney was everything BUT smooth..... so many sales probably lost.....it's not even funny. also its a good idea imho to add the old tours as a 2nd tour of first one.... i dont like the new tours.... __________________