.XXX If I Gave Up The Names Of Who Is Behind The Scenes On This....

[MikeHawk]

Lets just say if i had the complete list of who is involved and has made all the future traffic deals and has been paid money for there votes....

What would you do?

1. Trade it for massive life time traffic?

2. Just post it up so everyone can see who is selling us out?

3. Sell it back to one of those on the list, biggest offer gets it?

4. Keep it to myself and be a good guy and not rock the boat...lol

[Screaming]

post it right here right now.

start the fire right at the camp that needs it most.

[nosey]

rock the boat, rock the boat baby

[Major (Tom)]

2

duke

[Tempest]

I'd leak the fucker out..

[Mr. Jim]

you know how you could play this card Mike

[seeric]

you know you won't do that.

on the other hand, it is probably a good idea that i don't know everyone involved. i am not as stable as you i might have a lip leak.

[Mark_E4A]

2. Just post it up so everyone can see who is selling us out?

This is deff the right option, I bet those people would change their mind in a hurry if they were outed as the sell outs.

Who the hell wants to do biz with a sell out..




Just out of curiosity what happens to all the traffic we all spent soooo much time building on our .com's ?

[Nikki_Licks]

Weren't you the onwe that had a list from last year? Might as well throw them on the fire now.
People could get a quick sense of who is who real fast

[dig420]

this is the kind of thread that never turns into anything.

NEVER.

[seeric]

mike is way to nice and professional to do that. his company is solid and reputable.

now, should i accidentally receive an anonymous email someway i won't take much convincing to be part of internet history.

[Trixxxia]

Originally Posted by Mark_E4A

Just out of curiosity what happens to all the traffic we all spent soooo much time building on our .com's ?

Most likely will be redirected to the .xxx - makes ya wonder who already bought (or has first rights to register the .xxx domains )

If it's the kids best interest at heart that they are looking out for **my eye** then they should be converting the present .com domains to .xxx - so the rightful owners get their domains again.

Any special deal domains, go to the obvious owner or owner with proof of lease/rent/borrow/guarantee contracts.

That would be too logical and wouldn't line enough legislator pockets though.

[MikeHawk]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

mike is way to nice and professional to do that. his company is solid and reputable.

now, should i accidentally receive an anonymous email someway i won't take much convincing to be part of internet history.

Thank you Mr DJ...

[After Shock Media]

Just spill it and watch the firefight.

You will be my hero.

[tony286]

I think Mike you would get more traffic to your program then you could imagine. What the big fish dont think about is a shit load of little fish equals a shit load of traffic.

[DateDoc]

Sell it to the highest bidder and then let a friend you accidentally told post it on GFY!

[tony286]

Another thought leak it to Mike south and he will post it on his site ,he doesnt care who he pisses off lol

[Z]

Mike, you and I both know that you're too much a class act to leak this. I won't spill the couple of people I know either.

BUT it will come out and when it does, they'll get what they've got coming. You and I will relaxing on a beach somewhere with a cigar in one hand and that smug grin that serves us so well.

[BubeeMike]

I am sure copyright and trademark laws will prevail? But I wonder on non trademarked domains. I wonder what the attorneys are saying?

[spunkmister]

why start a thread like this when you arn't gonna do anything anyway? If you have a list then either let others know whos on it or dont say aything...

[MikeHawk]

Ok, so here is what i am going to say...

I just got off the phone with Tom Hymes from Xbiz...he is very much still fighting against this .XXX...i know a way that this can be defeated even if this gets passed and for me that is even better, cause if they spent millions to get this thru not seeing it work would be even better in my mind.

There is a way to protect your trade mark, and taking the issue up with ICANN...not buying the domains and re directing to your .com is the way to defeat this issue...and at that point all they have is a new domain .XXX that nobody is part of.

Fear based sales is the key to there success a very well thought out plan is in the works at this time to put together owners of companies at small and large level to counter what is happening...

So what i say is this....if it means that much to them and they want to take charge of our business we all have worked so hard to create....dont let them, and its simple...like in any biz ..protect your "trademark" file on your own behalf with a lawyer, Jeffery Douglas is our lawyer and will file to protect us, we will stand back and not buy the Smashbucks mark, if any one trys to appear to be us we sue there brains out...simple.

At that time we dont "buy into "there idea of we or us or anybody "having to" buy this .XXX....simple.

So to recap...the only way this will become hurtful or become an issue is if we let it, that is by "buying into" or spending 1 penny to buy a domain we clearly dont need.

[Kimo]

please spill it, please

[Mr. Jim]

I do not know Jeffrey well Mike.... met a few times and he strikes me as the kind of guy who is telling you... "not much to worry about".

Again... Acacia.... they shmoozed with the big boys had a couple sign... thought the rest would be a lay down. This is deja vu... when it is time to circle the wagons I think we will and I would be shocked if JD thought there was a credible threat.

I could be wrong though...

[EBORG9]

Give me the list, I'll out them in a second and it wont cost me anything, most of my business is mainstream.

[Pleasurepays]

i seem to recall that lensman made a post about him supporting .xxx

am i wrong?

[tony286]

I think this is different than acacia lots of people see this as a second chance of being part of the gold rush.

[jayeff]

Originally Posted by MikeHawk

the only way this will become hurtful or become an issue is if we let it, that is by "buying into" or spending 1 penny to buy a domain we clearly dont need.

It isn't that simple. If you own joeblow.com and someone else registers joeblow.xxx, you can of course do nothing, hope that typein traffic loss is minimal and that .xxx is never made mandatory. What you would be very foolish to do is let joeblow.xxx operate for years, intending only to bring a trademark at a later date if circumstances change. Assuming the courts would ordinarily agree that you do indeed have a trademark claim, they still take a dim view of people who do not defend their trademarks vigorously and consistently.

My thoughts on reading your original post were that even if you had the list and made it public, I doubt there would be any surprises and at most, the impact might be a few days of drama on the boards.

It is to be expected that an industry only beginning to emerge from the "gold rush" stage, is still populated largely by short-term thinkers with limited ambition and imagination. Still it never ceases to amaze me that if you were to invite only those who have tried to make their voices heard about any of the serious issues which have affected this industry to date, it would be hard to fill a large conference room.

[mikeyddddd]

This is one time that #2 would give me wood.

[Tryme]

if you have the list and don't share it, you are just as bad as they are.

[Sambo]

3 and then 2.....

[TORTOISE]

yes if my memory serves me well..didnt I hear comments that Lensman had a big investment or interest in the .xxx last time this subject was discussed...

[SmokeyTheBear]

silence speaks volumes

[spacedog]

Post the list of names..

Everybody should know who the traitors are.

[Quickdraw]

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i seem to recall that lensman made a post about him supporting .xxx

am i wrong?

Nope-
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/476125-xxx-stop-censorship.html

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i seem to recall that lensman made a post about him supporting .xxx

am i wrong?

Anyone who supports this is tool.

It would be one thing if it would really help things, and come at a fair price, but we all know that is not going to happen. All it's going to do is allow kids to type "ANYTHING.XXX" and find porn. Total fucking sham.

[mikesouth]

tell ya what mike...maybe yer too nice a guy to out these people....I promise you I am not.

get that list to anyone you want, they get it to me and I promise you I will OUT EVERY SINGLE MOTHER FUCKER ON THAT LIST

I dont care who they are, if God herself is on that list I will post it right here.

[xclusive]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

tell ya what mike...maybe yer too nice a guy to out these people....I promise you I am not.

get that list to anyone you want, they get it to me and I promise you I will OUT EVERY SINGLE MOTHER FUCKER ON THAT LIST

I dont care who they are, if God herself is on that list I will post it right here.

As would I. To keep this a secret is to say a big fuck you to each and every one of us.

[SleazyDream]

why protect their privacy on an issue like this?

[seeric]

anonymous email to djairek [at] gmail dot com would pretty much handle it.

i don't know where it game from. ;)


hahahahahahaha

[Fizzgig]

Originally Posted by tony404

I think this is different than acacia lots of people see this as a second chance of being part of the gold rush.

There is that, but there are drawbacks to that idea as well.

[MikeHawk]

Edit:
XXX If you had The Names Of Who Is Behind The Scenes On This....

Lets just say if you had the complete list of who is involved and has made all the future traffic deals and has been paid money for there votes....

[seeric]

fear based .xxx purchases are what will be used by stuart to show the political administration that we "want" this.

[Far-L]

I am no stranger to big issues and costly disputes that potentially effect huge sectors of our industry.

I would be happy to share what information I am privy too but right now I am still under a gag order and I have squelched myself in all conflicts until further notice to avoid more battles than we have already taken on.

But in my opinion, do the right thing.

If you know the facts and believe the industry has a right to the information in order to protect businesses then share the list. If you believe that everyone needs to find out on their own and deal with it on their own terms then don't share it.

Either way, this is not a matter of being a "tattletale" if you say something. This isn't not telling the teacher who threw the spitball - this is an issue that effects the entire industry and a matter which imo justifies disclosure for everyone to make their own opinion on whether or not they choose to do business with companies in favor of .xxx or not.

[J$tyle$]

Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Edit:
XXX If you had The Names Of Who Is Behind The Scenes On This....

Lets just say if you had the complete list of who is involved and has made all the future traffic deals and has been paid money for there votes....

For the record, Mike - that's what I thought you meant!

[Aussie Rebel]

If your not going to out them, you might aswell be on the list yourself, just out these fuckers already

[Arab_Sex]

Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Lets just say if i had the complete list of who is involved and has made all the future traffic deals and has been paid money for there votes....

What would you do?

1. Trade it for massive life time traffic?

2. Just post it up so everyone can see who is selling us out?

3. Sell it back to one of those on the list, biggest offer gets it?

4. Keep it to myself and be a good guy and not rock the boat...lol

Your the sell out.

If what you claim you have is true,Your bullshit post is nothing more than a brown nosing attempt to get " those people on this marvelous list" to kiss your ass by keeping it hush hush.

Any person with an ounce of intelligence can see that.

[Nikki_Licks]

BUMP.... To expose this list....

If they are so proud and back the .xxx, then why do they cower in the dark shadows and not want to be known? Obviously they want to play both side of the fence to cover their asses.

[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by Far-L

I am no stranger to big issues and costly disputes that potentially effect huge sectors of our industry.

I would be happy to share what information I am privy too but right now I am still under a gag order and I have squelched myself in all conflicts until further notice to avoid more battles than we have already taken on.

But in my opinion, do the right thing.

If you know the facts and believe the industry has a right to the information in order to protect businesses then share the list. If you believe that everyone needs to find out on their own and deal with it on their own terms then don't share it.

Either way, this is not a matter of being a "tattletale" if you say something. This isn't not telling the teacher who threw the spitball - this is an issue that effects the entire industry and a matter which imo justifies disclosure for everyone to make their own opinion on whether or not they choose to do business with companies in favor of .xxx or not.

I thought only judges could issues a gag order.....hummmm

[Nikki_Licks]

I posted this in another thread and thought it would also fit nicely here.

Lets assume .xxx does not pass, the people who jumped up, kissing Lawleys ass and pre registering domains would be in big jeopardy. I think that if webmasters found out who they are, they would stop conducting business with them...hence bye-bye to their businesses. This is why they want to hide in the shadows, not be seen or heard or exposed to the adult community. Nothing like playing the fence to cover their ass, huh?

Lawley is using this pre registering of .xxx as an admittance that everyone is in favor of his scam. ICM used this same tactic last year to show all the support that they had, while offering pre registration of .xxx domains, claiming everyone wants it, it was all under false pretences. Webmasters were pre registering domains to protect their .com domains because Lawley and his merry bunch of assfucks had no plan to protect anything or anyone, execpt their wallets and they have no plan to protect children...PERIOD!!!!

This in itself should tell everyone this ICM and Lawley can not be trusted with their nefarious ways.

Lawley

[escorpio]

Line 'em up and mow 'em down.