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Naughty · 07-29-2002, 09:14 AM

Anybody any good tips about that? We're getting ready to use more than just iBill, they lost our memberpasswords for the 3th time in 3 weeks, causing cancellations

We think it is a good idea to use at least iBill and CCBill (maybe more), but it would be nice if we can use the same usernames for all processors, so our affiliates dont have to signup for every processor again and again.

Any good stories of stuff that works?

Naughty · 07-29-2002, 09:23 AM

Anybody know of mansionproductions?

gothweb · 07-29-2002, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Naughty
Anybody any good tips about that? We're getting ready to use more than just iBill, they lost our memberpasswords for the 3th time in 3 weeks, causing cancellations

We think it is a good idea to use at least iBill and CCBill (maybe more), but it would be nice if we can use the same usernames for all processors, so our affiliates dont have to signup for every processor again and again.

Any good stories of stuff that works?

They LOST your member passwords? Nice work.

KingK7 · 07-29-2002, 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by Naughty
Anybody know of mansionproductions?

The new software they've got, MPA2, looks real good.
It "cascades" between the processors, making quite the difference in revenue %.

KingK7 · 07-29-2002, 09:28 AM

http://www.mansionproductions.com/mpa2.html

Naughty · 07-29-2002, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by gothweb

They LOST your member passwords? Nice work.

Yeah, classic. Yesterday they told us to shut down our website (over 100k visitors a day) untill THEY had solved THEIR problems

archer · 07-29-2002, 11:48 AM

naughty..what silly fuckers! doesn't exactly make them look good

i checked out the mansion site.... looks interesting but i always worry when i cant find a price..... how much does this software cost?

and what do other paysites use?

gothweb · 07-29-2002, 11:50 AM

Based on what you've said, I have this crazy thought...

Don't supplement your processor, replace them. I would.

(Well, no, I wouldn't. I am a small fry. We have days with no sales. So I wouldn't panic from a day off. But if I had your traffic, I would have been set up with CCBill by the end of the day.)

KingK7 · 07-29-2002, 11:54 AM

There are ups and downs with every processor in this biz, I have been through most of them.
Best processor option right now is Epoch, IMO.
But it's always good to spread it out a little bit, "don't keep all the eggs in one basket"...

Naughty · 07-29-2002, 11:58 AM

I believe their software is expensive, about $12k.

We're talking to CCBill also, I have always liked their service, I think it is the best I've seen. always somebody available online to talk to, iBill always wants me to fill in a form and then it takes forever to get an answer.

We did get a welcome letter from our representative 3 times though

Of course - being ironic - after we were already in business for a month:p

Some swear by iBill, so I am not saying that they suck, WE just have a bad week with them.

KingK7 · 07-29-2002, 01:01 PM

I am not sure about the price, but $12k (if thats correct) is not that expensive for this type of software.
It apparently has affiliate payouts per click / signup etc..
Those programs usually dont come cheap.
And if you are able to do 15% more transactions with the software, it'll pay itself in no-time if you have a decent amount of transactions.

archer · 07-29-2002, 01:05 PM

so mansion is a 'replacement' for ccbill etc?

that can't be .... why would any pay site(aside from the really big guys) want to assume all the credit card risk?

KingK7 · 07-29-2002, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by archer
so mansion is a 'replacement' for ccbill etc?

that can't be .... why would any pay site(aside from the really big guys) want to assume all the credit card risk?

No not a replacement, it just handles all the switches between the credit card processors.
If the transaction does not go through with iBill, it gets sent on to CCBill, then to Epoch.
It's more of a management program.
I know one of the owners of Mansion pretty good, also hosted with them for a year or so. Everything always gets done properly and on time, no complaints from me.
And I know they have put in ALOT of time and effort into this program.

Sly_RJ · 07-29-2002, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by archer
so mansion is a 'replacement' for ccbill etc?

that can't be .... why would any pay site(aside from the really big guys) want to assume all the credit card risk?

I haven't looked... but it sounds like a platform to easily allow the integration of several processors.

RandyAMC · 07-29-2002, 02:27 PM

We bought MPA2 a few months ago, this is our third program upgrade. We have been very happy with the program and custom features. Their programming staff and support is exceptional and worth every penny. If you have any questions I'll be more than happy to help. In addition to credit cards, Epoch, CCbill and Ibill you can take checks and PayPal as well.

archer · 07-29-2002, 06:12 PM

questions... yes.

i thought the 15% cut that the ccbills of the world was to pay for site admin such as rebill, credit card risk... affiliate tracking....

what exactly does mansion give that the ccbills of the world dont?

WayPay-Kenny · 07-29-2002, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Naughty
Anybody any good tips about that? We're getting ready to use more than just iBill, they lost our memberpasswords for the 3th time in 3 weeks, causing cancellations

We think it is a good idea to use at least iBill and CCBill (maybe more), but it would be nice if we can use the same usernames for all processors, so our affiliates dont have to signup for every processor again and again.

Any good stories of stuff that works?

We don't have a specific solution for the affiliate side of things, but we can help you support multiple billers. We just pass affiliate information through currently.

http://www.waypay.com

I know I'm new, but our service may just help. I promise, I won't blindly post this elsewhere in the forum!

Ludedude · 07-29-2002, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by archer
questions... yes.

i thought the 15% cut that the ccbills of the world was to pay for site admin such as rebill, credit card risk... affiliate tracking....

what exactly does mansion give that the ccbills of the world dont?

Dude, MPA is processor cascading software not another credit card 3rd party company.

NETbilling · 07-29-2002, 08:50 PM

Hi Naughty,

Mansion productions doees make a good product frm what we have seen and heard.
You can also benefit from using a processor that gives you control over the level of fruad scrubbing on your sites. This way there is not of a reason to pass between processors as the 1st in the chain can yeild the best results.

Please call us to discuss your options and let us show you what we have to offer. You will be pleasantly surprised especially with our low prices and extremely responsive service.

It's all about control!

Thank you, Mitch Farber

p.s. King7 - Have you ever tried us?

Kimmykim · 07-29-2002, 08:56 PM

If I were you Naughty, I'd have a look at something Evil Dan's got just about ready to release so far as I know -- it's quite a bit more feature wise than anything else on the market -- and combines alot of payment processing options, tons of good ideas, and an all around good situation.

I'd email [email protected] and tell him you'd like a demo and to know when it's going to be ready -- before I shelled out a dime to anyone else.

As for processors, from the standpoint of reliability, uptime, and service, CCBill is the way to go.

They've never paid anyone late, never failed to pay reserves, the whole thing. IBill would be my second choice, but I can see your frustration with them at the moment...

MultiBill · 07-29-2002, 09:51 PM

Thanks for the recommendation KK

Already had two queries from your post ;-)

Anyway, the update on our soon to be launched product http://multibill.com/ is as follows:

1) MultiBill is to be beta tested on http://www.hardprofits.com/ so we can belt out all the bugs on our own systems

2) Our first client has already signed up, and is ready to take the good with the bad immediately

3) The affiliate tracking modules are just about finished, enabling the tracking of sales across multiple processors

4) Discussions are under way to add several new currencies very shortly

5) Our IP tracking systems are working perfectly, enabling us to profile each and every surfer, thus letting us put the best billing option forward for each consumer in one of five different languages (4 more languages on join pages and customer support coming soon) - see example on http://www.sexcovergirl.com/join.php - Try to change the counties and language modules

6) The results are in. We make more $$ per click on iBill traffic, than our other two processors. So we can ensure the best possible result even between our processors

7) Our systems automatically detect if one of our processors join pages are there or not (or even if they are taking too long to load), which has seen our sign ups increase

8) Our dialer system uses two dialer companies for redundancy, higher $$ per minute, plus we monitor the speed of each connection. No mater how good your content is, if your surfer is viewing you at 12k, he/she won?t stay more than one minute

And the list of new and improved stuff marches on.

Truly, the only thing holding us up is the beta testing. We will advise on our site http://www.multibill.com/ when we are ready to come out and increase sales for any professional Webmaster.

Regards
Daniel Hicks
MuliBill.com

ICQ: 92462894

FATPad · 07-29-2002, 10:25 PM

Wasn't that Mansion cascading processor program the one that had the webmaster shave built right into it?

NETbilling · 07-29-2002, 11:31 PM

MultiBill,

Let's get a demo working together Daniel.
Email me a # to reach you tomorrow or I will have Karen call you a the # we have on file for you.

Thank you, Mitch Farber

WayPay-Kenny · 08-05-2002, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WayPay-Kenny

We don't have a specific solution for the affiliate side of things, but we can help you support multiple billers. We just pass affiliate information through currently.

Just wanted to add, we have addressed the affiliate solution.

Naughty · 08-05-2002, 07:53 AM

This thread must have slipped my attention after I wnet to bed that night

Thanks KK, I'll look into that for sure.

X3_Born · 08-05-2002, 09:42 AM

Naughty,

If you are looking for a multi processor sign up script, shoot me over an email with your needs and contact infomation. I am sure we have something you are looking for

.

Born
http://x3scripts.com

garry · 08-17-2002, 08:39 AM

Hello everyone...

MPA2,,, You guys haven't heard about MansionProductions.com mpa2 program ?
I have seen some post about it before on this board, and let me try to clear a few things up.
The mpa2 program do not just add other payment options on the web bad page that the surfer has to click and then fill out his payment information again. The mpa2 program grabs the info of the surfer, then automatically add it to the processors.
Everyone that use our program have at least 20% more signups now because of the automatic cascading. Some even get 13% of their signups from the last processor on the list !!!!
And as if that wasn't enough, mpa2 also work with paypal and check as well.

Now that is only about the cascading. The mpa2 program is made by webmasters for webmasters. We have had several beta testers that have tried the program for months before we offered it to the marked.
You can run a pay per signup, pay per unique and a partnership program with the mpa2. You can run all 3 programs or just two or one of them. The program will automatically give your webmasters the referring urls for them to send traffic to, for the programs you have chosen to offer.
The mpa2 program grabs the customers email address and if he leaves the signup process or he can not signup, then his email address will be added in a non active members database. So from inside the mpa2 program you can easily send out emails to all your non active members. It also grabs the email addresses of your active and non active webmasters.
The program even shows you a profit report of your sites and your programs. Meaning that you can easily see if you are making any money on your per signup program or not.

I could go on and on about the mpa2 program, like the charge back report you can do on your webmasters, automatically payout reports for QuickBooks, fraud protection, picture of the day program and so on and so on. But I guess you are tired of me already so I will leave you guys alone now

Please feel free to send me an ICQ message, email or give us a phone call if you like to talk more....

PS: We have worked out a new payment plan now where you can lease the whole program, still hosted on your server, for only $300 a month.
Do the math. Even if you do not process for more then $5000 a month, and the mpa2 program is proven to make you at least 20% more signups, then you have a $1000 extra just from the cascading part of the program !!!!

Garry
ICQ#: 11564972

Que? · 08-17-2002, 12:15 PM

I just relegated ccbill to backup in favor of globill. check my sig. It has a better interface , dialer option and #900 within the affiliate program ´which ccbil has not. Multilingual sinup. Goes well with european traffic . About 25% of the US signups still go with ccbill. Old habit maybe.....

Shoplifter · 08-17-2002, 01:22 PM

Are there any scripts that ONLY poll multiple processors? I don't need the affiliate system....$300 USD a month for this is a bit steep. I would certainly buy a multiple polling script tho.

I think as far as multiple processor polling this can be done with a CGI that just moves the address variables around to suit the various processors you are polling.

Thanks!

07-29-2002, 09:14 AM	#1
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,482	Setting up multiple processors Anybody any good tips about that? We're getting ready to use more than just iBill, they lost our memberpasswords for the 3th time in 3 weeks, causing cancellations We think it is a good idea to use at least iBill and CCBill (maybe more), but it would be nice if we can use the same usernames for all processors, so our affiliates dont have to signup for every processor again and again. Any good stories of stuff that works? __________________ seks.ai for sale - ping me

07-29-2002, 11:48 AM	#7
archer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,721	naughty..what silly fuckers! doesn't exactly make them look good i checked out the mansion site.... looks interesting but i always worry when i cant find a price..... how much does this software cost? and what do other paysites use? __________________ Looking to promote uncut cock? Check out Uncut Cash. It rocks.

07-29-2002, 11:50 AM	#8
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Based on what you've said, I have this crazy thought... Don't supplement your processor, replace them. I would. (Well, no, I wouldn't. I am a small fry. We have days with no sales. So I wouldn't panic from a day off. But if I had your traffic, I would have been set up with CCBill by the end of the day.) __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

07-29-2002, 01:05 PM	#12
archer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,721	so mansion is a 'replacement' for ccbill etc? that can't be .... why would any pay site(aside from the really big guys) want to assume all the credit card risk? __________________ Looking to promote uncut cock? Check out Uncut Cash. It rocks.

07-29-2002, 02:27 PM	#15
RandyAMC Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX USA Posts: 38	MPA2 We bought MPA2 a few months ago, this is our third program upgrade. We have been very happy with the program and custom features. Their programming staff and support is exceptional and worth every penny. If you have any questions I'll be more than happy to help. In addition to credit cards, Epoch, CCbill and Ibill you can take checks and PayPal as well. __________________ <p align="left"> <a href="http://adultmegacash.com"> <img border="0" src="http://amc2.adultmegacash.com/images/amc/amc13ban.gif" width="468" height="60"></a><br> <a href="http://adultmegacash.com">Adult Mega Cash - Paying since 1997 - ICQ 16013470</a></p> Last edited by RandyAMC; 07-29-2002 at 02:29 PM..

07-29-2002, 09:23 AM	#2
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,482	Anybody know of mansionproductions?

07-29-2002, 09:28 AM	#5
KingK7 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6,372	http://www.mansionproductions.com/mpa2.html

07-29-2002, 11:54 AM	#9
KingK7 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6,372	There are ups and downs with every processor in this biz, I have been through most of them. Best processor option right now is Epoch, IMO. But it's always good to spread it out a little bit, "don't keep all the eggs in one basket"...

07-29-2002, 11:58 AM	#10
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,482	I believe their software is expensive, about $12k. We're talking to CCBill also, I have always liked their service, I think it is the best I've seen. always somebody available online to talk to, iBill always wants me to fill in a form and then it takes forever to get an answer. We did get a welcome letter from our representative 3 times though Of course - being ironic - after we were already in business for a month:p Some swear by iBill, so I am not saying that they suck, WE just have a bad week with them.

07-29-2002, 01:01 PM	#11
KingK7 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6,372	I am not sure about the price, but $12k (if thats correct) is not that expensive for this type of software. It apparently has affiliate payouts per click / signup etc.. Those programs usually dont come cheap. And if you are able to do 15% more transactions with the software, it'll pay itself in no-time if you have a decent amount of transactions.

07-29-2002, 06:12 PM	#16
archer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,721	questions... yes. i thought the 15% cut that the ccbills of the world was to pay for site admin such as rebill, credit card risk... affiliate tracking.... what exactly does mansion give that the ccbills of the world dont? __________________ Looking to promote uncut cock? Check out Uncut Cash. It rocks.

07-29-2002, 08:50 PM	#19
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	Hi Naughty, Mansion productions doees make a good product frm what we have seen and heard. You can also benefit from using a processor that gives you control over the level of fruad scrubbing on your sites. This way there is not of a reason to pass between processors as the 1st in the chain can yeild the best results. Please call us to discuss your options and let us show you what we have to offer. You will be pleasantly surprised especially with our low prices and extremely responsive service. It's all about control! Thank you, Mitch Farber p.s. King7 - Have you ever tried us? __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

07-29-2002, 08:56 PM	#20
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	If I were you Naughty, I'd have a look at something Evil Dan's got just about ready to release so far as I know -- it's quite a bit more feature wise than anything else on the market -- and combines alot of payment processing options, tons of good ideas, and an all around good situation. I'd email [email protected] and tell him you'd like a demo and to know when it's going to be ready -- before I shelled out a dime to anyone else. As for processors, from the standpoint of reliability, uptime, and service, CCBill is the way to go. They've never paid anyone late, never failed to pay reserves, the whole thing. IBill would be my second choice, but I can see your frustration with them at the moment...

07-29-2002, 09:51 PM	#21
MultiBill Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia & LasVegas, Nevada & Manila, Philippines Posts: 62	Thanks for the recommendation KK Already had two queries from your post ;-) Anyway, the update on our soon to be launched product http://multibill.com/ is as follows: 1) MultiBill is to be beta tested on http://www.hardprofits.com/ so we can belt out all the bugs on our own systems 2) Our first client has already signed up, and is ready to take the good with the bad immediately 3) The affiliate tracking modules are just about finished, enabling the tracking of sales across multiple processors 4) Discussions are under way to add several new currencies very shortly 5) Our IP tracking systems are working perfectly, enabling us to profile each and every surfer, thus letting us put the best billing option forward for each consumer in one of five different languages (4 more languages on join pages and customer support coming soon) - see example on http://www.sexcovergirl.com/join.php - Try to change the counties and language modules 6) The results are in. We make more $$ per click on iBill traffic, than our other two processors. So we can ensure the best possible result even between our processors 7) Our systems automatically detect if one of our processors join pages are there or not (or even if they are taking too long to load), which has seen our sign ups increase 8) Our dialer system uses two dialer companies for redundancy, higher $$ per minute, plus we monitor the speed of each connection. No mater how good your content is, if your surfer is viewing you at 12k, he/she won?t stay more than one minute And the list of new and improved stuff marches on. Truly, the only thing holding us up is the beta testing. We will advise on our site http://www.multibill.com/ when we are ready to come out and increase sales for any professional Webmaster. Regards Daniel Hicks MuliBill.com ICQ: 92462894 __________________ Optmized Payment Protection

07-29-2002, 10:25 PM	#22
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	Wasn't that Mansion cascading processor program the one that had the webmaster shave built right into it? __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

07-29-2002, 11:31 PM	#23
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	MultiBill, Let's get a demo working together Daniel. Email me a # to reach you tomorrow or I will have Karen call you a the # we have on file for you. Thank you, Mitch Farber __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998! Last edited by NETbilling; 07-29-2002 at 11:33 PM..

08-05-2002, 07:53 AM	#25
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,482	This thread must have slipped my attention after I wnet to bed that night Thanks KK, I'll look into that for sure.

08-05-2002, 09:42 AM	#26
X3_Born Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 52	Naughty, If you are looking for a multi processor sign up script, shoot me over an email with your needs and contact infomation. I am sure we have something you are looking for . Born http://x3scripts.com

08-17-2002, 08:39 AM	#27
garry Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 680	Hello everyone... MPA2,,, You guys haven't heard about MansionProductions.com mpa2 program ? I have seen some post about it before on this board, and let me try to clear a few things up. The mpa2 program do not just add other payment options on the web bad page that the surfer has to click and then fill out his payment information again. The mpa2 program grabs the info of the surfer, then automatically add it to the processors. Everyone that use our program have at least 20% more signups now because of the automatic cascading. Some even get 13% of their signups from the last processor on the list !!!! And as if that wasn't enough, mpa2 also work with paypal and check as well. Now that is only about the cascading. The mpa2 program is made by webmasters for webmasters. We have had several beta testers that have tried the program for months before we offered it to the marked. You can run a pay per signup, pay per unique and a partnership program with the mpa2. You can run all 3 programs or just two or one of them. The program will automatically give your webmasters the referring urls for them to send traffic to, for the programs you have chosen to offer. The mpa2 program grabs the customers email address and if he leaves the signup process or he can not signup, then his email address will be added in a non active members database. So from inside the mpa2 program you can easily send out emails to all your non active members. It also grabs the email addresses of your active and non active webmasters. The program even shows you a profit report of your sites and your programs. Meaning that you can easily see if you are making any money on your per signup program or not. I could go on and on about the mpa2 program, like the charge back report you can do on your webmasters, automatically payout reports for QuickBooks, fraud protection, picture of the day program and so on and so on. But I guess you are tired of me already so I will leave you guys alone now Please feel free to send me an ICQ message, email or give us a phone call if you like to talk more.... PS: We have worked out a new payment plan now where you can lease the whole program, still hosted on your server, for only $300 a month. Do the math. Even if you do not process for more then $5000 a month, and the mpa2 program is proven to make you at least 20% more signups, then you have a $1000 extra just from the cascading part of the program !!!! Garry ICQ#: 11564972 __________________ The Creator Of THE STANDARD* *in Affiliate Program Software - We make affiliates and program owners more money! MPA3® – Anything Else Is A Replica Choose between our impressive lineup of software's: MPA3® PRO - MPA3® ENTERPRISE - MPA3® Standard -MAS® CMS - and topping it off with amazing DESIGN, Consulting and Webmaster Services! "Your Mansion of Opportunities!" Around since 1997 and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" to the industry. MPA3® V5 - The most intuitive Affiliate Program Software ever made - MPA3® V5 – Anything Else Is A Replica

08-17-2002, 12:15 PM	#28
Que? Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 340	I just relegated ccbill to backup in favor of globill. check my sig. It has a better interface , dialer option and #900 within the affiliate program ´which ccbil has not. Multilingual sinup. Goes well with european traffic . About 25% of the US signups still go with ccbill. Old habit maybe..... __________________ Send ccia out to deep space:<br> Donate to <a href="http://www.impai.org/">IMPA</a>

08-17-2002, 01:22 PM	#29
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,726	Are there any scripts that ONLY poll multiple processors? I don't need the affiliate system....$300 USD a month for this is a bit steep. I would certainly buy a multiple polling script tho. I think as far as multiple processor polling this can be done with a CGI that just moves the address variables around to suit the various processors you are polling. Thanks!