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baddog · 01-21-2007, 02:37 PM

Since the cloning of cows, sheep, etc is soon to be upon us, does this mean that you can start eating beef and wearing leather as long as they are from the cloned version?

Idigmygirls · 01-21-2007, 02:40 PM

No. A cloned animal is still a living animal.

However, when meat can be grown directly from cells without creating the animal - well, that a whole different story.

wyldworx · 01-21-2007, 02:42 PM

no its not. idiot.

baddog · 01-21-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Idigmygirls

No. A cloned animal is still a living animal.

However, when meat can be grown directly from cells without creating the animal - well, that a whole different story.

Like, if I can grow a rib-eye, you could eat that?

stickyfingerz · 01-21-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Idigmygirls

No. A cloned animal is still a living animal.

However, when meat can be grown directly from cells without creating the animal - well, that a whole different story.

why? those cells are alive too...

Cyndalie · 01-21-2007, 02:44 PM

Plant cells are alive too.
We eat cloned plants all the time.
Most of our food is engineered as it is, animal or plant.

joshll · 01-21-2007, 02:45 PM

Yea.. a cell is alive.. it needs to be to duplicate.. and it needs Micro-Organisms and stuff like that.. technically.. that is a living creature.

Herb Kornfield · 01-21-2007, 03:05 PM

I'm totally getting meat out of my life as of late.

Veg just digests better for me personally.

wyldworx · 01-21-2007, 03:09 PM

some people dont think b4 they post, it is a given in this place! he digs his girls allright, from thier graves!

Idigmygirls · 01-21-2007, 03:16 PM

Oh c'mon. There's a clear difference when the living animal has to be slaughtered to be eaten vs. eating something that doesn't need to be killed.

No one can seriously argue that cells or plants are living in the same way that a complex animal organism is living.

Penthouse Tony · 01-21-2007, 03:24 PM

mmmmmmmmmmmm steak

Rhesus · 01-21-2007, 03:30 PM

I mostly eat vegetarian, because

- I don't like the taste of meat
- The choice in supermarkets is usually limited to meat from the bio-industry as opposed to meat from animals that have lived a relatively normal life
- Logically speaking, there's a huge loss of energy in every step in the food chain, which means eating meat leaves a far larger ecological footstep than eating plants does.

shekinah · 01-21-2007, 04:36 PM

I'm not into veggies and I like meat a lot that's why I'm anemic.. but I don't care, a meat is a meat, whether cloned or not, I'll eat it

OzMan · 01-21-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Herb Kornfield

I'm totally getting meat out of my life as of late.

Veg just digests better for me personally.

to match you nick?

notabook · 01-21-2007, 04:47 PM

I like meat; unfortunately my teeth are so fucked up it's hard to me to eat it unless it's super tenderized. I am usually forced to eat chicken as a result.. =| As for the vegetarian thing I think they are opposed to it because it's a living creature (rather than down to the 'living cell' argument). I assume once we're able to mass produce cultured meat (we're already able to grow 'slabs' of meat, just not economically) they won't be able to say anything bad about it then.

01-21-2007, 02:37 PM	#1
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01-21-2007, 02:40 PM	#2
Idigmygirls Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 498	No. A cloned animal is still a living animal. However, when meat can be grown directly from cells without creating the animal - well, that a whole different story. __________________ Red Light Center - Adult Metaverse https://www.redlightcenter.com

01-21-2007, 02:44 PM	#6
Cyndalie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 3,615	Plant cells are alive too. We eat cloned plants all the time. Most of our food is engineered as it is, animal or plant. __________________ Cyndalie Marketing Director StoriesTraffic.com

01-21-2007, 02:45 PM	#7
joshll Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tenerife, Los Gigantos Posts: 1,534	Yea.. a cell is alive.. it needs to be to duplicate.. and it needs Micro-Organisms and stuff like that.. technically.. that is a living creature. __________________ WiredBall PinPointsX ICQ: 227454293

01-21-2007, 03:16 PM	#10
Idigmygirls Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 498	Oh c'mon. There's a clear difference when the living animal has to be slaughtered to be eaten vs. eating something that doesn't need to be killed. No one can seriously argue that cells or plants are living in the same way that a complex animal organism is living. __________________ Red Light Center - Adult Metaverse https://www.redlightcenter.com

01-21-2007, 02:42 PM	#3
wyldworx So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: oz-trailer Posts: 5,144	no its not. idiot.

01-21-2007, 03:05 PM	#8
Herb Kornfield Is on the 1 Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 4,996	I'm totally getting meat out of my life as of late. Veg just digests better for me personally.

01-21-2007, 03:09 PM	#9
wyldworx So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: oz-trailer Posts: 5,144	some people dont think b4 they post, it is a given in this place! he digs his girls allright, from thier graves!

01-21-2007, 03:24 PM	#11
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01-21-2007, 03:30 PM	#12
Rhesus Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,009	I mostly eat vegetarian, because - I don't like the taste of meat - The choice in supermarkets is usually limited to meat from the bio-industry as opposed to meat from animals that have lived a relatively normal life - Logically speaking, there's a huge loss of energy in every step in the food chain, which means eating meat leaves a far larger ecological footstep than eating plants does.

01-21-2007, 04:36 PM	#13
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01-21-2007, 04:47 PM	#15
notabook Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Not a Library! Posts: 9,748	I like meat; unfortunately my teeth are so fucked up it's hard to me to eat it unless it's super tenderized. I am usually forced to eat chicken as a result.. =\| As for the vegetarian thing I think they are opposed to it because it's a living creature (rather than down to the 'living cell' argument). I assume once we're able to mass produce cultured meat (we're already able to grow 'slabs' of meat, just not economically) they won't be able to say anything bad about it then. __________________