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baddog 01-21-2007 02:37 PM

Question for vegans and vegetarians
 
Since the cloning of cows, sheep, etc is soon to be upon us, does this mean that you can start eating beef and wearing leather as long as they are from the cloned version?

Idigmygirls 01-21-2007 02:40 PM

No. A cloned animal is still a living animal.

However, when meat can be grown directly from cells without creating the animal - well, that a whole different story.

wyldworx 01-21-2007 02:42 PM

no its not. idiot.

baddog 01-21-2007 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idigmygirls (Post 11766145)
No. A cloned animal is still a living animal.

However, when meat can be grown directly from cells without creating the animal - well, that a whole different story.

Like, if I can grow a rib-eye, you could eat that?

stickyfingerz 01-21-2007 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idigmygirls (Post 11766145)
No. A cloned animal is still a living animal.

However, when meat can be grown directly from cells without creating the animal - well, that a whole different story.

why? those cells are alive too...

Cyndalie 01-21-2007 02:44 PM

Plant cells are alive too.
We eat cloned plants all the time.
Most of our food is engineered as it is, animal or plant.

joshll 01-21-2007 02:45 PM

Yea.. a cell is alive.. it needs to be to duplicate.. and it needs Micro-Organisms and stuff like that.. technically.. that is a living creature. :2 cents:

Herb Kornfield 01-21-2007 03:05 PM

I'm totally getting meat out of my life as of late.

Veg just digests better for me personally.

wyldworx 01-21-2007 03:09 PM

some people dont think b4 they post, it is a given in this place! he digs his girls allright, from thier graves!

Idigmygirls 01-21-2007 03:16 PM

Oh c'mon. There's a clear difference when the living animal has to be slaughtered to be eaten vs. eating something that doesn't need to be killed.

No one can seriously argue that cells or plants are living in the same way that a complex animal organism is living.

Penthouse Tony 01-21-2007 03:24 PM

mmmmmmmmmmmm steak

Rhesus 01-21-2007 03:30 PM

I mostly eat vegetarian, because

- I don't like the taste of meat
- The choice in supermarkets is usually limited to meat from the bio-industry as opposed to meat from animals that have lived a relatively normal life
- Logically speaking, there's a huge loss of energy in every step in the food chain, which means eating meat leaves a far larger ecological footstep than eating plants does.

shekinah 01-21-2007 04:36 PM

I'm not into veggies and I like meat a lot that's why I'm anemic.. but I don't care, a meat is a meat, whether cloned or not, I'll eat it:)

OzMan 01-21-2007 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herb Kornfield (Post 11766281)
I'm totally getting meat out of my life as of late.

Veg just digests better for me personally.

to match you nick?

notabook 01-21-2007 04:47 PM

I like meat; unfortunately my teeth are so fucked up it's hard to me to eat it unless it's super tenderized. I am usually forced to eat chicken as a result.. =| As for the vegetarian thing I think they are opposed to it because it's a living creature (rather than down to the 'living cell' argument). I assume once we're able to mass produce cultured meat (we're already able to grow 'slabs' of meat, just not economically) they won't be able to say anything bad about it then.


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