Anybody has experience brining models from Europe to US for photo/video shoots?

[Phil]

Turns out a friend of mine is running “model agency” in Eastern Europe and has few pro porn models that will do pretty much anything. Anybody has experience in that or know someone who would be interested? Portfolios will be provided upon request.

[the source]

just go there to shoot. much cheaper in the long run

[Phil]

I think thats why he wants to test waters here so he can make some real money.

[seven]

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

Turns out a friend of mine is running ?model agency? in Eastern Europe and has few pro porn models that will do pretty much anything. Anybody has experience in that or know someone who would be interested? Portfolios will be provided upon request.

They are very unlikely to get VISAs to enter the U.S. as long as the religious man is in power. Too many illegal east euros already in U.S. why wanna increase that number?

[Phil]

I guess its possible if they’ve been abroad before and have some established residency there. Would any content producers be interested in shooting those models?

[NemesiS876]

I am not, but I heard that they are very nice and fool of an experience ..

[inthecrack]

Just curious, with the new 2257 requiring American producers to have American ID for their models do any US producers even go to Europe to shoot any more? I've heard of some Euro models going to America and getting US ID but I don't know how that works if the producer goes to Europe. I wonder if the market dried up a little for the European model agencies.

[SleazyDream]

those girls usually ROCK

[jtpornstar]

Almost impossible. The girls would need a tourist visa, and for that they have to jump through some pretty difficult hoops at the American Embassy, which is on a permanent "unsympathetic towards Eastern European women" alert. The girl needs to be married, with children, have a proerty registered in her name, and have her bank statements showing she has lots of (non-recent mullah). If she ever did make it through, the fines to the company that shot her would be pretty high as well...no working visa! Cheaper to shoot her where she is.

[reynold]

Originally Posted by jtpornstar

Almost impossible. The girls would need a tourist visa, and for that they have to jump through some pretty difficult hoops at the American Embassy, which is on a permanent "unsympathetic towards Eastern European women" alert. The girl needs to be married, with children, have a proerty registered in her name, and have her bank statements showing she has lots of (non-recent mullah). If she ever did make it through, the fines to the company that shot her would be pretty high as well...no working visa! Cheaper to shoot her where she is.

This is as detailed as it gets.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by inthecrack

Just curious, with the new 2257 requiring American producers to have American ID for their models do any US producers even go to Europe to shoot any more? I've heard of some Euro models going to America and getting US ID but I don't know how that works if the producer goes to Europe. I wonder if the market dried up a little for the European model agencies.

With respect I suggest you get a new lawyer because your present one is wrong. Foreign IDs are perfectly legal and acceptable in the US for 2257 requirements. Otherwise Hustler would not still be buying and I'm sure their lawyers are clued up on 2257.

Originally Posted by jtpornstar

Almost impossible. The girls would need a tourist visa, and for that they have to jump through some pretty difficult hoops at the American Embassy, which is on a permanent "unsympathetic towards Eastern European women" alert. The girl needs to be married, with children, have a proerty registered in her name, and have her bank statements showing she has lots of (non-recent mullah). If she ever did make it through, the fines to the company that shot her would be pretty high as well...no working visa! Cheaper to shoot her where she is.

Very true, even Eva who was married, had a family, company director going to the US on business and home owner was pulled in for a second interview. Some 18 to 22 year old living with her Mum and Dad does not stand a chance.

Since 9/11 they have been even tougher and with the new passport requirements everyone had to reapply for a visa. So even girls with visas could have problems.

I think if your agent had a clue he would know this already. In fact if he lived in Eastern Europe he would have a good idea how it can be done and how hard it is.

Way cheaper to fly to the models. You have to buy the model a holiday in the US, $3,000 and up. Still don't get the visa but this is where you start. Then you apply for the visa. Other way is to prove the girl is going to work as an au pair or student. Which is a very long and hard route. Your agent does not know this? Get a new agent.

This is why Prague is now the center for porn production and some models here make more than most affiliates and models agents make more than some site owners.

[4Man]

Just make them sign-up some stupid contract...lol

[Lazonby]

Surely it makes more sense for the photographer et al to jump on a plane to Europe to do the shoots.

[Czech]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

With respect I suggest you get a new lawyer because your present one is wrong. Foreign IDs are perfectly legal and acceptable in the US for 2257 requirements. Otherwise Hustler would not still be buying and I'm sure their lawyers are clued up on 2257.



Very true, even Eva who was married, had a family, company director going to the US on business and home owner was pulled in for a second interview. Some 18 to 22 year old living with her Mum and Dad does not stand a chance.

Since 9/11 they have been even tougher and with the new passport requirements everyone had to reapply for a visa. So even girls with visas could have problems.

I think if your agent had a clue he would know this already. In fact if he lived in Eastern Europe he would have a good idea how it can be done and how hard it is.

Way cheaper to fly to the models. You have to buy the model a holiday in the US, $3,000 and up. Still don't get the visa but this is where you start. Then you apply for the visa. Other way is to prove the girl is going to work as an au pair or student. Which is a very long and hard route. Your agent does not know this? Get a new agent.

This is why Prague is now the center for porn production and some models here make more than most affiliates and models agents make more than some site owners.

Yep Paul is 100% correct on all counts

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

those girls usually ROCK

where did ya get that idea?

[tradermcduck]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

This is why Prague is now the center for porn production and some models here make more than most affiliates and models agents make more than some site owners.

do you need some pimps in Prague or Brno

[ro8in]

I knew a girl from eastern europe who got denied to the US when it was even totally clear she wanted to go there for studying.. She had the college papers and everything and still no VISA...

I guess US policy right now is NO!! no mather what the reason is..

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by tradermcduck

do you need some pimps in Prague or Brno

Do you have experience?

[seven]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I think if your agent had a clue he would know this already. In fact if he lived in Eastern Europe he would have a good idea how it can be done and how hard it is.

I'm sure his agent know this but he's got a bigger fish to fry like if he could get a hotshot sponsor his girls he could actually demand money from those models.. prolly human trafficing is what he wishes to do on the side if he could lol.

Regarding the 2257 inthecrack, it doesn't need a lawyer to read lot of the stuff that's put in there in simple english including the part about acceptable foreign IDs or nobody would be buying anything from Paul anymore which isn't the case right Paul?

[jtpornstar]

With respect to you, Camokat, your friend sounds like the typical Eastern European "model" agent: more pimp pretender trying to lazily make the day to day, as opposed to running a proper, long term business. If he wants to know something...something that could result in serious legal implications for those involved, then isn't it wiser to go to the source...ie in this case the US Embassy?
Personally, after 7 years shooting in Budapest, I can say without doubt, that I FUCKING HATE all agents and everything they stand for. They are ALL that stupid, that they still tell the "this girls never been shot before" lie...even when I have already shot her. I mean, you'd think they'd at least try and keep on top of where she has/hasn't worked. I even had 2 agents phone me up on Xmas day asking about work!
OK, Ok...Put the spliff down and step away from the keyboard....Rant over.

[TBrown]

it's simply not worth it....everything is cheaper in Eastern Europe

[arw]

...much more cheaper ;)

[Phil]

Originally Posted by jtpornstar

With respect to you, Camokat, your friend sounds like the typical Eastern European "model" agent: more pimp pretender trying to lazily make the day to day, as opposed to running a proper, long term business. If he wants to know something...something that could result in serious legal implications for those involved, then isn't it wiser to go to the source...ie in this case the US Embassy?
Personally, after 7 years shooting in Budapest, I can say without doubt, that I FUCKING HATE all agents and everything they stand for. They are ALL that stupid, that they still tell the "this girls never been shot before" lie...even when I have already shot her. I mean, you'd think they'd at least try and keep on top of where she has/hasn't worked. I even had 2 agents phone me up on Xmas day asking about work!
OK, Ok...Put the spliff down and step away from the keyboard....Rant over.

No man, he’s pretty solid and has done some work before. His wife is actually acting porn star, so he’s not just an agent. I agree, visa, IRS, INS is not worth messing with. Maybe we can think of something else like Costa Rica, Mexico or something like that.

[alredy1]

you're trying do something great LOL

[DaddyHalbucks]

Dunno, but I would get a serious legal opinion first.

Importing girls across international borders is a big move, and you want to make sure you are following all laws.