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Pathfinder · 07-27-2002, 04:12 AM

The congress is considering a bill that would legitimize hacking.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/industr...eut/index.html

Libertine · 07-27-2002, 04:27 AM

Why do Americans elect retarded people for congress?

darksoul · 07-27-2002, 04:36 AM

Hacking should be legal.
If you don't know to protect your datas, or have a stupid admin
then you deserve to be hacked&fucked, you ask for it.
AntiHacking laws are a stupid way to protect yourself from smarter people.

Just my

Libertine · 07-27-2002, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by darksoul
Hacking should be legal.
If you don't know to protect your datas, or have a stupid admin
then you deserve to be hacked&fucked, you ask for it.
AntiHacking laws are a stupid way to protect yourself from smarter people.

Just my

You're absolutely right. Just like burgling should be legal, and bank robbery, and grand theft auto. If you don't know how to protect your property, others can do with it as they please, right?

*cough*dumb-ass*cough*

Amputate Your Head · 07-27-2002, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
*cough*dumb-ass*cough*

i agree... he's a dumbass.

flashfreak · 07-27-2002, 05:33 AM

cool. A friend of mine is a famous cracker/hacker , whishmaker from TNT. I'll send himn an E-mail.

darksoul · 07-27-2002, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld

You're absolutely right. Just like burgling should be legal, and bank robbery, and grand theft auto. If you don't know how to protect your property, others can do with it as they please, right?

*cough*dumb-ass*cough*

hahahahahahahahahahahahha

but they are two different things.
hacking is from the so called virtual world while the others not.
Is that your excuse for not knowing how your computer works ?

Amputate Your Head · 07-27-2002, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by darksoul

hahahahahahahahahahahahha

but they are two different things.
hacking is from the so called virtual world while the others not.
Is that your excuse for not knowing how your computer works ?

doesn't matter.... both have real consequences... if that's gonna be your excuse in court when the judge is bringin' tha hamma down on you.... you'll lose.

Libertine · 07-27-2002, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by darksoul

hahahahahahahahahahahahha

but they are two different things.
hacking is from the so called virtual world while the others not.
Is that your excuse for not knowing how your computer works ?

Different things? Nothing virtual about the money being made online. Property is property, clear as that. Damaging property or stealing it is illegal.

I personally know how computers work, and am able to break into many servers without getting caught. I could also relatively easily create a hitbot that wouldn't get caught (and, because of this, I know there are most likely many people using hitbots that don't get caught), or a spam bot that wouldn't get me in trouble but that would bring in $$$.

However, does that make it right? Screwing other people is screwing other people, and these people are not virtual people. They live real lives that can suffer real damage from "virtual" actions.

jimmyf · 07-27-2002, 06:03 AM

Rep. Howard Berman, a California Democrat, said the measure was necessary because the decentralized systems were impossible to shut down.

Stupid fuck.

Libertine · 07-27-2002, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
Rep. Howard Berman, a California Democrat, said the measure was necessary because the decentralized systems were impossible to shut down.

Stupid fuck.

Just imagine what it would mean if companies dedicated solely to making money would have the right to break into your computer system at their sole discretion. Ofcourse, such companies would never abuse such rights for their own benefit

I must agree, that guy is indeed a stupid fuck.

Pipecrew · 07-27-2002, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
cool. A friend of mine is a famous cracker/hacker , whishmaker from TNT. I'll send himn an E-mail.

so basically he got his ass kicked a WHOLE BUNCH in highschool?

Dreamman010 · 07-27-2002, 07:00 AM

Shitty law..

Hackers should counter-hack those gov't offices in return

wannabeapornstar · 07-27-2002, 09:10 AM

it's american law but they will hack into computers outside US...so practically they'll be violating laws of other countries...

HQ · 07-27-2002, 09:59 AM

So if I have an insecure OS, that's my fault? It's impossible to be 100% hack-proof. Hackers have to find faults in systems before they can be patched.

Hacking should be illegal.

<IMX> · 07-27-2002, 01:18 PM

This is a bad piece of legislation.

However, those actions are already being done.

Italian officials hacked/cracked into servers hosted in the US, owned Italian companies that contained "sacreligious" material, which is illegal in Italy.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm...ews.technology

FBI hacks/cracks/obtains permission to KP sites and keeps them up to capture the information of people who sign up.

File sharing is next I guess.

I bet it will be the FBI doing the cracking though, under the guise of p2p will allow anit-state activity in the new "cyber-squad" of Homeland defense.

What's funny is that things like this are always outrageous...

Until it is YOUR stuff that people are abusing/stealing/etc...
Then you reach for anything at your disposal to stop that "asshole/s from ripping off my content/design/domain name/trademarks/ etc."

People here quickly legitimise anything to stop abusers of THEIR material...

mike503 · 07-27-2002, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by darksoul

hahahahahahahahahahahahha

but they are two different things.
hacking is from the so called virtual world while the others not.
Is that your excuse for not knowing how your computer works ?

i see your reasoning but i don't know much about how to take care of my car, so if someone broke into it is it my fault because i didn't protect it some special way? computers are the same way. the only reason you're so cocky is because you know shit about computers. if lawmakers were going to say that XYZ was legal and you felt like you could be violated from it since you didn't know much about it, you wouldn't have the same viewpoint..

Shoplifter · 07-27-2002, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by darksoul

hahahahahahahahahahahahha

but they are two different things.
hacking is from the so called virtual world while the others not.
Is that your excuse for not knowing how your computer works ?

The money I make in that "virtual world" seems pretty real to me.

There is no way this bill will fly...But if you have a court order for someone to stop a violation you should be able to shut them down. However sending a bailliff is usually the way to go.

Anyone offshore who is violating your copyright is already outside the law...And these guys are generally hacked or img sourced anyways.

TFCash · 07-27-2002, 07:22 PM

You have to be careful that the hunters don't become the hunted

You piss off some of these hacker groups, and you may find yourself on the wrong end of thier terror list

What I don't understand is, it's been proven that during the time that napster was running ramped that music sales soared to an all time high. So are these recording industry guy's just being a group of greedy assholes, that are cutting off thier nose to spite the face ?? Got me, but is sure does seem like they should be thankfull that the music got out there, and that people liked what they heard enough to shell out the $15 bucks for the real CD.

Tim

TopTGP · 07-27-2002, 08:59 PM

Most hackers follow the hackers ethic "dont damage anything"... They just want to learn more about how systems operate, thus expanding their knowledge of the digital world.. I say go for it as long as you aren't stealing personal/financial information, and aren't damaging or harming anything/anyone...

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HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	So if I have an insecure OS, that's my fault? It's impossible to be 100% hack-proof. Hackers have to find faults in systems before they can be patched. Hacking should be illegal.

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<IMX> Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,728	This is a bad piece of legislation. However, those actions are already being done. Italian officials hacked/cracked into servers hosted in the US, owned Italian companies that contained "sacreligious" material, which is illegal in Italy. http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm...ews.technology FBI hacks/cracks/obtains permission to KP sites and keeps them up to capture the information of people who sign up. File sharing is next I guess. I bet it will be the FBI doing the cracking though, under the guise of p2p will allow anit-state activity in the new "cyber-squad" of Homeland defense. What's funny is that things like this are always outrageous... Until it is YOUR stuff that people are abusing/stealing/etc... Then you reach for anything at your disposal to stop that "asshole/s from ripping off my content/design/domain name/trademarks/ etc." People here quickly legitimise anything to stop abusers of THEIR material... __________________ $$$ Check out NICHE PAY the leader of Micro Niche Sites! They offer $1 Trials! $$$ $$$ Check out 10 FREE TRIAL SALES equals 1 FREE LAP TOP ! $$$ Last edited by <IMX>; 07-27-2002 at 01:22 PM..

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TFCash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,738	You have to be careful that the hunters don't become the hunted You piss off some of these hacker groups, and you may find yourself on the wrong end of thier terror list What I don't understand is, it's been proven that during the time that napster was running ramped that music sales soared to an all time high. So are these recording industry guy's just being a group of greedy assholes, that are cutting off thier nose to spite the face ?? Got me, but is sure does seem like they should be thankfull that the music got out there, and that people liked what they heard enough to shell out the $15 bucks for the real CD. Tim

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TopTGP Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: poco, BC, Canada Posts: 546	Most hackers follow the hackers ethic "dont damage anything"... They just want to learn more about how systems operate, thus expanding their knowledge of the digital world.. I say go for it as long as you aren't stealing personal/financial information, and aren't damaging or harming anything/anyone... __________________ I can't think of anything funny to say..