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Old 01-11-2007, 01:19 PM   #1
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Google dropped our site from PR-6 to PR-0 because of RSS

We just installed WordPress and FeedWordPress onto our server to grab news items then distribute them to our staff. Yesterday we had a Google PR of 6 which we've had for a long time and today it's at Zero.

I'm 99% sure that this is why our page rank dropped because some of the news items were from Google News and therefore Google has a syndication link in the news items so they instantly know when someone clicks on a news item where our site is.

We are going to move Word Press to a different domain on a different IP, but I still have a coupld of concerns...

1) How long will it take Google to raise our PR back up after we take down the newsfeeds? Are are we permantly screwed by Google?

2) If we link to the new site and have the site link back to us will that contribute to a lower PR rank?
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:23 PM   #2
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1) How long will it take Google to raise our PR back up after we take down the newsfeeds? Are are we permantly screwed by Google?
--> i think its every 4 months that pr gets updated

2) If we link to the new site and have the site link back to us will that contribute to a lower PR rank?
-->no, are u movin it to diff IP?
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:25 PM   #3
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obviously the rss is not the reason.
Calm down, then check your PR again tomorrow.
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google doesn't make pr changes over night man. whatever "killed" your PR happened over the last time since the last update
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Yes we will add a new domain onto a different server just for news items for our staff.

If we use a server that is hosting other domains of ours will it decrease those domains PR rankings?
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:28 PM   #6
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Could be a bug, Google has been acting strangely recently.
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:30 PM   #7
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take a deep breath.....

PR is shuffling right now so wait until the dust settles before panicking.

If you are still zero it wasn't RSS that did it. Google doesn't penalize people for using their feeds. You might as well blame whatever shoes you had on today and vow never to wear them again.

You might have been in the middle of changing your site when the bot visited or whatever..it will most likely be back up soon.
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google pr is CONSTANTLY updated, the toolbar is a export they do every 3-4 months

check your pr here

http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_checker

and tell me what it says in all the servers
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:32 PM   #9
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obviously the rss is not the reason.
Calm down, then check your PR again tomorrow.
Agreed....
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You might as well blame whatever shoes you had on today and vow never to wear them again.
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listen to the majority here, youre way overreacting and i never heard of a PR change overnight because you got a damn rss feed on your site.... from google themselfs, for lucifers sake!
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Here is why I think it may have been the RSS feed.

After we started pulling in news feeds and also blog feeds using blogsearch.google.com I noticed that google's blogsearch started republishing our feeds that we had just pulled from them and then FeedWordPress republihsed them again our our site as new since they had the same seach keywords. Sort of a never ending newsfeed loop.

We instantly corrected this my having our domain name excluded in the new searches.
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I know what the problem is. It is not the RSS feeds. Do you by any chance use the font verdana on your site? If you do then that is the reason, Google just updated their standards and every site with the font verdana gets an instant 0 page rank. To fix this you need to switch to arial ASAP!
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yeah, mine just dropped to 0 as well...
is that verdana thing true?? because that IS what I use..
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google pr is CONSTANTLY updated, the toolbar is a export they do every 3-4 months

check your pr here

http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_checker

and tell me what it says in all the servers
i checked on two of my domains. one is pr2 on all servers, and the other domain is pr3 on all server. nifty tool. thanks yo!
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:41 PM   #16
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hahahaha

hell..anyone wearing those shoes deserves a permanent ban
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:41 PM   #17
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google pr is CONSTANTLY updated, the toolbar is a export they do every 3-4 months

check your pr here


and tell me what it says in all the servers
Here are the results

1 toolbarqueries.google.com (6)
2 216.239.37.* (0)
3 216.239.39.* (6)
4 216.239.51.* (6)
5 216.239.53.* (6)
6 216.239.57.* (6)
7 216.239.59.* (0)
8 216.239.63.* (6)
9 64.233.161.* (0)
10 64.233.163.* (3)
11 64.233.167.* (6)
12 64.233.171.* (0)
13 64.233.179.* (6)
14 64.233.183.* (3)
15 64.233.185.* (0)
16 64.233.187.* (6)
17 64.233.189.* (6)
18 66.102.1.* (6)
19 66.102.11.* (0)
20 66.102.7.* (6)
21 66.102.9.* (0)
22 66.249.81.* (6)
23 66.249.83.* (0)
24 66.249.85.* (0)
25 66.249.89.* (6)
26 66.249.91.* (3)
27 66.249.93.* (0)
28 72.14.203.* (3)
29 72.14.205.* (0)
30 72.14.207.* (0)
31 72.14.209.* (0)
32 72.14.211.* (6)
33 72.14.215.* (0)
34 72.14.217.* (0)
35 72.14.219.* (6)
36 72.14.221.* (0)
37 72.14.223.* (3)
38 72.14.235.* (6)
39 72.14.253.* (6)
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I know what the problem is. It is not the RSS feeds. Do you by any chance use the font verdana on your site? If you do then that is the reason, Google just updated their standards and every site with the font verdana gets an instant 0 page rank. To fix this you need to switch to arial ASAP!
rofl dude that is the single most RETARED statement I've heard in MONTHS. Thank you for the laugh

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DjSap that's interesting, I Just checked my site and usually its PR5/6 and now its 0 and Verdana is set as the first font of choice in my CSS file. Where did you see google set this standard?
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don't worry, google is still updating... the pr has nothing to do with the rss feeds you have.... relax and check back tomorrow
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DjSap that's interesting, I Just checked my site and usually its PR5/6 and now its 0 and Verdana is set as the first font of choice in my CSS file. Where did you see google set this standard?
I'm almost betting it's a google bug if it is verdana.... kind of creepy that it happened to the three of us!
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of couse when I say someone said something retarded I make a fucking typo... figures lol

btw, I use Verdana on ALL of my sites and no pr changes at all on them
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Here is why I think it may have been the RSS feed.

After we started pulling in news feeds and also blog feeds using blogsearch.google.com I noticed that google's blogsearch started republishing our feeds that we had just pulled from them and then FeedWordPress republihsed them again our our site as new since they had the same seach keywords. Sort of a never ending newsfeed loop.

We instantly corrected this my having our domain name excluded in the new searches.
I do that often with no problem. Although it looks stupid I like it when it happens because it alerts me that my blog/feeds are well listed.


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Mine has gone back and forth like crazy for 2 days.. I am going to just chill and see what happens.. google isnt done dancing just yet.
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I do that often with no problem. Although it looks stupid I like it when it happens because it alerts me that my blog/feeds are well listed.
Now none of our blogs are listed in blogsearch. This is why I first thought that Google had penalized us.
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I'm surprised they did that.. could be another underlying problem.
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of couse when I say someone said something retarded I make a fucking typo... figures lol

btw, I use Verdana on ALL of my sites and no pr changes at all on them
I love ya man, but even I could tell that the verdana comment was sarcastic
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Here are the results

1 toolbarqueries.google.com (6)
2 216.239.37.* (0)
3 216.239.39.* (6)
4 216.239.51.* (6)
5 216.239.53.* (6)
6 216.239.57.* (6)
7 216.239.59.* (0)
8 216.239.63.* (6)
9 64.233.161.* (0)
10 64.233.163.* (3)
11 64.233.167.* (6)
12 64.233.171.* (0)
13 64.233.179.* (6)
14 64.233.183.* (3)
15 64.233.185.* (0)
16 64.233.187.* (6)
17 64.233.189.* (6)
18 66.102.1.* (6)
19 66.102.11.* (0)
20 66.102.7.* (6)
21 66.102.9.* (0)
22 66.249.81.* (6)
23 66.249.83.* (0)
24 66.249.85.* (0)
25 66.249.89.* (6)
26 66.249.91.* (3)
27 66.249.93.* (0)
28 72.14.203.* (3)
29 72.14.205.* (0)
30 72.14.207.* (0)
31 72.14.209.* (0)
32 72.14.211.* (6)
33 72.14.215.* (0)
34 72.14.217.* (0)
35 72.14.219.* (6)
36 72.14.221.* (0)
37 72.14.223.* (3)
38 72.14.235.* (6)
39 72.14.253.* (6)
wirth results like that, there is no way of knowing...my educated guess is that you are about to go from pr6 to pr3
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I know what the problem is. It is not the RSS feeds. Do you by any chance use the font verdana on your site? If you do then that is the reason, Google just updated their standards and every site with the font verdana gets an instant 0 page rank. To fix this you need to switch to arial ASAP!

finally somebody that knows what he's talking about, I use Arial Black on all my sites and they are number 1 on Google for their respective targeted keywords
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I love ya man, but even I could tell that the verdana comment was sarcastic

yeah i know ;) but with SEO and people's weird superstitions you never know
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DjSap that's interesting, I Just checked my site and usually its PR5/6 and now its 0 and Verdana is set as the first font of choice in my CSS file. Where did you see google set this standard?
I'm into the SEO game so this is fresh information, if you are interested I can SEO your site by changing the font to arial for only $95.
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finally somebody that knows what he's talking about, I use Arial Black on all my sites and they are number 1 on Google for their respective targeted keywords
Bloody Boers always abusing the Black somehow
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ahhh.. so it was pure sarcasm...
eitherway, I guess I'll do what everyone else says, and just wait and chill...
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yeah, mine just dropped to 0 as well...
is that verdana thing true?? because that IS what I use..
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Okay, I'm back at 6. Must have been a glitch.

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ahhh.. so it was pure sarcasm...
eitherway, I guess I'll do what everyone else says, and just wait and chill...
It's not sarcasm, let's just say they don't call me mr. page for nothing.
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Here is why I think it may have been the RSS feed.

After we started pulling in news feeds and also blog feeds using blogsearch.google.com I noticed that google's blogsearch started republishing our feeds that we had just pulled from them and then FeedWordPress republihsed them again our our site as new since they had the same seach keywords. Sort of a never ending newsfeed loop.

We instantly corrected this my having our domain name excluded in the new searches.
Look up the word coincidence. You happened to make your change the same time PR was updating.

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yeah, mine just dropped to 0 as well...
is that verdana thing true?? because that IS what I use..
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sure there are other reasons. Wait a few days and see where it is.
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I read a while back that Google banned WordPress sites, could have changed since then, but might be worth looking into.
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I read a while back that Google banned WordPress sites, could have changed since then, but might be worth looking into.
That would be surprising, considering the numbers of wordpress sites I have listed in google.

However, none of my sites use the default template.
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That would be surprising, considering the numbers of wordpress sites I have listed in google.

However, none of my sites use the default template.
http://slashdot.org/articles/05/03/31/196220.shtml

I don't know what happened to it since then, but it was going on for a while. This was for WordPress's website, don't know if it ever hit actual blogs or not.
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not wordpress sites. Wordpress's site. they were abusing the the back links they were getting from all the blogs running it i guess
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not wordpress sites. Wordpress's site. they were abusing the the back links they were getting from all the blogs running it i guess
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ya know, alot of mine went from a 4 or 5 down to a zero as well..

however using:
http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_checker
it shows a mix of 0's and 4-5's for each of my sites..

i am guessing it's just a fluke for right now as they update PR's

especially for a few of my sites where they should have went up as I elminated outgoing links and gained a few incoming high PR links with good anchor text.. (one pr4 site that is currently 0 had nearly 1,000 outgoing links, and was changed to 0 outgoing links over 2 months ago... and google has heavily spidered the site since those changes were made).

maybe we'll have to wait a day or two to see what happens..
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:57 PM   #46
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ahh fuck i hope the person who said font type effects google seo was joking.

i changed to wingdings for all my sites last november
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:58 PM   #47
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I really hope you're wrong and rss is not the reason for this...
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:02 PM   #48
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of couse when I say someone said something retarded I make a fucking typo... figures lol

btw, I use Verdana on ALL of my sites and no pr changes at all on them
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:07 PM   #49
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Wait a little longer. Usually there's some fluctuation during PR update.
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:08 PM   #50
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Comic Sans has been doing wonders for my page rank!
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