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  • RhondaN
    Registered User
    • Jan 2007
    • 40

    #1

    Google dropped our site from PR-6 to PR-0 because of RSS

    We just installed WordPress and FeedWordPress onto our server to grab news items then distribute them to our staff. Yesterday we had a Google PR of 6 which we've had for a long time and today it's at Zero.

    I'm 99% sure that this is why our page rank dropped because some of the news items were from Google News and therefore Google has a syndication link in the news items so they instantly know when someone clicks on a news item where our site is.

    We are going to move Word Press to a different domain on a different IP, but I still have a coupld of concerns...

    1) How long will it take Google to raise our PR back up after we take down the newsfeeds? Are are we permantly screwed by Google?

    2) If we link to the new site and have the site link back to us will that contribute to a lower PR rank?
  • starpimps
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2006
    • 6954

    #2
    1) How long will it take Google to raise our PR back up after we take down the newsfeeds? Are are we permantly screwed by Google?
    --> i think its every 4 months that pr gets updated

    2) If we link to the new site and have the site link back to us will that contribute to a lower PR rank?
    -->no, are u movin it to diff IP?
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    • lopez
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      • Jul 2002
      • 299

      #3
      obviously the rss is not the reason.
      Calm down, then check your PR again tomorrow.

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      • JD
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Sep 2003
        • 22651

        #4
        google doesn't make pr changes over night man. whatever "killed" your PR happened over the last time since the last update

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        • RhondaN
          Registered User
          • Jan 2007
          • 40

          #5
          Yes we will add a new domain onto a different server just for news items for our staff.

          If we use a server that is hosting other domains of ours will it decrease those domains PR rankings?

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          • free4porn
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            • Jun 2005
            • 4654

            #6
            Could be a bug, Google has been acting strangely recently.
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            • OzMan
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2003
              • 9162

              #7
              take a deep breath.....

              PR is shuffling right now so wait until the dust settles before panicking.

              If you are still zero it wasn't RSS that did it. Google doesn't penalize people for using their feeds. You might as well blame whatever shoes you had on today and vow never to wear them again.

              You might have been in the middle of changing your site when the bot visited or whatever..it will most likely be back up soon.

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              • Jace
                FBOP Class Of 2013
                • Jan 2004
                • 35562

                #8
                google pr is CONSTANTLY updated, the toolbar is a export they do every 3-4 months

                check your pr here

                http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_checker

                and tell me what it says in all the servers

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                • FreeHugeMovies
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 14141

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lopez
                  obviously the rss is not the reason.
                  Calm down, then check your PR again tomorrow.
                  Agreed....

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                  • Jace
                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 35562

                    #10
                    Originally posted by OzMan
                    You might as well blame whatever shoes you had on today and vow never to wear them again.
                    hahahaha

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                    • nico-t
                      emperor of my world
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 29901

                      #11
                      listen to the majority here, youre way overreacting and i never heard of a PR change overnight because you got a damn rss feed on your site.... from google themselfs, for lucifers sake!

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                      • RhondaN
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 40

                        #12
                        Here is why I think it may have been the RSS feed.

                        After we started pulling in news feeds and also blog feeds using blogsearch.google.com I noticed that google's blogsearch started republishing our feeds that we had just pulled from them and then FeedWordPress republihsed them again our our site as new since they had the same seach keywords. Sort of a never ending newsfeed loop.

                        We instantly corrected this my having our domain name excluded in the new searches.

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                        • DjSap
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 3869

                          #13
                          I know what the problem is. It is not the RSS feeds. Do you by any chance use the font verdana on your site? If you do then that is the reason, Google just updated their standards and every site with the font verdana gets an instant 0 page rank. To fix this you need to switch to arial ASAP!
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                          • kaori
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                            • Apr 2005
                            • 1569

                            #14
                            yeah, mine just dropped to 0 as well...
                            is that verdana thing true?? because that IS what I use..

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                            • Big_Red
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                              • Jun 2006
                              • 4147

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jace
                              google pr is CONSTANTLY updated, the toolbar is a export they do every 3-4 months

                              check your pr here

                              http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_checker

                              and tell me what it says in all the servers
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                              • OzMan
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                                • Sep 2003
                                • 9162

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Jace
                                hahahaha

                                hell..anyone wearing those shoes deserves a permanent ban

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                                • RhondaN
                                  Registered User
                                  • Jan 2007
                                  • 40

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Jace
                                  google pr is CONSTANTLY updated, the toolbar is a export they do every 3-4 months

                                  check your pr here


                                  and tell me what it says in all the servers
                                  Here are the results

                                  1 toolbarqueries.google.com (6)
                                  2 216.239.37.* (0)
                                  3 216.239.39.* (6)
                                  4 216.239.51.* (6)
                                  5 216.239.53.* (6)
                                  6 216.239.57.* (6)
                                  7 216.239.59.* (0)
                                  8 216.239.63.* (6)
                                  9 64.233.161.* (0)
                                  10 64.233.163.* (3)
                                  11 64.233.167.* (6)
                                  12 64.233.171.* (0)
                                  13 64.233.179.* (6)
                                  14 64.233.183.* (3)
                                  15 64.233.185.* (0)
                                  16 64.233.187.* (6)
                                  17 64.233.189.* (6)
                                  18 66.102.1.* (6)
                                  19 66.102.11.* (0)
                                  20 66.102.7.* (6)
                                  21 66.102.9.* (0)
                                  22 66.249.81.* (6)
                                  23 66.249.83.* (0)
                                  24 66.249.85.* (0)
                                  25 66.249.89.* (6)
                                  26 66.249.91.* (3)
                                  27 66.249.93.* (0)
                                  28 72.14.203.* (3)
                                  29 72.14.205.* (0)
                                  30 72.14.207.* (0)
                                  31 72.14.209.* (0)
                                  32 72.14.211.* (6)
                                  33 72.14.215.* (0)
                                  34 72.14.217.* (0)
                                  35 72.14.219.* (6)
                                  36 72.14.221.* (0)
                                  37 72.14.223.* (3)
                                  38 72.14.235.* (6)
                                  39 72.14.253.* (6)

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                                  • JD
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Sep 2003
                                    • 22651

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DjSap
                                    I know what the problem is. It is not the RSS feeds. Do you by any chance use the font verdana on your site? If you do then that is the reason, Google just updated their standards and every site with the font verdana gets an instant 0 page rank. To fix this you need to switch to arial ASAP!
                                    rofl dude that is the single most RETARED statement I've heard in MONTHS. Thank you for the laugh
                                    Last edited by JD; 01-11-2007, 11:43 AM.

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                                    • zagi
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 1238

                                      #19
                                      DjSap that's interesting, I Just checked my site and usually its PR5/6 and now its 0 and Verdana is set as the first font of choice in my CSS file. Where did you see google set this standard?
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                                      • martinsc
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                                        • Jun 2005
                                        • 27043

                                        #20
                                        don't worry, google is still updating... the pr has nothing to do with the rss feeds you have.... relax and check back tomorrow
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                                        • kaori
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                                          • Apr 2005
                                          • 1569

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by zagi
                                          DjSap that's interesting, I Just checked my site and usually its PR5/6 and now its 0 and Verdana is set as the first font of choice in my CSS file. Where did you see google set this standard?
                                          I'm almost betting it's a google bug if it is verdana.... kind of creepy that it happened to the three of us!

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                                          • JD
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Sep 2003
                                            • 22651

                                            #22
                                            of couse when I say someone said something retarded I make a fucking typo... figures lol

                                            btw, I use Verdana on ALL of my sites and no pr changes at all on them

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                                            • OzMan
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2003
                                              • 9162

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by RhondaN
                                              Here is why I think it may have been the RSS feed.

                                              After we started pulling in news feeds and also blog feeds using blogsearch.google.com I noticed that google's blogsearch started republishing our feeds that we had just pulled from them and then FeedWordPress republihsed them again our our site as new since they had the same seach keywords. Sort of a never ending newsfeed loop.

                                              We instantly corrected this my having our domain name excluded in the new searches.
                                              I do that often with no problem. Although it looks stupid I like it when it happens because it alerts me that my blog/feeds are well listed.


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                                              • HAPPYPEEKERS
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                                                • Feb 2004
                                                • 7566

                                                #24
                                                Mine has gone back and forth like crazy for 2 days.. I am going to just chill and see what happens.. google isnt done dancing just yet.
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                                                • RhondaN
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                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                  • 40

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by OzMan
                                                  I do that often with no problem. Although it looks stupid I like it when it happens because it alerts me that my blog/feeds are well listed.
                                                  Now none of our blogs are listed in blogsearch. This is why I first thought that Google had penalized us.

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                                                  • Adult Search Results
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                                                    • Sep 2006
                                                    • 608

                                                    #26
                                                    I'm surprised they did that.. could be another underlying problem.
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                                                    • Jace
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                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                      • 35562

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                                                      of couse when I say someone said something retarded I make a fucking typo... figures lol

                                                      btw, I use Verdana on ALL of my sites and no pr changes at all on them
                                                      I love ya man, but even I could tell that the verdana comment was sarcastic

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                                                      • Jace
                                                        FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                        • 35562

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by RhondaN
                                                        Here are the results

                                                        1 toolbarqueries.google.com (6)
                                                        2 216.239.37.* (0)
                                                        3 216.239.39.* (6)
                                                        4 216.239.51.* (6)
                                                        5 216.239.53.* (6)
                                                        6 216.239.57.* (6)
                                                        7 216.239.59.* (0)
                                                        8 216.239.63.* (6)
                                                        9 64.233.161.* (0)
                                                        10 64.233.163.* (3)
                                                        11 64.233.167.* (6)
                                                        12 64.233.171.* (0)
                                                        13 64.233.179.* (6)
                                                        14 64.233.183.* (3)
                                                        15 64.233.185.* (0)
                                                        16 64.233.187.* (6)
                                                        17 64.233.189.* (6)
                                                        18 66.102.1.* (6)
                                                        19 66.102.11.* (0)
                                                        20 66.102.7.* (6)
                                                        21 66.102.9.* (0)
                                                        22 66.249.81.* (6)
                                                        23 66.249.83.* (0)
                                                        24 66.249.85.* (0)
                                                        25 66.249.89.* (6)
                                                        26 66.249.91.* (3)
                                                        27 66.249.93.* (0)
                                                        28 72.14.203.* (3)
                                                        29 72.14.205.* (0)
                                                        30 72.14.207.* (0)
                                                        31 72.14.209.* (0)
                                                        32 72.14.211.* (6)
                                                        33 72.14.215.* (0)
                                                        34 72.14.217.* (0)
                                                        35 72.14.219.* (6)
                                                        36 72.14.221.* (0)
                                                        37 72.14.223.* (3)
                                                        38 72.14.235.* (6)
                                                        39 72.14.253.* (6)
                                                        wirth results like that, there is no way of knowing...my educated guess is that you are about to go from pr6 to pr3

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                                                        • Antonio
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 14136

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by DjSap
                                                          I know what the problem is. It is not the RSS feeds. Do you by any chance use the font verdana on your site? If you do then that is the reason, Google just updated their standards and every site with the font verdana gets an instant 0 page rank. To fix this you need to switch to arial ASAP!

                                                          finally somebody that knows what he's talking about, I use Arial Black on all my sites and they are number 1 on Google for their respective targeted keywords

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                                                          • JD
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Sep 2003
                                                            • 22651

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Jace
                                                            I love ya man, but even I could tell that the verdana comment was sarcastic

                                                            yeah i know ;) but with SEO and people's weird superstitions you never know

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                                                            • DjSap
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 3869

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by zagi
                                                              DjSap that's interesting, I Just checked my site and usually its PR5/6 and now its 0 and Verdana is set as the first font of choice in my CSS file. Where did you see google set this standard?
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                                                              • OzMan
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                                                                • Sep 2003
                                                                • 9162

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Antonio
                                                                finally somebody that knows what he's talking about, I use Arial Black on all my sites and they are number 1 on Google for their respective targeted keywords
                                                                Bloody Boers always abusing the Black somehow

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                                                                • edgeprod
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                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                  • 10019

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Weird, RSS keeps bumping mine from 0 to 6.

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                                                                  • kaori
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                                                                    • Apr 2005
                                                                    • 1569

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by DjSap
                                                                    I'm into the SEO game so this is fresh information, if you are interested I can SEO your site by changing the font to arial for only $95.
                                                                    ahhh.. so it was pure sarcasm...
                                                                    eitherway, I guess I'll do what everyone else says, and just wait and chill...

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                                                                    • edgeprod
                                                                      Permanently Gone
                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                      • 10019

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by kaori
                                                                      yeah, mine just dropped to 0 as well...
                                                                      is that verdana thing true?? because that IS what I use..

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                                                                      • RhondaN
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Jan 2007
                                                                        • 40

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Okay, I'm back at 6. Must have been a glitch.
                                                                        Last edited by RhondaN; 01-11-2007, 12:30 PM.

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                                                                        • DjSap
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                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                          • 3869

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by kaori
                                                                          ahhh.. so it was pure sarcasm...
                                                                          eitherway, I guess I'll do what everyone else says, and just wait and chill...
                                                                          It's not sarcasm, let's just say they don't call me mr. page for nothing.
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                                                                          • baddog
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                            • 107089

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by RhondaN
                                                                            Here is why I think it may have been the RSS feed.

                                                                            After we started pulling in news feeds and also blog feeds using blogsearch.google.com I noticed that google's blogsearch started republishing our feeds that we had just pulled from them and then FeedWordPress republihsed them again our our site as new since they had the same seach keywords. Sort of a never ending newsfeed loop.

                                                                            We instantly corrected this my having our domain name excluded in the new searches.
                                                                            Look up the word coincidence. You happened to make your change the same time PR was updating.

                                                                            Originally posted by kaori
                                                                            yeah, mine just dropped to 0 as well...
                                                                            is that verdana thing true?? because that IS what I use..
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                                                                            • Sosa
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                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 40149

                                                                              #39
                                                                              sure there are other reasons. Wait a few days and see where it is.

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                                                                              • HomeFry
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                                                                                • Jun 2006
                                                                                • 1062

                                                                                #40
                                                                                I read a while back that Google banned WordPress sites, could have changed since then, but might be worth looking into.
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                                                                                • RawAlex
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                  • 9465

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by HomeFry
                                                                                  I read a while back that Google banned WordPress sites, could have changed since then, but might be worth looking into.
                                                                                  That would be surprising, considering the numbers of wordpress sites I have listed in google.

                                                                                  However, none of my sites use the default template.

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                                                                                  • HomeFry
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                                                                                    • Jun 2006
                                                                                    • 1062

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                                                    That would be surprising, considering the numbers of wordpress sites I have listed in google.

                                                                                    However, none of my sites use the default template.
                                                                                    http://slashdot.org/articles/05/03/31/196220.shtml

                                                                                    I don't know what happened to it since then, but it was going on for a while. This was for WordPress's website, don't know if it ever hit actual blogs or not.
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                                                                                    • JD
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                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                      • 22651

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by HomeFry
                                                                                      I read a while back that Google banned WordPress sites, could have changed since then, but might be worth looking into.

                                                                                      not wordpress sites. Wordpress's site. they were abusing the the back links they were getting from all the blogs running it i guess

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                                                                                      • HomeFry
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                                                                                        • Jun 2006
                                                                                        • 1062

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                                                                                        not wordpress sites. Wordpress's site. they were abusing the the back links they were getting from all the blogs running it i guess
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                                                                                        • Naughty-Pages
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                                                                                          • Oct 2006
                                                                                          • 4533

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          ya know, alot of mine went from a 4 or 5 down to a zero as well..

                                                                                          however using:
                                                                                          http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_checker
                                                                                          it shows a mix of 0's and 4-5's for each of my sites..

                                                                                          i am guessing it's just a fluke for right now as they update PR's

                                                                                          especially for a few of my sites where they should have went up as I elminated outgoing links and gained a few incoming high PR links with good anchor text.. (one pr4 site that is currently 0 had nearly 1,000 outgoing links, and was changed to 0 outgoing links over 2 months ago... and google has heavily spidered the site since those changes were made).

                                                                                          maybe we'll have to wait a day or two to see what happens..

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                                                                                          • scottybuzz
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                                                                                            • May 2006
                                                                                            • 14799

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            ahh fuck i hope the person who said font type effects google seo was joking.

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                                                                                            • alexg
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                                                                                              • Aug 2003
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I really hope you're wrong and rss is not the reason for this...

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                                                                                              • beemk
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                                                                                                of couse when I say someone said something retarded I make a fucking typo... figures lol

                                                                                                btw, I use Verdana on ALL of my sites and no pr changes at all on them
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Wait a little longer. Usually there's some fluctuation during PR update.

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                                                                                                  • Juilan
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                                                                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                                                                    • 15141

                                                                                                    #50
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