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  • ThumbLord

    #401
    bump for the old wizzard.

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    • Barefootsies
      Choice is an Illusion
      • Feb 2005
      • 42635

      #402
      Originally posted by ThumbLord
      bump for the old wizzard.
      Should You Email Your Members?

      Link1 | Link2 | Link3

      Enough Said.

      "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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      • Paul Markham
        Too old to care
        • Jun 2001
        • 52942

        #403
        Originally posted by tranza
        $5 for 10 days non recurring? How are you going to make money from this??? After processing and hosting costs alone you should be making $1 per member, tops!
        Hosting = 50 cents. It's the average burn on each sign up.
        Processing = 75 cents. Will be getting this down.

        Content I own, program I own, design is used over and over again, set up will take a few hours. When the new CMS is up and running.

        Profit is $3.75, which is what some people make from a paysite charging $30 and supporting affiliates.

        Surfers join one and then come back and join another in a few weeks or they join the full site or they join one of the the sites I upsell from inside the site.

        The plan is in the next few weeks to get the main paysite running on the new CMS. Then we will be launching one $5 site a day. We will be going with a few $2 sites and a few $10 sites.

        We will build it to 100 sites, which was the original plan, that will be all fairly unique and have different content. With 800 videos this should not be a problem. Then we will start to mix the content a bit differently to widen the appeal. Say guys looking for "Big tit lesbian teens" site, rather than "Big tit" or "lesbian Teens".

        Traffic was never a problem, the problem was getting enough sites up and running and the old CMS was built for a content store and could not do it. The new one will.

        It's part of my future plans to offer the surfers more price options.



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        • BradM
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2003
          • 3397

          #404
          Bump for magic join links!

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          • Barefootsies
            Choice is an Illusion
            • Feb 2005
            • 42635

            #405
            Originally posted by BradM
            Bump for magic join links!
            Should You Email Your Members?

            Link1 | Link2 | Link3

            Enough Said.

            "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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            • edgeprod
              Permanently Gone
              • Mar 2004
              • 10019

              #406
              Originally posted by Paul Markham
              It's part of my future plans to offer the surfers more price options.
              And they don't even have to click 'em! Sweet!

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              • hateman
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jul 2003
                • 1623

                #407

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                • Lifer
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 871

                  #408
                  Edge asked me to find out your secret... and tell him

                  I wonder if this thread will be active next month?
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                  • tranza
                    ICQ: 197-556-237
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 57559

                    #409
                    Damn, this thread is still going??
                    I'm just a newbie.

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                    • Paul Markham
                      Too old to care
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 52942

                      #410
                      Originally posted by tranza
                      Damn, this thread is still going??
                      And why not? Paul Markham Teens is doing well and the free teen porn surfer will sign up if you hit him with the price he will pay.

                      As for the $5 sites well I have to be honest and say I still have not got them up. After 3 months of trying to make a CMS work I've given up and will be buying another one. Then we will try again to get the $5 porn sites up and running.

                      I just thank you guys for bumping this thread again.



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                      • SGS
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 5176

                        #411
                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                        And why not? Paul Markham Teens is doing well and the free teen porn surfer will sign up if you hit him with the price he will pay.

                        As for the $5 sites well I have to be honest and say I still have not got them up. After 3 months of trying to make a CMS work I've given up and will be buying another one. Then we will try again to get the $5 porn sites up and running.

                        I just thank you guys for bumping this thread again.
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                        • BradM
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 3397

                          #412
                          Magic join links rock

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                          • BVF
                            Black Vagina Finder
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 13975

                            #413
                            I guess cheap porn sites DON'T work.

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                            • ADL Colin
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 11929

                              #414
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                              • ServerGenius
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2002
                                • 9377

                                #415
                                All the I'm making thousands with paulmarkhamteens.com were bullshit aye?
                                Thanks for pointing that out yourself Paul
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                                • Jet Redux
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Feb 2008
                                  • 276

                                  #416

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                                  • xentech
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2006
                                    • 1405

                                    #417
                                    SIG SPOT! rofl.......

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                                    • Pleasurepays
                                      BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 11913

                                      #418
                                      i have invisible unicorn cross sells for any one with magic join links... hit me up!

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                                      • Snake Doctor
                                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                        • Mar 2001
                                        • 13449

                                        #419
                                        Best thread ever
                                        sig too big

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                                        • usnuke
                                          Registered User
                                          • Mar 2009
                                          • 40

                                          #420
                                          I like these sites ! good job with it !

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                                          • Machete_
                                            WINNING!
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 14579

                                            #421
                                            did this affiliate program ever take off?

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                                            • DamianJ
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jul 2006
                                              • 15808

                                              #422
                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                              I just thank you guys for bumping this thread again.
                                              I imagine you don't this time.

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                                              • Maxi
                                                Registered User
                                                • May 2002
                                                • 233

                                                #423
                                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                Seems they are wrong, as far as I can see.

                                                We stuck up www.5dollarsporn.com/petra a few weeks ago and at first it was very slow. Then we put up the others. http://www.5dollarsporn.com/christine/ http://www.5dollarsporn.com/kay/ http://www.5dollarsporn.com/grace/ and sign ups took off.

                                                OK the traffic is very low as we have not really started to promote but ratios are outstanding. Will be interesting to see how they proceed when we start sending more traffic.

                                                No affiliate program for this site, sorry guys.
                                                Maybe they'll have more success if don't use a trashy name like 5dollarporn..

                                                BTW cheap / pay per download sites would work you guys are just doing it extremely wrong.
                                                Last edited by Maxi; 11-12-2010, 05:23 AM.

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                                                • Paul Markham
                                                  Too old to care
                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 52942

                                                  #424
                                                  Originally posted by Machete_
                                                  did this affiliate program ever take off?
                                                  No we never launched one. I could see after launching the 5 sites that affiliates wouldn't send traffic to $5 sites. Maybe today they will. But back then it's obvious from the posts they didn't like the idea. Doubt if they will like it any more today.

                                                  Which brings up another discussion point. Did the industry form itself to satisfy customers needs or affiliates needs?

                                                  Certainly many thought throwing endless amounts of traffic at cheap content was the route to success. It worked up until Tubes changed the game.

                                                  Thanks for bumping the thread.



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                                                  • Lukke
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Sep 2005
                                                    • 746

                                                    #425
                                                    Its BORING.

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                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                      Too old to care
                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                      • 52942

                                                      #426
                                                      Originally posted by Maxi
                                                      Maybe they'll have more success if don't use a trashy name like 5dollarporn..

                                                      BTW cheap / pay per download sites would work you guys are just doing it extremely wrong.
                                                      Yes not the best name.

                                                      The idea was to build a network of 100+ sites. The customers would buy another site when they felt the need to. $5 a time to download 10 videos. Sure customers, it would build trust with each sale, would love it and the BW is certainly affordable. Today even more so.

                                                      I'm sure the concept would work. Maybe it's time for someone else to try it again.



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                                                      PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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                                                      • DamianJ
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jul 2006
                                                        • 15808

                                                        #427
                                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                        I'm sure the concept would work. Maybe it's time for someone else to try it again.
                                                        You tried it. You failed. Publicly. Now you want someone else to make the same mistakes you did?

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                                                        • CIVMatt
                                                          Amateur Pimpin
                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                          • 13075

                                                          #428
                                                          Cool Paul
                                                          Make easy money with Webcams

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                                                          • will76
                                                            Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                            • May 2003
                                                            • 18037

                                                            #429
                                                            Originally posted by Machete_
                                                            did this affiliate program ever take off?
                                                            what the fuck do you do again besides troll gfy 24/7 ? Why don't you do something business related before you call out other people here who actually do.

                                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                            No we never launched one. I could see after launching the 5 sites that affiliates wouldn't send traffic to $5 sites. Maybe today they will. But back then it's obvious from the posts they didn't like the idea. Doubt if they will like it any more today.

                                                            Which brings up another discussion point. Did the industry form itself to satisfy customers needs or affiliates needs?

                                                            Certainly many thought throwing endless amounts of traffic at cheap content was the route to success. It worked up until Tubes changed the game.

                                                            Thanks for bumping the thread.
                                                            Your model was based on cheap non recurring sales. You wanted to charge $5 for 10 days non recurring. So an affiliate who did a good enough job to get a customer to pull their credit card out and use it, and the credit card actually worked, would only make $2.50 (at 50% revshare) per a signup. People can make more than that from just verified email addresses which is 1000x more easy to sell. So "today" affiliates wont send to this model. I can't see affiliates ever sending to this type of model with this pay structure. It is the "non recurring" that is killing you and your affiliates.
                                                            Last edited by will76; 11-12-2010, 05:52 AM.
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                                                            • Maxi
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • May 2002
                                                              • 233

                                                              #430
                                                              Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                              You tried it. You failed. Publicly. Now you want someone else to make the same mistakes you did?
                                                              I don't think it's a mistake, or that because he failed that it'll never work, how much longer do you think you're going to get away with charging $30 a month for a porn site membership? Do you know how much $30 a month is? That's the price of cable TV or a broadband connection FFS. It's just not worth it, to be honest I'm surprised there's still people paying for it, but then again with all the free porn floating around, they won't be for much longer.

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                                                              • Machete_
                                                                WINNING!
                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 14579

                                                                #431
                                                                Originally posted by will76
                                                                what the fuck do you do again besides troll gfy 24/7 ? Why don't you do something business related before you call out other people here who actually do.
                                                                .
                                                                I can ask you the same questions, you know.

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                                                                • will76
                                                                  Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 18037

                                                                  #432
                                                                  Originally posted by Machete_
                                                                  I can ask you the same questions, you know.
                                                                  fuck off fake nick. You never make business related threads or never offer any help or advice for people. You are a worthless piece of negative shit with nothing better to do with your life. If by some chance you are successful and make money I feel sorry for you because obviously this is the best form of entertainment you can find. Which is sad, if you were successful you should get out and enjoy life some and not spend 24/7 on here. But chances are you are a loser piece of shit with no money so the only entertainment you can afford to amuse yourself it to be a douche ass troll on here. If you think I am remotely the same as you it just shows how fucking delusional you are.

                                                                  You know everyone by name, you know what everyone does and you know about that shit that has happened years ago. it is obvious you been trolling here for a long time under different nicks and had to buy this one because you couldn't make a new account.

                                                                  What do you do, what have you done besides post negative shit on GFY and troll people? Are you DJ? your posts smell like his. Keep posting, your life is really fucking sad, I feel sorry for you. But I will start ignoring your ass going forward.
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                                                                  • FlexxAeon
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                    • 3765

                                                                    #433
                                                                    though i got the joke, i never knew the origin of 'magic join links'.

                                                                    i thank you for bumping this

                                                                    flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

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                                                                    • ottopottomouse
                                                                      She is ugly, bad luck.
                                                                      • Jan 2010
                                                                      • 13177

                                                                      #434
                                                                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                      The idea was to build a network of 100+ sites.
                                                                      Why did you give up after only 4?
                                                                      ↑ see post ↑
                                                                      13101

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                                                                      • Agent 488
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                                        • 22511

                                                                        #435
                                                                        great idea. give the surfer what they want. think this will do well.

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                                                                        • Machete_
                                                                          WINNING!
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 14579

                                                                          #436
                                                                          Originally posted by will76
                                                                          fuck off fake nick. You never make business related threads or never offer any help or advice for people. You are a worthless piece of negative shit with nothing better to do with your life. If by some chance you are successful and make money I feel sorry for you because obviously this is the best form of entertainment you can find. Which is sad, if you were successful you should get out and enjoy life some and not spend 24/7 on here. But chances are you are a loser piece of shit with no money so the only entertainment you can afford to amuse yourself it to be a douche ass troll on here. If you think I am remotely the same as you it just shows how fucking delusional you are.

                                                                          You know everyone by name, you know what everyone does and you know about that shit that has happened years ago. it is obvious you been trolling here for a long time under different nicks and had to buy this one because you couldn't make a new account.

                                                                          What do you do, what have you done besides post negative shit on GFY and troll people? Are you DJ? your posts smell like his. Keep posting, your life is really fucking sad, I feel sorry for you. But I will start ignoring your ass going forward.
                                                                          i'm sorry your life sucks Willy, but stop projecting it onto other people

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                                                                          • minicivan
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jun 2007
                                                                            • 943

                                                                            #437
                                                                            Originally posted by ottopottomouse
                                                                            Why did you give up after only 4?
                                                                            He ran out of magic join buttons. General wizardry take a lot of energy.

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                                                                            • KrissyElise
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Apr 2009
                                                                              • 635

                                                                              #438
                                                                              Originally posted by ottopottomouse
                                                                              Why did you give up after only 4?


                                                                              Ummmmmm. He was too busy swimming in the dough....

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                                                                              • garce
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                • 7103

                                                                                #439
                                                                                Originally posted by Maxi
                                                                                I don't think it's a mistake, or that because he failed that it'll never work, how much longer do you think you're going to get away with charging $30 a month for a porn site membership? Do you know how much $30 a month is? That's the price of cable TV or a broadband connection FFS. It's just not worth it, to be honest I'm surprised there's still people paying for it, but then again with all the free porn floating around, they won't be for much longer.
                                                                                $30 a month is three Naughty America PPV videos through my cable company, whereas that same $30 will get me access to every Naughty America video through their website.

                                                                                Of course, it doesn't help things that NA has a big "Sign Up For $7.95" link at the top of their tour, yet no $7.95 option on their join page.

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                                                                                • 2MuchMark
                                                                                  Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                  • 50969

                                                                                  #440
                                                                                  Originally posted by borked
                                                                                  I see Theo is as aroused by this thread as I am


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                                                                                  • ottopottomouse
                                                                                    She is ugly, bad luck.
                                                                                    • Jan 2010
                                                                                    • 13177

                                                                                    #441
                                                                                    Originally posted by KrissyElise


                                                                                    Ummmmmm. He was too busy swimming in the dough....


                                                                                    I just thought once he had made 4 it would piss easy to knock the rest out. With it all being his own content it's not as if there would be any extra costs.
                                                                                    ↑ see post ↑
                                                                                    13101

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                                                                                    • tabasco
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                                      • 2624

                                                                                      #442
                                                                                      Bump for some classic Paul Markham superior business knowledge

                                                                                      "There is no other way to see a thing except to look at it" - fatfoo

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                                                                                      • B.Barnato
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Nov 2010
                                                                                        • 3618

                                                                                        #443
                                                                                        Originally posted by tabasco
                                                                                        Bump for some classic Paul Markham superior business knowledge

                                                                                        oh my

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                                                                                        • 19teenporn
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Apr 2011
                                                                                          • 3034

                                                                                          #444
                                                                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham

                                                                                          No affiliate program for this site, sorry guys.
                                                                                          WTF?
                                                                                          Ok, i'm off to bed...

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                                                                                          • Paul Markham
                                                                                            Too old to care
                                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                                            • 52942

                                                                                            #445
                                                                                            Originally posted by tabasco
                                                                                            Bump for some classic Paul Markham superior business knowledge

                                                                                            Thanks for the bump.

                                                                                            Yep in my 33 years in the porn business, was in business prior to that, and still making money. What would you like to know about business?\

                                                                                            How to put another person banner in your sig with an affiliate code you have off pat. Do you have any other income?



                                                                                            Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
                                                                                            PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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                                                                                            • tabasco
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                                              • 2624

                                                                                              #446
                                                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                              Yep in my 33 years in the porn business, was in business prior to that, and still making money.
                                                                                              The fact you were working in porn during the golden years and still have to work says it all... I don't know why you brag about that in every thread. I'd be embarrassed by it.
                                                                                              "There is no other way to see a thing except to look at it" - fatfoo

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                                                                                              • DamianJ
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jul 2006
                                                                                                • 15808

                                                                                                #447
                                                                                                Originally posted by tabasco
                                                                                                The fact you were working in porn during the golden years and still have to work says it all... I don't know why you brag about that in every thread. I'd be embarrassed by it.
                                                                                                He has retired you idiot.

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                                                                                                • Rochard
                                                                                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                  • 75733

                                                                                                  #448
                                                                                                  Ladies and gentleman, introducing Paul Markham, our resident marketing genius!

                                                                                                  Herschel Savage
                                                                                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                  • Rochard
                                                                                                    Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                                    • 75733

                                                                                                    #449
                                                                                                    Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                    All your join links are not working.
                                                                                                    WG


                                                                                                    Best. Thread. Ever.
                                                                                                    Herschel Savage
                                                                                                    Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                    • ellablack34
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                                                                                                      • Nov 2013
                                                                                                      • 35

                                                                                                      #450
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