iwantu payment... can anyone beat 32k for december? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

KrisKross · 03-17-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by THEMASKEDRIDER

iwantu, or most any program, is going to think long and hard before banning a 32k/mo. affiliate, and 95% wont do it

Just about everyone he promoted before IWantU canned his account.

pLove · 03-17-2007, 07:47 PM

I can't believe the guy wouldn't try to keep a low profile!

Varius · 03-18-2007, 01:05 PM

I thought we had already replied to this thread but I guess somehow it was overlooked.

We do not accept spam/malware/trojan etc... type of traffic. Anyone send us proof of such affiliates and we will block them.

As for a 32K payment to this affiliate, yes he did receive ONE payment from us but not for that amount (not even close). Due to privacy issues I cannot give away the excat amount but let's just say you need to knock at least 2 digits of that figure

Jman · 03-18-2007, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

I thought we had already replied to this thread but I guess somehow it was overlooked.

We do not accept spam/malware/trojan etc... type of traffic. Anyone send us proof of such affiliates and we will block them.

As for a 32K payment to this affiliate, yes he did receive ONE payment from us but not for that amount (not even close). Due to privacy issues I cannot give away the excat amount but let's just say you need to knock at least 2 digits of that figure

HAHAHAHA good one ;-)

Aussie Rebel · 03-18-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

As for a 32K payment to this affiliate, yes he did receive ONE payment from us but not for that amount (not even close). Due to privacy issues I cannot give away the excat amount but let's just say you need to knock at least 2 digits of that figure

Self Ownage

What an idiot making a post saying you made 32k then the company calls you a liar

zalka · 03-18-2007, 03:36 PM

Good on you iwantyou. Is this guy for real?

bliket · 03-18-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

I thought we had already replied to this thread but I guess somehow it was overlooked.

We do not accept spam/malware/trojan etc... type of traffic. Anyone send us proof of such affiliates and we will block them.

As for a 32K payment to this affiliate, yes he did receive ONE payment from us but not for that amount (not even close). Due to privacy issues I cannot give away the excat amount but let's just say you need to knock at least 2 digits of that figure

1st of all I don't send any spam/malware/trojan traffic.
2nd of all I didn't receive just one payment
3rd of all My account is STILL active and STILL getting sales.

Either you are covering your ass (which is perfect to do, but I really don't care about 99% of these gfy fucks) or you are genuinely an idiot. Maybe you want to check your epass transactions from december 2006?

I stopped promoting iwantu because they weren't paying me enough, but sure as shit my account is still active, I'll even post a current stats page snapshot. How about that?

Varius · 03-18-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bliket

1st of all I don't send any spam/malware/trojan traffic.
2nd of all I didn't receive just one payment
3rd of all My account is STILL active and STILL getting sales.

Either you are covering your ass (which is perfect to do, but I really don't care about 99% of these gfy fucks) or you are genuinely an idiot. Maybe you want to check your epass transactions from december 2006?

I stopped promoting iwantu because they weren't paying me enough, but sure as shit my account is still active, I'll even post a current stats page snapshot. How about that?

Your account is still active (I never said it was blocked above) because far as I know no one sent in proof, however from what I see it currently sends 0 traffic. Without proof we don't block anyone.

However on payments, unless you have a third account under a different name and different epassporte name than in your screenshot, I am correct.

You may contact me if you want to discuss it on ICQ anytime, I can send you the screenshots, I just won't post them here as I wouldn't post any affiliates' data here.

GigoloMason · 03-18-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

Your account is still active (I never said it was blocked above) because far as I know no one sent in proof, however from what I see it currently sends 0 traffic. Without proof we don't block anyone.

Nice to know iwantu turns a blind eye to flagrant fraud. Send proof? Don't you have you own fraud flags?

Varius · 03-18-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GigoloMason

Nice to know iwantu turns a blind eye to flagrant fraud. Send proof? Don't you have you own fraud flags?

Yes and from what I can see from his account when he was using us he barely sent us any traffic/revenue and it was not from any links that were related to trojans or what not.

So am I to assume here Traffic Gigolos will terminate any and all affiliate accounts if I simply call someone out on a board ??

Varius · 03-18-2007, 04:30 PM

To those interested we also maintain a live list of blocked affiliates here:

http://affiliates.iwantu.com/blocked_affiliates.ring

OzMan · 03-18-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

Yes and from what I can see from his account when he was using us he barely sent us any traffic/revenue and it was not from any links that were related to trojans or what not.

So am I to assume here Traffic Gigolos will terminate any and all affiliate accounts if I simply call someone out on a board ??

I gave you the iwantu affiliate id he was using to spam with his trojan bots in this thread on Dec 6 and you said.

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I just saw this thread now...will forward it straight to Lara so she takes action tomorrow morning.

Thanks for the heads up

As for proof...Lara would have seen him in action within a couple minutes investigation and you would have seen his url (that had been reported several times by different people) going to iwantu with one click after you saw the thread.

...and by your blocked affiliates list you haven't canned anyone since September 2006 so you didn't block him in early December or anytime after that despite having easy access to proof and he posts bragging about his Dec earnings in early January.

Given bliket's apparent zero lack of common sense and intelligence I can't imagine he would be good at anything, even photoshop so as much as I like iwantu and as much as I don't like bliket, I hate to say this but I am leaning towards bliket's version of the story so far but really hope I am wrong.

GigoloMason · 03-18-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

Yes and from what I can see from his account when he was using us he barely sent us any traffic/revenue and it was not from any links that were related to trojans or what not.

So am I to assume here Traffic Gigolos will terminate any and all affiliate accounts if I simply call someone out on a board ??

Calling someone out on the board? The guy is running a massive botnet. He admitted to running a massive botnet. There's plenty of evidence supporting that he's running a botnet just in case him admitting it wasn't enough.

Given the source of the traffic I find it hard believe it didn't raise any red flags internally which would have led to his termination irregardless of what's been said on the boards.

Oh well

GigoloMason · 03-18-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

So am I to assume here Traffic Gigolos will terminate any and all affiliate accounts if I simply call someone out on a board ??

And no we wouldn't terminate them; we would investigate the issue in depth and respond accordingly. Had you done any sort of investigation you would have reached the conclusion the traffic was fraudulent, and terminated him. So either you didn't even bother looking into it or you DID look into it and just don't care. Not entirely sure whats worse.

jbizzle · 03-18-2007, 06:31 PM

not bad, I average $25k to $45k a month with another dating site that no one really promotes, if your inetrested, contact me,

Varius · 03-18-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GigoloMason

And no we wouldn't terminate them; we would investigate the issue in depth and respond accordingly. Had you done any sort of investigation you would have reached the conclusion the traffic was fraudulent, and terminated him. So either you didn't even bother looking into it or you DID look into it and just don't care. Not entirely sure whats worse.

We have about 11 different types of automatic fraud detection, plus a few weekly manual checks as well as the processors letting us know when anything appears fishy to their system as well.

I am not saying bliket doesn't run botnets or do anything of the kind, I AM SAYING the minute traffic he sent us was not from those sources.

If you want more proof, think of it this way: if he was sending his chat/botnet traffic to us wouldn't he have sent a lot more than a few hundred clicks ?? Especially if he wasn't being blocked. I would think so, wouldn't you ??

Varius · 03-18-2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan

I gave you the iwantu affiliate id he was using to spam with his trojan bots in this thread on Dec 6 and you said.

The info was passed to Lara at that time and investigated and the traffic he was sending us (which again was a tiny amount) was not coming from any yahoo spam or similar I was told.

He received one payment from us with his two accounts and one payment only and it was less than 1/100th of what he posted here. I just verified it in our Dec payouts in the database and of the few people who were paid out > $30K in Dec, none were even by epassporte method (all were wire). So I guess it is up to you to believe him or believe me

Mr Pheer · 03-18-2007, 06:49 PM

when you can bring in more than $76k from TCG like I've been known to do in a month, then we'll talk. Until then you're just a little boy with a virus.

GigoloMason · 03-18-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

The info was passed to Lara at that time and investigated and the traffic he was sending us (which again was a tiny amount) was not coming from any yahoo spam or similar I was told.

He received one payment from us with his two accounts and one payment only and it was less than 1/100th of what he posted here. I just verified it in our Dec payouts in the database and of the few people who were paid out > $30K in Dec, none were even by epassporte method (all were wire). So I guess it is up to you to believe him or believe me

Regardless of the volume he's pushing to your system all I know is this. When I finally read the other thread logged into yahoo chat. I clicked one of the links that his bots were spamming. I followed that link through the landing page to your program.

This took all of 10 seconds to verify. Every other program he tried to promote reached the same conclusion and canned him, as did his registrars. Given that... meh

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-18-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Dude, go stir shit somewhere else. You had ZERO idea this was an old thread, when you first posted in it, so don't come in here with your goodie-two-shoes attitude. You won't score popularity points with anyone. IWantU will likely address this, they must've missed it first time around.

I have seen this thread a few times... First time the day it was started

Anyway, no need for me to stir anything, the person in question and the people who caught him are doing a great job of that themselves

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-18-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

So I guess it is up to you to believe him or believe me

I believe this...

The account in question that is using bots, is
http://www.iwantu.com/?id=87270003

And it is still active

That info came from this post,
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=159

So tell us why that account is still active and not on the blocked list?

Proof was posted here..
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=152

This is why I stay away from the dating niche... To much BS going on!

Varius · 03-18-2007, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Clark

I believe this...

The account in question that is using bots, is
http://www.iwantu.com/?id=87270003

And it is still active

That info came from this post,
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=159

So tell us why that account is still active and not on the blocked list?

Proof was posted here..
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=152

This is why I stay away from the dating niche... To much BS going on!

I will make sure Lara sees and investigates this again tomorrow morning because truly I don't deal with the affiliate investigations and block him if need be. However I can see he has sent zero traffic and made zero dollars in the past three months, so that isn't truly an 'active account'.

Since it isn't sending us any traffic or sales its not being flagged in any fraud scripts/checks due to that.

To end all this, I'm pretty sure bliket knows if he does start sending us traffic again and it is from a spam-type source that we don't accept, he will not be paid. Simple enough.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-18-2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

To end all this, I'm pretty sure bliket knows if he does start sending us traffic again and it is from a spam-type source that we don't accept, he will not be paid. Simple enough.

Well at least you learned we as webmasters don't like the cheaters and don't like the programs that support them in all this, huh

FreeHugeMovies · 03-18-2007, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

I will make sure Lara sees and investigates this again tomorrow morning because truly I don't deal with the affiliate investigations and block him if need be. However I can see he has sent zero traffic and made zero dollars in the past three months, so that isn't truly an 'active account'.

Since it isn't sending us any traffic or sales its not being flagged in any fraud scripts/checks due to that.

To end all this, I'm pretty sure bliket knows if he does start sending us traffic again and it is from a spam-type source that we don't accept, he will not be paid. Simple enough.

Well said

lazycash · 03-18-2007, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

I will make sure Lara sees and investigates this again tomorrow morning because truly I don't deal with the affiliate investigations and block him if need be. However I can see he has sent zero traffic and made zero dollars in the past three months, so that isn't truly an 'active account'.

Since it isn't sending us any traffic or sales its not being flagged in any fraud scripts/checks due to that.

To end all this, I'm pretty sure bliket knows if he does start sending us traffic again and it is from a spam-type source that we don't accept, he will not be paid. Simple enough.

Are you sure you are aware of all his accounts, because he seems sure that he's still getting sales and you say he isn't. In Dec, when you were made aware of this situation, all you had to do was go into any yahoo chat room and see the url being spammed. He simply redirected the url to different sponsors. As each sponsor banned him, he moved onto others. Seems unlike the others you let him get away with it instead of banning him and sent him a check. You wouldn't have known the traffic was coming from botnet spam unless actually went to the Yahoo chat rooms to see it first hand.

GigoloMason · 03-18-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

To end all this, I'm pretty sure bliket knows if he does start sending us traffic again and it is from a spam-type source that we don't accept, he will not be paid. Simple enough.

He did last time

AK · 03-19-2007, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

when you can bring in more than $76k from TCG like I've been known to do in a month, then we'll talk. Until then you're just a little boy with a virus.

i like that....

zibril · 03-19-2007, 09:01 AM

Congrats, good for u !!!

03-18-2007, 01:05 PM	#53
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	I thought we had already replied to this thread but I guess somehow it was overlooked. We do not accept spam/malware/trojan etc... type of traffic. Anyone send us proof of such affiliates and we will block them. As for a 32K payment to this affiliate, yes he did receive ONE payment from us but not for that amount (not even close). Due to privacy issues I cannot give away the excat amount but let's just say you need to knock at least 2 digits of that figure __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

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03-18-2007, 04:30 PM	#61
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	To those interested we also maintain a live list of blocked affiliates here: http://affiliates.iwantu.com/blocked_affiliates.ring __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

03-17-2007, 07:47 PM	#52
pLove Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 40	I can't believe the guy wouldn't try to keep a low profile!

03-18-2007, 06:31 PM	#65
jbizzle Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 281	not bad, I average $25k to $45k a month with another dating site that no one really promotes, if your inetrested, contact me,

03-18-2007, 06:49 PM	#68
Mr Pheer Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,468	when you can bring in more than $76k from TCG like I've been known to do in a month, then we'll talk. Until then you're just a little boy with a virus.

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