Legal threats...... over Geo-IP promo? - GoFuckYourself.com

Xplicit · 12-23-2006, 09:30 PM

I use Geo-IP tools with several dating and webcam sponsors.

I got this email from a surfer today...

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you have all these postings from Calvary Georgia , the population there is only about 50 people so how can you post all these woman from there it simply not true. Another false advertisment , correct it or will be pursued by D.A.

Now I really really doubt i'll ever hear anything of it again. Besides, the source code of the page makes it obvious it's a sponsors iframe and not data coming from my server.

But, don't you think it would be nice to take small redneck-hick towns out of geo-ip databases? (the ones used for advertising). Its like a dead giveaway that its bullshit. It should list the closest major city or something. Or at least remove any "towns".

stickyfingerz · 12-23-2006, 09:33 PM

Pleasurepays · 12-23-2006, 09:34 PM

why do you think an iframe absolves you from any responsibility for what is shown on YOUR SITE. particularly when you know its BS to begin with.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-23-2006, 09:35 PM

lol...........

bl4h · 12-23-2006, 09:38 PM

You cant get away with the whole remotley hosted thing. The law says that as long as its displayed under your domain, you are responsible. Its fucked up

stickyfingerz · 12-23-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

why do you think an iframe absolves you from any responsibility for what is shown on YOUR SITE. particularly when you know its BS to begin with.

Whether or not its true would be hard to prove lol. Maybe the person signing up used a diff zipcode etc. Intent I would think would have to be proven. Slipper slope no?

pussyluver · 12-23-2006, 09:47 PM

All fucked up, been pulling down those geo links. Looks really fucking stupid! That I can do all on my own.

DaddyHalbucks · 12-23-2006, 09:48 PM

Let's assume the ad is false.

OK.

Where are the damages?

OzMan · 12-23-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit

...But, don't you think it would be nice to take small redneck-hick towns out of geo-ip databases? (the ones used for advertising). Its like a dead giveaway that its bullshit. It should list the closest major city or something. Or at least remove any "towns".

I agree. Displaying the nearest major city would be much more believable rather than displaying any location within 100 miles or database location names that nobody would put as their location.

For example Las Vegas. 100% of results should say "Las Vegas" not 50% or less and the rest showing as Henderson, Boulder City, Spring Valley, Sunrise Manor or some "... historic site"

Pleasurepays · 12-23-2006, 10:33 PM

poopy poo

Pleasurepays · 12-23-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Whether or not its true would be hard to prove lol. Maybe the person signing up used a diff zipcode etc. Intent I would think would have to be proven. Slipper slope no?

the geo ip ads are intentionally deceptive. they are a lie.

xenilk · 12-23-2006, 10:38 PM

That must have been one of the funniest thing I've read all day.

Phil · 12-23-2006, 10:41 PM

Tell him one of those girls is his wife/daughter/mom/

-SECCO- · 12-23-2006, 10:46 PM

but still i believe...these remote towns and villages get more signups than only mayor city geo-ips

Pleasurepays · 12-23-2006, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by -SECCO-

but still i believe...these remote towns and villages get more signups than only mayor city geo-ips

well sure.. when you think you finally found the one girl in town that has all her teeth, you might tend to get excited.

Mr Pheer · 12-23-2006, 10:58 PM

just tell them to go eat a dick

Xplicit · 12-23-2006, 11:46 PM

Upon further review, it says "Girls near <CityName>".

Now, you tell me what counts as 'near' someone?

But, I have seen other sites say "Girls IN <CityName>", that might be a problem.

mattz · 12-23-2006, 11:49 PM

haha I wouldn't worry about it at all

email him back and tell him to shut the fuck up

Xplicit · 12-24-2006, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mattz

haha I wouldn't worry about it at all

Yeah im not, my point was more that some dating & webcam sites geo-ip tools are listing hundreds of profiles in towns with populations of 50 people.

This probably actually hurts signups...... just somethin for you program owners to think about

Matt 26z · 12-24-2006, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Let's assume the ad is false.

OK.

Where are the damages?

What are the damages if a car dealer runs an ad for a great deal on a car they never had for sale? The bait and switch is illegal.

These geo-IP personals ads are something I could see the FTC getting involved with in the future.

who · 12-24-2006, 12:11 AM

will76 · 12-24-2006, 12:11 AM

I wouldn't be surpised at some point in the future if geo-targeting ads come under fire. It really is false advertising. It's nothing major and there are no real damages but it is missleading none the less.

With that being said I do use it myself. But I don't use it like an idiot like most companies do. I always thought the page with 10 girls all from your town looked fake. How many people believe that, even if you are in a major city what are chances that all of the girls are from your town.

here is a free hint for you guys. Say you have 10 girls on the page. Pick the 2 best looking ones and use the person's real location (regular geo targeting). Take 2 more girls and use a random city that is close to them. Take the last 6 girls and just use random big cities.

They will still notice the girls from their city and click on them and it will be 100% more believable. It's still fake, tricking them but they wont be able to notice at least and it converts a lot better.

will76 · 12-24-2006, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

What are the damages if a car dealer runs an ad for a great deal on a car they never had for sale? The bait and switch is illegal.

These geo-IP personals ads are something I could see the FTC getting involved with in the future.

exactly. It is way down on their list of things I am sure. But I wouldn't be surprised if they do something about it one day.

Xplicit · 12-26-2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

exactly. It is way down on their list of things I am sure. But I wouldn't be surprised if they do something about it one day.

All it takes is one bored DA or even Police Chief in some redneck town, trust me, these hicks are conservitive right-wing nuts, with plenty of spare time

escorpio · 12-26-2006, 02:00 PM

In southern Arizona some geo ads list hot babes that live in desert ghost towns.

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pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	All fucked up, been pulling down those geo links. Looks really fucking stupid! That I can do all on my own.

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Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	Upon further review, it says "Girls near <CityName>". Now, you tell me what counts as 'near' someone? But, I have seen other sites say "Girls IN <CityName>", that might be a problem.

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mattz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: AZ Posts: 7,697	haha I wouldn't worry about it at all email him back and tell him to shut the fuck up

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will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	I wouldn't be surpised at some point in the future if geo-targeting ads come under fire. It really is false advertising. It's nothing major and there are no real damages but it is missleading none the less. With that being said I do use it myself. But I don't use it like an idiot like most companies do. I always thought the page with 10 girls all from your town looked fake. How many people believe that, even if you are in a major city what are chances that all of the girls are from your town. here is a free hint for you guys. Say you have 10 girls on the page. Pick the 2 best looking ones and use the person's real location (regular geo targeting). Take 2 more girls and use a random city that is close to them. Take the last 6 girls and just use random big cities. They will still notice the girls from their city and click on them and it will be 100% more believable. It's still fake, tricking them but they wont be able to notice at least and it converts a lot better. __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue Last edited by will76; 12-24-2006 at 12:13 AM..

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