My new NAZI Tshirt... WTF!? - GoFuckYourself.com

Halcyon · 12-23-2006, 10:48 PM

I just picked up some sweet OBEY factory seconds tshirts at the swap meet.

I'm not really a t-shirt guy, but I love Shepard Fairey and these are really soft.

So I like one of the shirts so much, I take a self portait in it.
It's got a cool "Day of the Dead" skull on it and says "defiant since 89."

I posted it online and someone said, "I'd be careful wearing that shirt..."

wikipidia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Division_Totenkopf

"Wal-Mart was selling a t-shirt featuring the Nazi SS Death's Head Battalion skull."
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archi...rt_neo-na.html

Fuuuuuuck.
I'd already fallen in love with the shirt. Can I assign new meaning to it? Or is it's history too strong? Or...did the Obey Company select it AFTER the Target controversy as a intentional statement?

s9ann0 · 12-23-2006, 10:55 PM

nah man just shave your head, lose the pink, get a beer gut and some swastikas tattoo'd on your arms you'll be allrite

Halcyon · 12-23-2006, 10:55 PM

Halcyon · 12-23-2006, 10:56 PM

SS Division Totenkopf ("Death's Head") is also known as 3. SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Totenkopf and 3. SS-Panzer-Division Totenkopf. It was one of the 38 divisions fielded by the Waffen-SS during World War II. Prior to achieving division status, the formation was known as Kampfgruppe Eicke. The division's military record is infamous due to numerous war crimes and the fact that most of the initial enlisted men were SS-Totenkopfverbände (SS concentration camp guards).

The Totenkopf division was numbered with the "Germanic" divisions of the Waffen-SS. These included also the SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler, SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Das Reich, and SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Wiking.

WarChild · 12-23-2006, 10:57 PM

Say what you want about Nazis, at least they did their own thing.

JD · 12-23-2006, 10:58 PM

the vast majority of people would have no clue what the skull means.

gleem · 12-23-2006, 10:59 PM

just show up at the next holocaust survivors convention wearing it, should be good for a few laughs right?

Halcyon · 12-23-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

just show up at the next holocaust survivors convention wearing it, should be good for a few laughs right?

I'm half jewish and have enough lost ancestors to know The Holocaust is not funny.

But it resent them for poisoning culture forever.

gleem · 12-24-2006, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

I'm half jewish and have enough lost ancestors to know The Holocaust is not funny.

But it resent them for poisoning culture forever.

I'm 100% jewish by heritage and a non-practicing atheist by definition, but as twisted as it is, if you can't laugh at your own holocaust, then what good has it done for you? hehe

but seriously, if you want to know if you should wear it, think about what someone who knows what that graphic is would think (group of holocaust survivors) of you.

tony286 · 12-24-2006, 12:39 AM

its a cool looking shirt I bet most wouldn't know that.Also neo nazis dont have pink hair ,so I think your safe from that assumption. lol

TheJimmy · 12-24-2006, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

I'm half jewish and have enough lost ancestors to know The Holocaust is not funny.

....

I was just going to say.......I thought you were also a distant member of the tribe (MOT) like myself...

the history is disturbing but if anyone has the mojo to turn that shit around it's you maing...put some love on it if you like the shirt................ or burn it..........follow your gutt...you've been blessed with an accurate divining stick (and no that's not some gay ref to his pecker you freaking jizzmops)...

Phil · 12-24-2006, 12:53 AM

swastika is not even nazi sign to start with.

PostWhore · 12-24-2006, 12:54 AM

lol
gay nazi

TheJimmy · 12-24-2006, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

swastika is not even nazi sign to start with.

What are you a buddhist, dont' be ghey

LiveDose · 12-24-2006, 01:00 AM

That is a very cool design... I would go ahead and wear it.

Xplicit · 12-24-2006, 01:00 AM

Don't know about the nazi shit, but OBEY's designs kick ass, I have a shitload of obey shirts and hoodies.

Halcyon · 12-24-2006, 01:35 AM

I'm not gonna wear it anymore.

If it reminded one person of the holocaust I would be horrified.

Pleasurepays · 12-24-2006, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon

I'm not gonna wear it anymore.

If it reminded one person of the holocaust I would be horrified.

when i was just a smart assed, punk kid (as opposed to the smart assed punk adult i am now) - i had a shirt that looked like a bands shirt that said "Adolf Hitlers European Tour" with a pic of hitler, map of Europe and listed all the cities and dates etc. like any other shirt for a music group.

anyway.... it was very insensitive... but i didn't really consider that i would be offending anyone

until one day, in a mall in Anchorage Alaska an old man walked up to me with tears in his eyes and asked me how i would feel if i saw my family executed right in front of me as he did. i was speechless. he didn't say anything else.. he just stood there looking straight into my eyes, as i did his. for the first time, it really occured to me how all of the attention getting stupidity could affect and even deeply hurt others. in just a few seconds, he was able to teach me a very valuable life lesson about consideration and respect. i got it. he could see that i got it. i went home and i threw it away.

tASSy · 12-24-2006, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

I'm not gonna wear it anymore.

If it reminded one person of the holocaust I would be horrified.

i'd be horrified. and i'm not even jewish remotely. please please PLEASE do not wear that shirt. if you any decency, you won't.

Warren · 12-24-2006, 01:49 AM

Hal you are a trip! but you aint no nazi

Odin · 12-24-2006, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

I'm not gonna wear it anymore.

If it reminded one person of the holocaust I would be horrified.

True, fuck the other 100 million people who died thanks to Hitler though.

Dagwolf · 12-24-2006, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tASSy

i'd be horrified. and i'm not even jewish remotely. please please PLEASE do not wear that shirt. if you any decency, you won't.

Yeah, I'd have to say it's as bad as wearing your GFY shirt to a day care center...

BusterBunny · 12-24-2006, 02:26 AM

you could bust out some pink paint and make your own dead kennedy's shirt

you can have your cake and tell them to go fuck themselves too ;)

Vigilante · 12-24-2006, 02:40 AM

To bad i am not allowed to wear it in my country

btw: stop crying ....its only a fucking skull.

not one single guy would think about the ss when he looks at this shirt..not even in germany. ... hm besides the jews who cry at everything they can use to sue someone..

gangbangjoe · 12-24-2006, 02:43 AM

continue wearing it man

it looks cool

nazis dressed brown all the time

and god damn i love my brown shirts (btw. im german

)

MontrealPimp · 12-24-2006, 02:52 AM

Awesome Logo and Awesome Shirt, Wear it if you like it, don't care what anyone thinks of you, what about the people who think you are a jobless punk because you have pink hair, do you care what they think, of course you don't, so why care all of a sudden what people think of you, I would think that you would not be a person to give a shit what other people think of the way you dress or look.

Well maybe I am wrong.

gangbangjoe · 12-24-2006, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tASSy

i'd be horrified. and i'm not even jewish remotely. please please PLEASE do not wear that shirt. if you any decency, you won't.

sorry tassy but this is complete BS.

why should we stop wearing clothing which meets our style only because it is connected (in a very far way) to what happend over 50 years ago.

this tshirt is not offensive in ANY way.

MontrealPimp · 12-24-2006, 03:13 AM

"As they had done with the Swastika, the Nazis simply adopted the Totenkopf from the historical tradition and used it for their own purposes, leaving it marked with a stigma that has continued to the present." <-- This is also from wikipedia perhaps the special interest groups out there would like to supress this historical fact as well? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totenkopf

This is a very important factor here, It is not a nazi symbol at all, it is just as harmless as the Iron Cross that appears on a huge percent of clothing worn today by men and women alike such as west coast choppers et all.

If you like the shirt , wear it with pride and do not let any special interest groups or individuals push you to do otherwise.

gangbangjoe · 12-24-2006, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealPimp

"As they had done with the Swastika, the Nazis simply adopted the Totenkopf from the historical tradition and used it for their own purposes, leaving it marked with a stigma that has continued to the present." <-- This is also from wikipedia perhaps the special interest groups out there would like to supress this historical fact as well? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totenkopf

This is a very important factor here, It is not a nazi symbol at all, it is just as harmless as the Iron Cross that appears on a huge percent of clothing worn today by men and women alike such as west coast choppers et all.

If you like the shirt , wear it with pride and do not let any special interest groups or individuals push you to do otherwise.

exactly ! i agree a 100%

even the salutation where they lifted their right hand to the "führer" was copied from rome and the emperors

kmanrox · 12-24-2006, 03:33 AM

my jewish friend wears a black shirt with a white swastika sometimes... i've never seen him smile so much...

gangbangjoe · 12-24-2006, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox

my jewish friend wears a black shirt with a white swastika sometimes... i've never seen him smile so much...

do that in germany and face a few years in prison....

alexg · 12-24-2006, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox

my jewish friend wears a black shirt with a white swastika sometimes... i've never seen him smile so much...

he's either an attention whore, or a moron...

or both

DutchTeenCash · 12-24-2006, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox

my jewish friend wears a black shirt with a white swastika sometimes... i've never seen him smile so much...

I never got the whole making fun part of it anyhow. The whole if you cant laugh bout it part or lighten up part. I know its history and I know times changed, but still.

I would never wear that shirt no.

djroof · 12-24-2006, 07:34 AM

Nice t-shirt man!

DaddyHalbucks · 12-24-2006, 08:00 AM

It seems obscure enough, but don't wear it on your German tour --or to Tel Aviv.

WarChild · 12-24-2006, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by gangbangjoe

exactly ! i agree a 100%

even the salutation where they lifted their right hand to the "führer" was copied from rome and the emperors

Pretty much everything stems from Rome.

Screaming · 12-24-2006, 08:06 AM

Wear it.

It is just a shirt.

Tapaz · 12-24-2006, 08:16 AM

Hey , is possible to buy that T shirt from the net?

Klen · 12-24-2006, 08:21 AM

Well the funny thing is now in Germany,even if you wear anti svastika/nazi symbols,you can still end on court beacuse people doesnt know symbols which you wear on your t-shirt(svastika in garbage,crossed svastika)

Jace · 12-24-2006, 08:22 AM

wear this instead

Gillespie · 12-24-2006, 09:02 AM

Don't you just love Saussure?

Halcyon · 12-24-2006, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vigilante

To bad i am not allowed to wear it in my country

btw: stop crying ....its only a fucking skull.

not one single guy would think about the ss when he looks at this shirt..not even in germany. ... hm besides the jews who cry at everything they can use to sue someone..

Obviously you are a troll, but I have learned that far more people know the skull than I thought.
I've already had several people send me horrible stories about their families in response to seeing the shirt. I can't fault anyone for being sensitive.

The Truth Hurts · 12-24-2006, 09:36 AM

12-24-2006, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace

wear this instead

That's fuckin' hilarious!

MikeVega · 12-24-2006, 09:45 AM

I like that shirt .. it's a shame so many historic symbols got tarnished

davidd · 12-24-2006, 01:32 PM

georgeyw · 12-24-2006, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tASSy

i'd be horrified. and i'm not even jewish remotely. please please PLEASE do not wear that shirt. if you any decency, you won't.

Sorry but that made me laugh...

Hal - I personally had zero clue what the problem was with the shirt until looking at the links. I reckon most if not all would have NFI what it's about. Shirt looks good on you so wear it.

Pipecrew · 12-24-2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

Jeez, i have that same shirt and in THIS color, i had no idea.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 12-24-2006, 02:11 PM

i wouldn't think too deeply inot it personally, i highly doubt you'd ever run across anyone who would tsake notice and be generally offended. it is your own personal chocie what to do though, and if making the decision to not wear the shirt makes you feel better froma moral standpoint, well, god for you. do what you think is best. i personally would go on wearing the shirt, it looks badass to me..

Star 69 · 12-24-2006, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon

I just picked up some sweet OBEY factory seconds tshirts at the swap meet.

I'm not really a t-shirt guy, but I love Shepard Fairey and these are really soft.

So I like one of the shirts so much, I take a self portait in it.
It's got a cool "Day of the Dead" skull on it and says "defiant since 89."

I posted it online and someone said, "I'd be careful wearing that shirt..."

wikipidia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Division_Totenkopf

"Wal-Mart was selling a t-shirt featuring the Nazi SS Death's Head Battalion skull."
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archi...rt_neo-na.html

Fuuuuuuck.
I'd already fallen in love with the shirt. Can I assign new meaning to it? Or is it's history too strong? Or...did the Obey Company select it AFTER the Target controversy as a intentional statement?

You looks cool Halcyon

12-23-2006, 10:48 PM	#1
Halcyon Spread The Pink! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: TrampStampStudios.com Posts: 8,609	My new NAZI Tshirt... WTF!? I just picked up some sweet OBEY factory seconds tshirts at the swap meet. I'm not really a t-shirt guy, but I love Shepard Fairey and these are really soft. So I like one of the shirts so much, I take a self portait in it. It's got a cool "Day of the Dead" skull on it and says "defiant since 89." I posted it online and someone said, "I'd be careful wearing that shirt..." wikipidia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Division_Totenkopf "Wal-Mart was selling a t-shirt featuring the Nazi SS Death's Head Battalion skull." http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archi...rt_neo-na.html Fuuuuuuck. I'd already fallen in love with the shirt. Can I assign new meaning to it? Or is it's history too strong? Or...did the Obey Company select it AFTER the Target controversy as a intentional statement? __________________ HAL on TEDx:

12-23-2006, 10:55 PM	#3
Halcyon Spread The Pink! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: TrampStampStudios.com Posts: 8,609	__________________ HAL on TEDx:

12-23-2006, 10:56 PM	#4
Halcyon Spread The Pink! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: TrampStampStudios.com Posts: 8,609	SS Division Totenkopf ("Death's Head") is also known as 3. SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Totenkopf and 3. SS-Panzer-Division Totenkopf. It was one of the 38 divisions fielded by the Waffen-SS during World War II. Prior to achieving division status, the formation was known as Kampfgruppe Eicke. The division's military record is infamous due to numerous war crimes and the fact that most of the initial enlisted men were SS-Totenkopfverbände (SS concentration camp guards). The Totenkopf division was numbered with the "Germanic" divisions of the Waffen-SS. These included also the SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler, SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Das Reich, and SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Wiking. __________________ HAL on TEDx:

12-23-2006, 10:57 PM	#5
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	Say what you want about Nazis, at least they did their own thing. __________________ .

12-23-2006, 10:59 PM	#7
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	just show up at the next holocaust survivors convention wearing it, should be good for a few laughs right? __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

12-23-2006, 10:55 PM	#2
s9ann0 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 4,873	nah man just shave your head, lose the pink, get a beer gut and some swastikas tattoo'd on your arms you'll be allrite

12-23-2006, 10:58 PM	#6
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	the vast majority of people would have no clue what the skull means.

12-24-2006, 12:39 AM	#10
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	its a cool looking shirt I bet most wouldn't know that.Also neo nazis dont have pink hair ,so I think your safe from that assumption. lol

12-24-2006, 12:53 AM	#12
Phil Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,659	swastika is not even nazi sign to start with. __________________ Ask Phil

12-24-2006, 12:54 AM	#13
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12-24-2006, 01:00 AM	#15
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12-24-2006, 01:00 AM	#16
Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	Don't know about the nazi shit, but OBEY's designs kick ass, I have a shitload of obey shirts and hoodies.

12-24-2006, 01:35 AM	#17
Halcyon Spread The Pink! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: TrampStampStudios.com Posts: 8,609	I'm not gonna wear it anymore. If it reminded one person of the holocaust I would be horrified. __________________ HAL on TEDx:

12-24-2006, 01:49 AM	#20
Warren Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Porn Valley Posts: 2,284	Hal you are a trip! but you aint no nazi __________________ ICQ:208-603-797 www.altdollars.com

12-24-2006, 02:26 AM	#23
BusterBunny perverted justice decoy Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: unborn still in the womb connected via blackberry Posts: 19,291	you could bust out some pink paint and make your own dead kennedy's shirt you can have your cake and tell them to go fuck themselves too ;) __________________ my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died Last edited by BusterBunny; 12-24-2006 at 02:27 AM..

12-24-2006, 02:40 AM	#24
Vigilante Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tätervolk City Posts: 696	To bad i am not allowed to wear it in my country btw: stop crying ....its only a fucking skull. not one single guy would think about the ss when he looks at this shirt..not even in germany. ... hm besides the jews who cry at everything they can use to sue someone..

12-24-2006, 02:43 AM	#25
gangbangjoe Ronin Join Date: May 2004 Location: Live by the code Die by the code Posts: 17,693	continue wearing it man it looks cool nazis dressed brown all the time and god damn i love my brown shirts (btw. im german ) __________________ NichePay - $30 on all trials - Killer Ratios .................................................. Female Ejaculation - Hairy - Shemale Puffy Nipples - Huge Clits - And More! ..................................................

12-24-2006, 02:52 AM	#26
MontrealPimp Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 937	Awesome Logo and Awesome Shirt, Wear it if you like it, don't care what anyone thinks of you, what about the people who think you are a jobless punk because you have pink hair, do you care what they think, of course you don't, so why care all of a sudden what people think of you, I would think that you would not be a person to give a shit what other people think of the way you dress or look. Well maybe I am wrong.

12-24-2006, 03:13 AM	#28
MontrealPimp Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 937	"As they had done with the Swastika, the Nazis simply adopted the Totenkopf from the historical tradition and used it for their own purposes, leaving it marked with a stigma that has continued to the present." <-- This is also from wikipedia perhaps the special interest groups out there would like to supress this historical fact as well? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totenkopf This is a very important factor here, It is not a nazi symbol at all, it is just as harmless as the Iron Cross that appears on a huge percent of clothing worn today by men and women alike such as west coast choppers et all. If you like the shirt , wear it with pride and do not let any special interest groups or individuals push you to do otherwise.

12-24-2006, 03:33 AM	#30
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12-24-2006, 07:34 AM	#34
djroof JuicyDevils.gr Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 25,416	Nice t-shirt man!

12-24-2006, 08:00 AM	#35
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12-24-2006, 08:06 AM	#37
Screaming I can change this!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18,972	Wear it. It is just a shirt. __________________

12-24-2006, 08:16 AM	#38
Tapaz Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CamCity Posts: 1,745	Hey , is possible to buy that T shirt from the net?

12-24-2006, 08:21 AM	#39
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Well the funny thing is now in Germany,even if you wear anti svastika/nazi symbols,you can still end on court beacuse people doesnt know symbols which you wear on your t-shirt(svastika in garbage,crossed svastika)

12-24-2006, 08:22 AM	#40
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	wear this instead

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12-24-2006, 09:45 AM	#45
MikeVega Porntrepreneur Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York Posts: 12,788	I like that shirt .. it's a shame so many historic symbols got tarnished __________________ Mike Vega-ICQ:253868499-AIM:mikeydicevega

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12-24-2006, 02:11 PM	#49
Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	i wouldn't think too deeply inot it personally, i highly doubt you'd ever run across anyone who would tsake notice and be generally offended. it is your own personal chocie what to do though, and if making the decision to not wear the shirt makes you feel better froma moral standpoint, well, god for you. do what you think is best. i personally would go on wearing the shirt, it looks badass to me..