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Halcyon 12-23-2006 10:48 PM

My new NAZI Tshirt... WTF!?
 
I just picked up some sweet OBEY factory seconds tshirts at the swap meet.

I'm not really a t-shirt guy, but I love Shepard Fairey and these are really soft.

So I like one of the shirts so much, I take a self portait in it.
It's got a cool "Day of the Dead" skull on it and says "defiant since 89."

I posted it online and someone said, "I'd be careful wearing that shirt..."

wikipidia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Division_Totenkopf

"Wal-Mart was selling a t-shirt featuring the Nazi SS Death's Head Battalion skull."
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archi...rt_neo-na.html

Fuuuuuuck.
I'd already fallen in love with the shirt. Can I assign new meaning to it? Or is it's history too strong? Or...did the Obey Company select it AFTER the Target controversy as a intentional statement?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/159/3...d2904c20_b.jpg

s9ann0 12-23-2006 10:55 PM

nah man just shave your head, lose the pink, get a beer gut and some swastikas tattoo'd on your arms you'll be allrite

Halcyon 12-23-2006 10:55 PM

http://www.bentcorner.com/wp-content.../Totenkopf.jpg

Halcyon 12-23-2006 10:56 PM

SS Division Totenkopf ("Death's Head") is also known as 3. SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Totenkopf and 3. SS-Panzer-Division Totenkopf. It was one of the 38 divisions fielded by the Waffen-SS during World War II. Prior to achieving division status, the formation was known as Kampfgruppe Eicke. The division's military record is infamous due to numerous war crimes and the fact that most of the initial enlisted men were SS-Totenkopfverbände (SS concentration camp guards).

The Totenkopf division was numbered with the "Germanic" divisions of the Waffen-SS. These included also the SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler, SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Das Reich, and SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Wiking.

WarChild 12-23-2006 10:57 PM

Say what you want about Nazis, at least they did their own thing.

JD 12-23-2006 10:58 PM

the vast majority of people would have no clue what the skull means.

gleem 12-23-2006 10:59 PM

just show up at the next holocaust survivors convention wearing it, should be good for a few laughs right?

Halcyon 12-23-2006 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 11584306)
just show up at the next holocaust survivors convention wearing it, should be good for a few laughs right?

I'm half jewish and have enough lost ancestors to know The Holocaust is not funny.

But it resent them for poisoning culture forever.

gleem 12-24-2006 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 11584335)
I'm half jewish and have enough lost ancestors to know The Holocaust is not funny.

But it resent them for poisoning culture forever.

I'm 100% jewish by heritage and a non-practicing atheist by definition, but as twisted as it is, if you can't laugh at your own holocaust, then what good has it done for you? hehe

but seriously, if you want to know if you should wear it, think about what someone who knows what that graphic is would think (group of holocaust survivors) of you.

tony286 12-24-2006 12:39 AM

its a cool looking shirt I bet most wouldn't know that.Also neo nazis dont have pink hair ,so I think your safe from that assumption. lol

TheJimmy 12-24-2006 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 11584335)
I'm half jewish and have enough lost ancestors to know The Holocaust is not funny.

....

I was just going to say.......I thought you were also a distant member of the tribe (MOT) like myself...


the history is disturbing but if anyone has the mojo to turn that shit around it's you maing...put some love on it if you like the shirt................ or burn it..........follow your gutt...you've been blessed with an accurate divining stick (and no that's not some gay ref to his pecker you freaking jizzmops)...

:pimp

Phil 12-24-2006 12:53 AM

swastika is not even nazi sign to start with.

PostWhore 12-24-2006 12:54 AM

lol
gay nazi

TheJimmy 12-24-2006 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 11584828)
swastika is not even nazi sign to start with.

What are you a buddhist, dont' be ghey

:winkwink:

LiveDose 12-24-2006 01:00 AM

That is a very cool design... I would go ahead and wear it.

Xplicit 12-24-2006 01:00 AM

Don't know about the nazi shit, but OBEY's designs kick ass, I have a shitload of obey shirts and hoodies.

Halcyon 12-24-2006 01:35 AM

I'm not gonna wear it anymore.

If it reminded one person of the holocaust I would be horrified.

Pleasurepays 12-24-2006 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 11584984)
I'm not gonna wear it anymore.

If it reminded one person of the holocaust I would be horrified.

when i was just a smart assed, punk kid (as opposed to the smart assed punk adult i am now) - i had a shirt that looked like a bands shirt that said "Adolf Hitlers European Tour" with a pic of hitler, map of Europe and listed all the cities and dates etc. like any other shirt for a music group.

anyway.... it was very insensitive... but i didn't really consider that i would be offending anyone

until one day, in a mall in Anchorage Alaska an old man walked up to me with tears in his eyes and asked me how i would feel if i saw my family executed right in front of me as he did. i was speechless. he didn't say anything else.. he just stood there looking straight into my eyes, as i did his. for the first time, it really occured to me how all of the attention getting stupidity could affect and even deeply hurt others. in just a few seconds, he was able to teach me a very valuable life lesson about consideration and respect. i got it. he could see that i got it. i went home and i threw it away.

tASSy 12-24-2006 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 11584984)
I'm not gonna wear it anymore.

If it reminded one person of the holocaust I would be horrified.

i'd be horrified. and i'm not even jewish remotely. please please PLEASE do not wear that shirt. if you any decency, you won't.


Warren 12-24-2006 01:49 AM

Hal you are a trip! but you aint no nazi :1orglaugh

Odin 12-24-2006 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 11584984)
I'm not gonna wear it anymore.

If it reminded one person of the holocaust I would be horrified.

True, fuck the other 100 million people who died thanks to Hitler though.

Dagwolf 12-24-2006 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tASSy (Post 11585019)


i'd be horrified. and i'm not even jewish remotely. please please PLEASE do not wear that shirt. if you any decency, you won't.


Yeah, I'd have to say it's as bad as wearing your GFY shirt to a day care center...

BusterBunny 12-24-2006 02:26 AM

you could bust out some pink paint and make your own dead kennedy's shirt :2 cents:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-...eadkennedy.jpg

you can have your cake and tell them to go fuck themselves too ;)

Vigilante 12-24-2006 02:40 AM

To bad i am not allowed to wear it in my country :(


btw: stop crying ....its only a fucking skull.

not one single guy would think about the ss when he looks at this shirt..not even in germany. ... hm besides the jews who cry at everything they can use to sue someone..

gangbangjoe 12-24-2006 02:43 AM

continue wearing it man

it looks cool



nazis dressed brown all the time

and god damn i love my brown shirts (btw. im german :1orglaugh)

MontrealPimp 12-24-2006 02:52 AM

Awesome Logo and Awesome Shirt, Wear it if you like it, don't care what anyone thinks of you, what about the people who think you are a jobless punk because you have pink hair, do you care what they think, of course you don't, so why care all of a sudden what people think of you, I would think that you would not be a person to give a shit what other people think of the way you dress or look.

Well maybe I am wrong.

gangbangjoe 12-24-2006 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tASSy (Post 11585019)


i'd be horrified. and i'm not even jewish remotely. please please PLEASE do not wear that shirt. if you any decency, you won't.



sorry tassy but this is complete BS.

why should we stop wearing clothing which meets our style only because it is connected (in a very far way) to what happend over 50 years ago.


this tshirt is not offensive in ANY way.

MontrealPimp 12-24-2006 03:13 AM

"As they had done with the Swastika, the Nazis simply adopted the Totenkopf from the historical tradition and used it for their own purposes, leaving it marked with a stigma that has continued to the present." <-- This is also from wikipedia perhaps the special interest groups out there would like to supress this historical fact as well? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totenkopf

This is a very important factor here, It is not a nazi symbol at all, it is just as harmless as the Iron Cross that appears on a huge percent of clothing worn today by men and women alike such as west coast choppers et all.

If you like the shirt , wear it with pride and do not let any special interest groups or individuals push you to do otherwise.

gangbangjoe 12-24-2006 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealPimp (Post 11585286)
"As they had done with the Swastika, the Nazis simply adopted the Totenkopf from the historical tradition and used it for their own purposes, leaving it marked with a stigma that has continued to the present." <-- This is also from wikipedia perhaps the special interest groups out there would like to supress this historical fact as well? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totenkopf

This is a very important factor here, It is not a nazi symbol at all, it is just as harmless as the Iron Cross that appears on a huge percent of clothing worn today by men and women alike such as west coast choppers et all.

If you like the shirt , wear it with pride and do not let any special interest groups or individuals push you to do otherwise.



exactly ! i agree a 100%


even the salutation where they lifted their right hand to the "führer" was copied from rome and the emperors

kmanrox 12-24-2006 03:33 AM

my jewish friend wears a black shirt with a white swastika sometimes... i've never seen him smile so much...

gangbangjoe 12-24-2006 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 11585361)
my jewish friend wears a black shirt with a white swastika sometimes... i've never seen him smile so much...


do that in germany and face a few years in prison....

alexg 12-24-2006 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 11585361)
my jewish friend wears a black shirt with a white swastika sometimes... i've never seen him smile so much...

he's either an attention whore, or a moron...

or both

DutchTeenCash 12-24-2006 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 11585361)
my jewish friend wears a black shirt with a white swastika sometimes... i've never seen him smile so much...

I never got the whole making fun part of it anyhow. The whole if you cant laugh bout it part or lighten up part. I know its history and I know times changed, but still.

I would never wear that shirt no.

djroof 12-24-2006 07:34 AM

Nice t-shirt man!

DaddyHalbucks 12-24-2006 08:00 AM

It seems obscure enough, but don't wear it on your German tour --or to Tel Aviv.

WarChild 12-24-2006 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gangbangjoe (Post 11585301)
exactly ! i agree a 100%


even the salutation where they lifted their right hand to the "führer" was copied from rome and the emperors

Pretty much everything stems from Rome. :2 cents:

Screaming 12-24-2006 08:06 AM

Wear it.

It is just a shirt.

Tapaz 12-24-2006 08:16 AM

Hey , is possible to buy that T shirt from the net?

Klen 12-24-2006 08:21 AM

Well the funny thing is now in Germany,even if you wear anti svastika/nazi symbols,you can still end on court beacuse people doesnt know symbols which you wear on your t-shirt(svastika in garbage,crossed svastika)

Jace 12-24-2006 08:22 AM

wear this instead

http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a603/a603.gif

Gillespie 12-24-2006 09:02 AM

Don't you just love Saussure?

Halcyon 12-24-2006 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vigilante (Post 11585200)
To bad i am not allowed to wear it in my country :(


btw: stop crying ....its only a fucking skull.

not one single guy would think about the ss when he looks at this shirt..not even in germany. ... hm besides the jews who cry at everything they can use to sue someone..

Obviously you are a troll, but I have learned that far more people know the skull than I thought.
I've already had several people send me horrible stories about their families in response to seeing the shirt. I can't fault anyone for being sensitive.

The Truth Hurts 12-24-2006 09:36 AM

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/...they_live5.jpg

X37375787 12-24-2006 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11586108)

That's fuckin' hilarious! :1orglaugh

MikeVega 12-24-2006 09:45 AM

I like that shirt .. it's a shame so many historic symbols got tarnished

http://www.glass5.com/Buddha%20in%20...n-Swastika.JPG

davidd 12-24-2006 01:32 PM

http://indymedia.nl/img/2006/05/36575.jpg

georgeyw 12-24-2006 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tASSy (Post 11585019)


i'd be horrified. and i'm not even jewish remotely. please please PLEASE do not wear that shirt. if you any decency, you won't.


:1orglaugh :error :helpme

Sorry but that made me laugh...

Hal - I personally had zero clue what the problem was with the shirt until looking at the links. I reckon most if not all would have NFI what it's about. Shirt looks good on you so wear it.

Pipecrew 12-24-2006 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 11584284)

Jeez, i have that same shirt and in THIS color, i had no idea.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-24-2006 02:11 PM

i wouldn't think too deeply inot it personally, i highly doubt you'd ever run across anyone who would tsake notice and be generally offended. it is your own personal chocie what to do though, and if making the decision to not wear the shirt makes you feel better froma moral standpoint, well, god for you. do what you think is best. i personally would go on wearing the shirt, it looks badass to me..

Star 69 12-24-2006 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 11584255)
I just picked up some sweet OBEY factory seconds tshirts at the swap meet.

I'm not really a t-shirt guy, but I love Shepard Fairey and these are really soft.

So I like one of the shirts so much, I take a self portait in it.
It's got a cool "Day of the Dead" skull on it and says "defiant since 89."

I posted it online and someone said, "I'd be careful wearing that shirt..."

wikipidia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Division_Totenkopf

"Wal-Mart was selling a t-shirt featuring the Nazi SS Death's Head Battalion skull."
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archi...rt_neo-na.html

Fuuuuuuck.
I'd already fallen in love with the shirt. Can I assign new meaning to it? Or is it's history too strong? Or...did the Obey Company select it AFTER the Target controversy as a intentional statement?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/159/3...d2904c20_b.jpg

You looks cool Halcyon


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