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Poietes · 12-23-2006, 12:56 AM

?The KINGDOM of the FATHER is like someone who wanted to kill a powerful man. He drew the sword in his own house and thrust it into the wall so that he would know if his hand would be strong enough. Then he killed the powerful one.?

Whoever can interpret the meaning of this passage will be granted padme.

scouser · 12-23-2006, 01:03 AM

Did jesus say that ;)?

Poietes · 12-23-2006, 01:34 AM

Yeah

Wikipedia Dot Com >Gospel of Thomas

Poietes · 12-23-2006, 01:35 AM

sorry, not allowed to post a link apparently.

GoTigers · 12-23-2006, 05:39 AM

what does poietes means?

Poietes · 12-23-2006, 10:25 AM

Wikipedia Dot Org (lol not dot com as stated above) > History of creativity

?The ancient Greeks had no terms corresponding to "to create" or "creator." The expression "poiein" ("to make") sufficed. And even that was not extended to art in general, but only to poiesis (poetry) and to the poietes (poet, or "maker") who made it. Plato asks in The Republic, "Will we say, of a painter, that he makes something?" and answers, "Certainly not, he merely imitates." To the ancient Greeks, the concept of a creator and of creativity implied freedom of action, whereas the Greeks' concept of art involved subjection to laws and rules. Art (in Greek, "techne") was "the making of things, according to rules." It contained no creativity, and it would have been ? in the Greeks' view ? a bad state of affairs if it had.?

SlamDesigns · 12-23-2006, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poietes

?The KINGDOM of the FATHER is like someone who wanted to kill a powerful man. He drew the sword in his own house and thrust it into the wall so that he would know if his hand would be strong enough. Then he killed the powerful one.?

Whoever can interpret the meaning of this passage will be granted padme.

Padme? Is that like a reach around?

Poietes · 12-23-2006, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlamDesigns

Padme? Is that like a reach around?

lol

I will give you a hint, its not the chick from Star Wars.

Poietes · 12-23-2006, 11:34 AM

Here is my take on it, but I was hoping for some insight on what others thought.

The sword represents other people?s ideas/thoughts/beliefs outside of your own. The thrusting of the sword into the walls of his own house represents one taking in those outside beliefs and contrasting them with ones own to see how they measure up.

Once this has been done, the person arrives at true wisdom by mending the two opposing view points to create a fusion of the two and thus can now kill the powerful one (deception/falsehood).

Poietes · 12-23-2006, 10:41 PM

?If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.?

RD in the house baby!

Poietes · 12-23-2006, 10:42 PM

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Poietes · 12-23-2006, 11:36 PM

Whoever said having a split personality constitutes as a mental problem?

Problem, shit

I say it?s the fucking solution???.

Been talking to myself all day.

In 3?s company

?Experiment with this like it's different 'cause it is
They make the norm, and it's not what I live
I give my all and want to ball like y'all
But I can only spit my shit, you get it??

Grouch- Simple Man

Poietes · 12-24-2006, 12:51 PM

Merry Christmas all

12-23-2006, 12:56 AM	#1
Poietes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	In the spirit of Christmas a riddle ?The KINGDOM of the FATHER is like someone who wanted to kill a powerful man. He drew the sword in his own house and thrust it into the wall so that he would know if his hand would be strong enough. Then he killed the powerful one.? Whoever can interpret the meaning of this passage will be granted padme.

12-23-2006, 10:42 PM	#11
Poietes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	AND NOW A WORD FROM OUR SPONSORS! “You better check yourself before you wreck yourself Short Dog's in the muthafuckin house, bitch” D-Nice Last edited by Poietes; 12-23-2006 at 10:44 PM..

12-23-2006, 01:03 AM	#2
scouser marketer. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: bcn Posts: 2,280	Did jesus say that ;)?

12-23-2006, 01:34 AM	#3
Poietes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	Yeah Wikipedia Dot Com >Gospel of Thomas

12-23-2006, 01:35 AM	#4
Poietes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	sorry, not allowed to post a link apparently.

12-23-2006, 05:39 AM	#5
GoTigers Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 50	what does poietes means?

12-23-2006, 10:25 AM	#6
Poietes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	Wikipedia Dot Org (lol not dot com as stated above) > History of creativity ?The ancient Greeks had no terms corresponding to "to create" or "creator." The expression "poiein" ("to make") sufficed. And even that was not extended to art in general, but only to poiesis (poetry) and to the poietes (poet, or "maker") who made it. Plato asks in The Republic, "Will we say, of a painter, that he makes something?" and answers, "Certainly not, he merely imitates." To the ancient Greeks, the concept of a creator and of creativity implied freedom of action, whereas the Greeks' concept of art involved subjection to laws and rules. Art (in Greek, "techne") was "the making of things, according to rules." It contained no creativity, and it would have been ? in the Greeks' view ? a bad state of affairs if it had.?

12-23-2006, 11:34 AM	#9
Poietes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	Here is my take on it, but I was hoping for some insight on what others thought. The sword represents other people?s ideas/thoughts/beliefs outside of your own. The thrusting of the sword into the walls of his own house represents one taking in those outside beliefs and contrasting them with ones own to see how they measure up. Once this has been done, the person arrives at true wisdom by mending the two opposing view points to create a fusion of the two and thus can now kill the powerful one (deception/falsehood).

12-23-2006, 10:41 PM	#10
Poietes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	?If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.? RD in the house baby!

12-23-2006, 11:36 PM	#12
Poietes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	Whoever said having a split personality constitutes as a mental problem? Problem, shit I say it?s the fucking solution???. Been talking to myself all day. In 3?s company ?Experiment with this like it's different 'cause it is They make the norm, and it's not what I live I give my all and want to ball like y'all But I can only spit my shit, you get it?? Grouch- Simple Man

12-24-2006, 12:51 PM	#13
Poietes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	Merry Christmas all