The Mike South Curse.................

[EroticistFilms]

3 years ago, I made my first movie, Alternative Worldz: Atlanta XXX for Adam & Eve.



In the course of making friends with several folks living there (Jace, Tony, The Consumption Junction guys, etc.), I also got to know Mike South.

I was having a group discussion and started talking about by film making experiences when Mike said, ?Blah, Blah, Blah?. Talk to me about film making after you?re an AVN Award winner like me.

I had never been verbally bitch slapped like that in my adult life and have spent many hours praying that someday I may win an award so I could get this rotting, stinking Mike South albatross from around my neck, and once again walk proud amongst my fellow pornographers.

This year I?ve been nominated for 4 awards. Oh please Jesus and Santa, hear my wish????.

[After Shock Media]

Well have you paid the right people yet?

[reynold]

Congrats on the nomination and goodluck.

[john t bone]

I have about 8 or 10 AVN awards maybe more I used to get them alot when I played the game, even got a Hall of Fame one. Then one day I shot an intro to one of my movies with me pissing on my awards, I have never got another one in more than 10 years. Honestly they are not worth the brown nosing you have to do to get one and Mike South is the sleaziest most self-opinionated shit bag to ever....... just make money and be happy

[tony286]

congrats on your film being nominated but I think he meant you personally. lol

[Vegas Ken]

Good luck at the awards show!

[EroticistFilms]

Originally Posted by john t bone

I have about 8 or 10 AVN awards maybe more I used to get them alot when I played the game, even got a Hall of Fame one. Then one day I shot an intro to one of my movies with me pissing on my awards, I have never got another one in more than 10 years. Honestly they are not worth the brown nosing you have to do to get one and Mike South is the sleaziest most self-opinionated shit bag to ever....... just make money and be happy

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I bet that went over like a fart in church!

Yeah, this of course is just to Razz, my boy Mike, who IS very opinionated, but I love him nevertheless......

[Barefootsies]

[MandyBlake]

congrats on the nominations!

[Jace]

congrats Ron

weren't you supposed to be coming to Atlanta soon?

[Spunky]

Good luck to ya

[sicone]

congrats on the nominations, best of luck to ya

[Monique Niccole]

Originally Posted by john t bone

Then one day I shot an intro to one of my movies with me pissing on my awards, I have never got another one in more than 10 years.

LOL...that'll do it

[Far-L]

I like Mike - he is a genuine character but I appreciate that about him... however, I always kind of laugh when Mike takes so much credit for that award.

It was our idea for the series, our idea for the name, our bringing Mike up from amateur producer you never heard of to his own series based on our guidelines and some serious stumping by our always amazing publicist Stefanie.

He shot some decent amateur stuff but all that hoopla went to his head faster than the bullet that killed Jackson. Ask the superstar award winning director about what happened when he left us to work with Rob Black and Tom Byron... and he had to learn a bit of humility.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by john t bone

I have about 8 or 10 AVN awards maybe more I used to get them alot when I played the game, even got a Hall of Fame one. Then one day I shot an intro to one of my movies with me pissing on my awards, I have never got another one in more than 10 years. Honestly they are not worth the brown nosing you have to do to get one and Mike South is the sleaziest most self-opinionated shit bag to ever....... just make money and be happy

Maybe you didn't get anything because your movies sucked more and more as everyone elses got better and better and the fact that you wanted your talent to work condomless with known iv drug users like jerry butler.

Since Mike never asked anyone to do anything so irresponsible I think that makes you the sleaziest most opinionated shit bag ever plus a lame ass excuse for a human being to boot.

[tony286]

Mike is a really good guy I consider him a close friend and mentor.

[mikesouth]

LOL I have been called a sleazebag by John T Bone...My life is now complete

Hey I never fucked anyone who worked for me by bouncing a check or not payin em...If that's what it takes to make me an upstanding porner like John T Bone...I will remain a sleazebag

[mikesouth]

when I left homegrown I went to elegant angel where I worked for Greg Alves (Not Tom Byron and Rob Black) I had two very successful releases that made me more money each than all my homegrown releases COMBINED.

However when Greg left Elegant Patrick went into cost cutting mode and the offer I was made to stay at Elegant Angel wasn't worth it.

I never even considered going to extreme I never had any respect for Rob Black nor did I have any for Tom Byron who was nothing but Blacks bitch...Tommy should have owned Rob instead of the other way around....

And thats the way it was...

[rodney25]

Congrats on the nominations, Ron!

[mikesouth]

BTW Ron...You didnt really take it that seriously did you?

I know you joke about it a lot and for what its worth man...Im pullin for ya to win.

[tony286]

Ron when are you coming to visit Atl would be nice to see you

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

when I left homegrown I went to elegant angel where I worked for Greg Alves (Not Tom Byron and Rob Black) I had two very successful releases that made me more money each than all my homegrown releases COMBINED.

However when Greg left Elegant Patrick went into cost cutting mode and the offer I was made to stay at Elegant Angel wasn't worth it.

I never even considered going to extreme I never had any respect for Rob Black nor did I have any for Tom Byron who was nothing but Blacks bitch...Tommy should have owned Rob instead of the other way around....

And thats the way it was...

lol, ummm.... is that why you said you wanted to come back to us after a year of them not releasing anything by you?

btw... Greg didn't carry you over to his new gig so i guess that was not necessarily a two way street. How many noms, much less rewards, have you received since then?

pay respect to where you came from mate because I assure you it will help a lot more for where you are going...

and just so we are on the same page... when anyone insinuates that we are cheap we take it as a compliment.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

BTW Ron...You didnt really take it that seriously did you?

I know you joke about it a lot and for what its worth man...Im pullin for ya to win.

and just to let you know I am just giving you a good ol' boy style bbq roasting myself...so don't take me too seriously either. I do respect what you went on to do a great deal.

Merry XXXmas - see you in vegas!

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Far-L

lol, ummm.... is that why you said you wanted to come back to us after a year of them not releasing anything by you?

btw... Greg didn't carry you over to his new gig so i guess that was not necessarily a two way street. How many noms, much less rewards, have you received since then?

pay respect to where you came from mate because I assure you it will help a lot more for where you are going...

and just so we are on the same page... when anyone insinuates that we are cheap we take it as a compliment.

I dont think Mike would of said anything if you didnt feel the need to stroke yourself and take the credit for his award.

[mikesouth]

hey far-l you know me i dont take anything personally actually I spoke with Greg about going to Metro when he left Elegant, but I chose a different direction, in the long run it was the right decision.

I do give you guys credit for gettin me started I have always said you came back and said we want you to shoot a series based on your character and thats what I did.

Actually this whole thing is a bit overblown because as Ron well knows and as you do, while an AVN Award is a nice accolade.....it isn't worth anything monetarily and outside the biz its meaningless (even inside for the most part)

But to answer your question I have had LOTS of noms since leaving Homegrown...matter of fact almost everything I have released has copped a nom or two but thats all worthless...I learned quickly that the real money is on the net not the video end, and that is where I have cncentrated my efforts.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Actually this whole thing is a bit overblown because as Ron well knows and as you do, while an AVN Award is a nice accolade.....it isn't worth anything monetarily and outside the biz its meaningless (even inside for the most part)

come on mike, don't burst Ron's bubble...he is award virgin

let him have his moment in the sun

i can't WAIT for the acceptance speech though...haha

Ron, be sure and thank my penis

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by tony404

I dont think Mike would of said anything if you didnt feel the need to stroke yourself and take the credit for his award.

Did mike send you the pom poms you always wanted for Xmas?

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Jace

come on mike, don't burst Ron's bubble...he is award virgin

let him have his moment in the sun

i can't WAIT for the acceptance speech though...haha

Ron, be sure and thank my penis

That is the problem with the amateur awards - they don't let the amateurs come up to make speeches - so that is why mike, myself, and all the others feel so compelled to make speeches ad infinitum after the fact...

[EroticistFilms]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

BTW Ron...You didnt really take it that seriously did you?

I know you joke about it a lot and for what its worth man...Im pullin for ya to win.

OF course NOT! It was my attempt at some tongue-N-cheek action. I REALLY didn't mean to start a shit storm.

For the record MIKE WAS ONLY JOKING!

..and so was I.

I could care less about the awards, It's money that I want!

[The Ghost]

I really enjoy threads like this.

[EroticistFilms]

Originally Posted by Jace

come on mike, don't burst Ron's bubble...he is award virgin

let him have his moment in the sun

i can't WAIT for the acceptance speech though...haha

Ron, be sure and thank my penis

That's the funniest thing about all this, Jace, even if I win, I won't even be at the Awards this year because VCA/Hustler has opted not to give any of the directors who were nominated tickets to the event. They are giving me tickets to the convention though, so I will be able to harass my fellow pornographers.

Also about Mike. He was one of the first pornographers who I ever met. He's said nice things about me on his blog and we have whooped it up with porn girls together!

This kinda says it all, doesn't it?

HAHAHaHAHAHAHA


PS - Jace - Remember the time I accidently ate all of your Cheez-Its? I believe you screamed out Cheez-Its Christ!

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Did mike send you the pom poms you always wanted for Xmas?

No he is just a good guy better then when I spoke to you and got the there's no money in video porn line. lol

[john t bone]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Maybe you didn't get anything because your movies sucked more and more as everyone elses got better and better and the fact that you wanted your talent to work condomless with known iv drug users like jerry butler.

Since Mike never asked anyone to do anything so irresponsible I think that makes you the sleaziest most opinionated shit bag ever plus a lame ass excuse for a human being to boot.

Interesting time line, I think Jerry Butler left the business long before any of the companies used condoms and even before they discovered AIDs.
Maybe my movies sucked more and more but I think I won about 6 more awards after Jerry quit, how have you been doing awardwise? You guys in the Hall of Fame?
Thanks for the character bump, you like Mr. South have never met me, worked with me, never done a deal with me, you have just listened to stupid fucking rumors from stupid fucking whores, however that doesn't stop you shooting off your big fucking mouth as though you had an opinion of your own.
As a last thought Jerry wasn't an IV drug user to my knowledge I think you may be confusing him with his wife but I could be wrong he never discused his drug habits with me, I guess you knew him better.

[john t bone]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

LOL I have been called a sleazebag by John T Bone...My life is now complete

Hey I never fucked anyone who worked for me by bouncing a check or not payin em...If that's what it takes to make me an upstanding porner like John T Bone...I will remain a sleazebag

Indeed you will Mike, indeed you will.

[EroticistFilms]

Originally Posted by Jace

congrats Ron

weren't you supposed to be coming to Atlanta soon?

My mom had an operation and I had to come home. I'm trying to see if I can get down there before I head out to Vegas for the show.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Far-L

That is the problem with the amateur awards - they don't let the amateurs come up to make speeches - so that is why mike, myself, and all the others feel so compelled to make speeches ad infinitum after the fact...

amateur awards? LOL

[Jace]

Originally Posted by EroticistFilms

My mom had an operation and I had to come home. I'm trying to see if I can get down there before I head out to Vegas for the show.

that sucks

come for new years, it will be a blast

[shekinah]

Goodluck to you, wishing you all the best

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by tony404

No he is just a good guy better then when I spoke to you and got the there's no money in video porn line. lol

You are still whining about that? Mike just said the same thing in this thread "that the money is not in video it's in the net" that i told you previously. Why don't you take your bitch to him about it now instead of cracking on me because i was sincere with you...

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by john t bone

Interesting time line, I think Jerry Butler left the business long before any of the companies used condoms and even before they discovered AIDs.
Maybe my movies sucked more and more but I think I won about 6 more awards after Jerry quit, how have you been doing awardwise? You guys in the Hall of Fame?
Thanks for the character bump, you like Mr. South have never met me, worked with me, never done a deal with me, you have just listened to stupid fucking rumors from stupid fucking whores, however that doesn't stop you shooting off your big fucking mouth as though you had an opinion of your own.
As a last thought Jerry wasn't an IV drug user to my knowledge I think you may be confusing him with his wife but I could be wrong he never discused his drug habits with me, I guess you knew him better.

First, I was on the set when it happened and you knew clearly the issue talent had with it. Second you knew full well that Jerry was trying to get back in the biz after publishing his book "Raw Talent" that talked openly about his drug use. Third there is still laughable irony in you saying Mike has an ego problem.

[Jace]

I am 32 years old and 5'10" and I weigh 201lbs

I need to start working on my weight

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by EroticistFilms

I had never been verbally bitch slapped like that in my adult life and have spent many hours praying that someday I may win an award so I could get this rotting, stinking Mike South albatross from around my neck, and once again walk proud amongst my fellow pornographers.

This year I?ve been nominated for 4 awards. Oh please Jesus and Santa, hear my wish????.

Congrats on that - the nominations, I mean!
Mike South has nothing better to do, than to "bitch slap" people he doesn't even know, so don't feel bad...you're not in an "exclusive club", as far as that goes. He's a foul mouthed, jerk, who has nothign better to do apparently, than to be a "wanna be" hostess of The View!
Fitz

[Jace]

Originally Posted by fitzmulti

Congrats on that - the nominations, I mean!
Mike South has nothing better to do, than to "bitch slap" people he doesn't even know, so don't feel bad...you're not in an "exclusive club", as far as that goes. He's a foul mouthed, jerk, who has nothign better to do apparently, than to be a "wanna be" hostess of The View!
Fitz

ROFL

Mike South and Ron are actually friends, as are myself and the South man

Fitz, let me be very frank with you here, and I am speaking from the experience I have with you....don't throw fucking stones when you live in a glass house

you don't happen to remember an experience with my wife and a certain time she was in Vegas and you took advantage of her do you?

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by Jace

ROFL

Mike South and Ron are actually friends, as are myself and the South man

Fitz, let me be very frank with you here, and I am speaking from the experience I have with you....don't throw fucking stones when you live in a glass house

you don't happen to remember an experience with my wife and a certain time she was in Vegas and you took advantage of her do you?

Hmm Jace. I recall we did a TFP shoot, out at Valley of Fire, and she and Sabrina both got the photos to do with as they wished...I don't know how that would be referred to as taking advantage of someone. If I am wrong, for God's sake, let me know, but I am sure that I have my facts right there.

Re: Mike, he's slandered me in the past, without even knowing me...so that's what I was referencing...literally having only met me at a party one time 5 years before he posted a bunch of bullshit about me. That leaves a bad taste...

:-)
Fitz

[mikesouth]

LOL now I have been called evil by Brad Fitzgerald...Jesus does the number of slimebags who hate me never end.

Im proud to have the following as avowed enemies:
John T Bone
Rob Black
Brad Fitzgerald

Hey that's pretty good I think....kinda speaks for itself maybe Hitler, Charlie Manson, Ted Bundy and David Duke will chime in here too ... give the list some real clout.

[TheAmericanCannibal]

I personally love Mike and Far-L
That's all I can say...
Neither one passed judgement on me when I dated a chick who banged 621 guys in a day.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHH don't blow my cover

[john t bone]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

LOL now I have been called evil by Brad Fitzgerald...Jesus does the number of slimebags who hate me never end.

Im proud to have the following as avowed enemies:
John T Bone
Rob Black
Brad Fitzgerald

Hey that's pretty good I think....kinda speaks for itself maybe Hitler, Charlie Manson, Ted Bundy and David Duke will chime in here too ... give the list some real clout.

Please do not count me as an enemy I have no fucking idea who you are. I have heard your name maybe 6 times in ten years, it usually goes like this
"That Mike South guy is bad mouthing you again on his site"
"Who is he?"
"Nobody"
I have always assumed you to be a 'wanna be' who tries to get attention by badmouthing known people. Now I know more, you won an award for a company that buys content from housewifes and you made 2 movies for Elegant Angel. Is that it?
Actually don't answer that question I really don't want to know.

[Far-L]

Mike - I got the message from Jact about the link trade btw - no problem, going to get to it today. Thanks!

[Jace]

Originally Posted by fitzmulti

Hmm Jace. I recall we did a TFP shoot, out at Valley of Fire, and she and Sabrina both got the photos to do with as they wished...I don't know how that would be referred to as taking advantage of someone. If I am wrong, for God's sake, let me know, but I am sure that I have my facts right there.

Re: Mike, he's slandered me in the past, without even knowing me...so that's what I was referencing...literally having only met me at a party one time 5 years before he posted a bunch of bullshit about me. That leaves a bad taste...

:-)
Fitz

well, here is a little hint....next time someone offers her time for a TFP shoot, don't pull them hours out of the way into the desert where they are trapped and can't really decide against it even if they wanted, and at least try and take semi decent shots......you basically drove her and sabrina out into the desert where they had no options whatsoever, all while they had previous engagements, then the pics that were taken were such crappy quality no one could use them

to this day she still talks about that idiot in vegas that took advantage of the situation....LOL....

oh, and wasn't it also you that told me that shooting with you for that TFP would give her an excellent shot at being featured in Xcitement Magazine? who you also said you were in a high position for.....when I asked around about you later, most people I asked at Xcitement laughed when I said your name and could not believe you would say something like that

it was years ago, and I hate hashing shit up that was so long ago, but I just couldn't bite my tongue anymore....she keeps bitching at me for it, even though it was years ago, so now I am relaying that bitch onto you.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by john t bone

Please do not count me as an enemy I have no fucking idea who you are. I have heard your name maybe 6 times in ten years, it usually goes like this
"That Mike South guy is bad mouthing you again on his site"
"Who is he?"
"Nobody"
I have always assumed you to be a 'wanna be' who tries to get attention by badmouthing known people. Now I know more, you won an award for a company that buys content from housewifes and you made 2 movies for Elegant Angel. Is that it?
Actually don't answer that question I really don't want to know.

Who are you? A has-been director of one-day-wonders who just found out there is something called the internet?

I can't be too hard on you though... you must have given up drinking to be coherent enough to even post here.

BTW, Mike was owning his own content when you were still begging for budgets from Legend etc.