So I caught two big programs shaving, what should i do? - GoFuckYourself.com

teomaxxx · 12-22-2006, 05:41 PM

It really doesnt take much work to find it, i had to buy 4 memberships to find out 2 programs from 4 are shaving. I dont want to break my ties with them because i make a good money with them even with shaving.
I guess they have to shave to be able to survive in industry, so i see it as something like a tax, but if i will exposed them, it can help to solve such situation. So I think that best way is to pay someone to create new webmaster accounts, buy few memeberships and make a video tape at once, as i am lazy to do that by myself and then post it under different gfy account here.

What would you suggest?

And yes, both of them are big programs.

MaDalton · 12-22-2006, 05:43 PM

it's just a glitch - the programmer forgot to upload the latest changes to the backend

RogerV · 12-22-2006, 05:43 PM

fuck that we dont shave at all.. why support them then? they should just lower there payouts

Evil1 · 12-22-2006, 05:44 PM

dont be a dickhead, spit some names out

SomeCreep · 12-22-2006, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx

What would you suggest?

And yes, both of them are big programs.

Name them here and I'll tell you if they shave or not.

ShaveBucks · 12-22-2006, 05:47 PM

I happen to have the perfect place to be outting such companies. Just hit the submit link at the bottom of the page after clicking my sig

polish_aristocrat · 12-22-2006, 05:48 PM

Quote:

So I think that best way is to pay someone to create new webmaster accounts, buy few memeberships and make a video tape at once, as i am lazy to do that by myself and then post it under different gfy account here.

What would you suggest?

And yes, both of them are big programs.

do it, then show them the proof and ask for a $10k wire to your bank, if not, you'll post the proof on GFY ;-)

BusterBunny · 12-22-2006, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

do it, then show them the proof and ask for a $10k wire to your bank, if not, you'll post the proof on GFY ;-)

Wiseman · 12-22-2006, 05:53 PM

Send Your Traffic To Me!!!

I WILL PAY YOU $60 A JOIN

BV · 12-22-2006, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

do it, then show them the proof and ask for a $10k wire to your bank, if not, you'll post the proof on GFY ;-)

that would be cool

vvq · 12-22-2006, 05:55 PM

most programs have fraud controls in place. even 2 signups from the same person is going to raise some flags.

pocketkangaroo · 12-22-2006, 05:55 PM

I'd out them. If you are talking about a major company, I think we might be thinking of the same one. Would like to hear what you have.

CaptainHowdy · 12-22-2006, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil1

dont be a dickhead, spit some names out

I think It might be good to be cautious...

wdsguy · 12-22-2006, 06:02 PM

could just be a delay in terms of sales posting.

XMaster · 12-22-2006, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV

fuck that we dont shave at all.. why support them then? they should just lower there payouts

I concur 10x . We don't shave either. Of course we work hard and we don't propose $200 shitty payouts - but this the way we do. * i can't believe webmasters support shave *

DaddyHalbucks · 12-22-2006, 06:13 PM

Do nothing. Continue to live your life as a wimp who is too afraid to post what he really wants to say.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-22-2006, 06:15 PM

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 12-22-2006, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

ADG Webmaster

hahahaha, thats not shaving, thats shearing!

and as stupid as it looks, shearing sheep can be good times...

Peaches · 12-22-2006, 06:21 PM

Why even start this thread??

quantum-x · 12-22-2006, 06:21 PM

How many times do these threads come up?
Everytime everyone spends two pages begging and coercing, and they normally go 'oh wait it was an accounting error my rep got back to me'

Methodcash Rick · 12-22-2006, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx

What would you suggest?

I would suggest either posting the program names, or be labled a drama whore.

Seeing that you probably won't post the program names, let me be the first to say.......

DRAMA WHORE

Methodcash Rick · 12-22-2006, 06:27 PM

Might I add.

Hot Lincoln

teomaxxx · 12-22-2006, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdsguy

could just be a delay in terms of sales posting.

probably not, since i made them few days before.
i stand with this guy:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...3&postcount=32

Pornopat · 12-22-2006, 06:36 PM

I suggest moving on to other programs.

teomaxxx · 12-22-2006, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

Why even start this thread??

you didnt see that question in title of thread?

its not easy to accuse a sponsor with whom you are doing a shitload of money of shaving, see here:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...3&postcount=32

TampaToker · 12-22-2006, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx

ey have to shave to be able to survive in industry,

.

you fucking kidding me right?

Icy · 12-22-2006, 06:49 PM

Umm how stupid is to do a test to know if you are being shaved if no matter what you discover you are going to keep promoting them and you are not going to make it public? Why do you do the test then? Just for the pleasure of entering your credit card number in a website form?

What stupid way of expending money doing tests for nothing, expend it on beer and at least you will get something from it.

If i ever find a sponsor shaving me, i will stop to promote them asap, will show them the proofs just to listen at their stupid lies and depending on how easy is to prove in a board that they are saving, i would make it public or just move on to another sponsor. But to keep letting them to steal money from me knowing it? No fucking way.

mattz · 12-22-2006, 06:49 PM

Do nothing, all programs shave

teomaxxx · 12-22-2006, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icy

Umm how stupid is to do a test to know if you are being shaved if no matter what you discover you are going to keep promoting them and you are not going to make it public? Why do you do the test then? Just for the pleasure of entering your credit card number in a website form?

What stupid way of expending money doing tests for nothing, expend it on beer and at least you will get something from it.

.

It was not test for a test. It was a test to know how the reality is.
I really dont care about some fucking 60usd which i spent on test, at least i downloaded some porn for it :-))

King of Queens · 12-22-2006, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx

It was not test for a test. It was a test to know how the reality is.
I really dont care about some fucking 60usd which i spent on test, at least i downloaded some porn for it :-))

Will you test my sponsors

wyldblyss · 12-22-2006, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx

It was not test for a test. It was a test to know how the reality is.
I really dont care about some fucking 60usd which i spent on test, at least i downloaded some porn for it :-))

You spent 60 USD signing up to 4 sites? Very odd dollar amount. Not enough for a full monthly membership and too high for a trial.

eZe · 12-22-2006, 07:55 PM

Dude we don't shave. switch programs...

Taass · 12-22-2006, 07:58 PM

So you catch a guy stealing your wallet, or robbing your home, what would you do ?

Just because this is online and your not face to face with the people you work with it's still stealing your money right in front of your nose !

The excuse that you are making good money with them, so that makes it kinda ok, is pretty lame IMO.

Turn it around and ask yourself, If they are making good money from you, would they think it ok for you to cheat in some extra sales ?
Hell no, you'd be booted from their program right away for fraud !

If your sure they are shaving.. Call them out and that might prevent others from thinking shaving is ok

escorpio · 12-22-2006, 08:04 PM

This kind of thread is always a waste of time. If someone is fucking you and you're not okay with it start a thread and out them. If you are okay with it shut the fuck up and don't start teaser threads.

HighSociety · 12-22-2006, 08:06 PM

what a joke, I have no idea how to shave even if i tried. I thought ccbill did all the work and I have yet to have someone join my program and try anyway. Exclusive contect from real girls 18-22 years old and the only things shaved are their pussies. I even offered to pay for traffic if you try us out and do not get any sales.

SexPlayAlfa · 12-22-2006, 08:17 PM

in the end of the day .. you do $/impressions not even $ per click .. impressions/uniques that have seen the sponsors Ad

we are in the entertainment industry .. and in the end its all about making the most of your viewers

so.. if you got a sponsors banner on your site and it got 100k impressions and from that 7k clicks and from that 7 sales @$40.. your ratio is $2.8/1k impressions

that's how you rate them.. in the end of the day that's all that counts

everything else is just Noise

StarkReality · 12-22-2006, 08:21 PM

In this industry of saints, there is no shaving, it's just creative signup tracking methods or fraud control

RogerV · 12-22-2006, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XMaster

I concur 10x . We don't shave either. Of course we work hard and we don't propose $200 shitty payouts - but this the way we do. * i can't believe webmasters support shave *

I know I might as well pay out $80 PPS and shave 50% if that makes them happier

BitAudioVideo · 12-22-2006, 09:23 PM

if i do 1:400 with sponsor A who shaves 50% and 1:1000 with sponsor B who shaves 0% who am i better off with...

back to my vodka and tonic.

Evil1 · 12-22-2006, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

I think It might be good to be cautious...

being cautious was what happened before he hit 'submit reply'

spooky181 · 12-22-2006, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SexPlayAlfa

in the end of the day .. you do $/impressions not even $ per click .. impressions/uniques that have seen the sponsors Ad

we are in the entertainment industry .. and in the end its all about making the most of your viewers

so.. if you got a sponsors banner on your site and it got 100k impressions and from that 7k clicks and from that 7 sales @$40.. your ratio is $2.8/1k impressions

that's how you rate them.. in the end of the day that's all that counts

everything else is just Noise

Don't say "in the end of the day" firstly your saying it wrong secondly it's so last decade...

SlamDesigns · 12-22-2006, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx

you didnt see that question in title of thread?

its not easy to accuse a sponsor with whom you are doing a shitload of money of shaving, see here:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...3&postcount=32

So it's better to keep it to yourself and become an accessory to the shaving? Way to go drama whore...now either spit out some names or STFU & GFY.

SexPlayAlfa · 12-22-2006, 10:00 PM

we should all switch our sponsors to CPM based and that's it..
no more shaving in clicks or signups... if you are a good sponsor.. and you think you can sell your paysite , good for you , your conversion is your problem not the publishers

can you imagine if newspapers were making money from the sells of cars, real estate and other crap people advertise on them

they will be to busy being salesman and not enough time entertaining their readers.

pornguy · 12-22-2006, 10:06 PM

Its also a bit of fraud for you to sign up, and get paid for it.

Quick Buck · 12-22-2006, 11:05 PM

sorry man, my finger slipped and i accidentally deleted a join instead of adding one.

it wont happen again!

kmanrox · 12-22-2006, 11:12 PM

IMHO anyone paying out $40PPS has to be shaving... anyone.

Quick Buck · 12-23-2006, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox

IMHO anyone paying out $40PPS has to be shaving... anyone.

Not true, they just have to be grabbing the customer by the ankles and shaking them upside down

tombarr · 12-23-2006, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts

hahahaha, thats not shaving, thats shearing!

and as stupid as it looks, shearing sheep can be good times...

Yeah but the metaphore is still there.... don't be a stupid sheep and lay there taking it....

Don't just accept the shaving as a "tax".... it's fraud. plain and simple and it's a big fuck you from the sponsor. There are other sponsors out there you can make great money with if you have that good of a traffic pump so ... don't be silent.... just remember, if they think enough of you as their affiliate to steal from you now in this way, what will they come up with next?

Dump, burn, fire, evict, catapult, eject the fuckers....

Psycho_x · 12-23-2006, 08:50 PM

It could just be the beer talking and I may be wrong on this.But if you joined to see if they are shaving and if you did use your own credit card . Isn't that fraud against the sponsor. So either way someone here is being cheated so you really have nothing to lose by posting some names here.

Waveu6410 · 12-23-2006, 09:17 PM

Stop being a bitch and tell us who the criminals are.

12-22-2006, 05:41 PM	#1
teomaxxx Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,734	So I caught two big programs shaving, what should i do? It really doesnt take much work to find it, i had to buy 4 memberships to find out 2 programs from 4 are shaving. I dont want to break my ties with them because i make a good money with them even with shaving. I guess they have to shave to be able to survive in industry, so i see it as something like a tax, but if i will exposed them, it can help to solve such situation. So I think that best way is to pay someone to create new webmaster accounts, buy few memeberships and make a video tape at once, as i am lazy to do that by myself and then post it under different gfy account here. What would you suggest? And yes, both of them are big programs. Last edited by teomaxxx; 12-22-2006 at 05:43 PM..

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12-22-2006, 05:47 PM	#6
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12-22-2006, 05:43 PM	#3
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12-22-2006, 05:55 PM	#12
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12-22-2006, 06:02 PM	#14
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12-22-2006, 06:21 PM	#20
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12-22-2006, 06:49 PM	#27
Icy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 864	Umm how stupid is to do a test to know if you are being shaved if no matter what you discover you are going to keep promoting them and you are not going to make it public? Why do you do the test then? Just for the pleasure of entering your credit card number in a website form? What stupid way of expending money doing tests for nothing, expend it on beer and at least you will get something from it. If i ever find a sponsor shaving me, i will stop to promote them asap, will show them the proofs just to listen at their stupid lies and depending on how easy is to prove in a board that they are saving, i would make it public or just move on to another sponsor. But to keep letting them to steal money from me knowing it? No fucking way. __________________ Kimia: Make money with mobile traffic, both adult and mainstream Skype: sinlords - ICQ: 83-235-881 email: ivan at kimia.mobi

12-22-2006, 06:49 PM	#28
mattz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: AZ Posts: 7,697	Do nothing, all programs shave

12-22-2006, 07:55 PM	#32
eZe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 360	Dude we don't shave. switch programs...

12-22-2006, 07:58 PM	#33
Taass Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 697	So you catch a guy stealing your wallet, or robbing your home, what would you do ? Just because this is online and your not face to face with the people you work with it's still stealing your money right in front of your nose ! The excuse that you are making good money with them, so that makes it kinda ok, is pretty lame IMO. Turn it around and ask yourself, If they are making good money from you, would they think it ok for you to cheat in some extra sales ? Hell no, you'd be booted from their program right away for fraud ! If your sure they are shaving.. Call them out and that might prevent others from thinking shaving is ok __________________ Reward Them - Top Converting CCbill Affiliate Program !

12-22-2006, 08:04 PM	#34
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12-22-2006, 08:06 PM	#35
HighSociety Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,786	what a joke, I have no idea how to shave even if i tried. I thought ccbill did all the work and I have yet to have someone join my program and try anyway. Exclusive contect from real girls 18-22 years old and the only things shaved are their pussies. I even offered to pay for traffic if you try us out and do not get any sales. __________________ http://www.highsociety.com http://www.playgirl.com http://www.cheri.com Jonathan "JC" Maldini ICQ: 223 643

12-22-2006, 08:17 PM	#36
SexPlayAlfa Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 74	in the end of the day .. you do $/impressions not even $ per click .. impressions/uniques that have seen the sponsors Ad we are in the entertainment industry .. and in the end its all about making the most of your viewers so.. if you got a sponsors banner on your site and it got 100k impressions and from that 7k clicks and from that 7 sales @$40.. your ratio is $2.8/1k impressions that's how you rate them.. in the end of the day that's all that counts everything else is just Noise __________________ I am not a Sigwhore! Last edited by SexPlayAlfa; 12-22-2006 at 08:19 PM.. Reason: nada

12-22-2006, 08:21 PM	#37
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12-22-2006, 09:23 PM	#39
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12-22-2006, 10:00 PM	#43
SexPlayAlfa Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 74	we should all switch our sponsors to CPM based and that's it.. no more shaving in clicks or signups... if you are a good sponsor.. and you think you can sell your paysite , good for you , your conversion is your problem not the publishers can you imagine if newspapers were making money from the sells of cars, real estate and other crap people advertise on them they will be to busy being salesman and not enough time entertaining their readers. __________________ I am not a Sigwhore!

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12-22-2006, 11:12 PM	#46
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12-23-2006, 08:50 PM	#49
Psycho_x Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 697	It could just be the beer talking and I may be wrong on this.But if you joined to see if they are shaving and if you did use your own credit card . Isn't that fraud against the sponsor. So either way someone here is being cheated so you really have nothing to lose by posting some names here. __________________

12-23-2006, 09:17 PM	#50
Waveu6410 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 4,038	Stop being a bitch and tell us who the criminals are.