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aico 12-17-2006 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 11542589)
what a shitty bunch of friends. totally sold her out. obviously they were no friends at all.

Hello, they are women...

Put four men in a room, one will come out for beer.

Put four women in a room, one will come out alive.

TexasDreams 12-17-2006 12:57 PM

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A man may fall many times but he won't be a failure until he says someone pushed him.
Elmer G. Letterman
My :2 cents:

Boobs 12-17-2006 12:57 PM

can they even do shit like this?

psili 12-17-2006 01:00 PM

This thread's retarded.

People need to think about the repercussions their actions may have. So fucking what if she posed nude? So fucking what a bunch of people who help own her future are offended by it and now she's fucked? Take the genius dressed like a scumbag, full of tattoos and piercings who tries to get a job in corporate world. He's denied because he looks like a scumbag, which goes against the grain of the company's image. Both are losers, yes. But the scumbag's more of a loser, in my own opinion.

It's fucking reality.

If she didn't know her actions conflicted with reality, she's a fucking idiot. Right or wrong, it's how it is. Slowly it can be changed, but for now, it's a fact: go against a community's idea of what's right and wrong and pay for it.

And in regard to religion -- I'll only say those against it should be more vocal about turning the lost sheep who find comfort in religion are wrong, weak, sad beings who should start standing up for themselves and humanity rather than some textbook figure.

:(

geeksta 12-17-2006 01:03 PM

What Donny Falwell should have told his models:

There isn't anything wrong with posing nude and showing your body, unfortunately, because we live in a fucked up society ran by and influenced religious fundamentalist assholes who think they make the rules on "morality" and have the market cornered in that, when someone does find out that you worked in this industry you may very well lose mainstream work and education opportunities. You've got to decide whether or not you will be strong enough to handle the fall out when it does happen.

I hope every person here shooting is giving the models a lecture like this so they know that they are up against a world of religious fuckwits who take great pleasure in trying to destroy the lives of those they judge as "immoral." The models deserve to know the "Donnys" they will be up against should they take that step and decide to pose nude.

Lazonby 12-17-2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny (Post 11542379)
...over posing for me. Her teammates found out. Chico State Basketball is a pretty serious program. Her scholarship may be yanked because she posed for me.

:(

It's not being yanked because she posed for you. It's being yanked because of the idiots in charge.

who 12-17-2006 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by geeksta (Post 11542677)
What Donny Falwell should have told his models:

There isn't anything wrong with posing nude and showing your body, unfortunately, because we live in a fucked up society ran by and influenced religious fundamentalist assholes who think they make the rules on "morality" and have the market cornered in that, when someone does find out that you worked in this industry you may very well lose mainstream work and education opportunities. You've got to decide whether or not you will be strong enough to handle the fall out when it does happen.

Yes. :thumbsup

kaori 12-17-2006 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny (Post 11542379)
...over posing for me. Her teammates found out. Chico State Basketball is a pretty serious program. Her scholarship may be yanked because she posed for me.

:(

sucks for her... I guess she should go back to modelling to pay for school then, and spend her extra time studying instead of playing basketball...

aico 12-17-2006 01:08 PM

It's funny how Religious people are so ashamed of seeing and looking at what is by far "God's" best work.

He/She's probably sitting up there right now saying "Those stupid mother fuckers!!! I worked hard on those titties, and what do they do? They cover them up, fuck fuck fuckity fuck!!! Where's my tornado dust?"

notabook 12-17-2006 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 11542702)
It's funny how Religious people are so ashamed of seeing and looking at what is by far "God's" best work.

Hey now, don't be a speciesist. We are just one of Lord Archiot's many great works.

Joe Citizen 12-17-2006 01:23 PM

50 religious hypocrites.

huey 12-17-2006 01:39 PM

Thank god americans are so fucked up when it comes to nudity or we all would be broke.

Jack_Daniels 12-17-2006 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny (Post 11542421)
What does Chico State Basketball, Hewlett Packard, and a police academy have to do with Christians? Please enlighten me.

The same sort of primitive judgmental thinking, or so it would seem.

Those girls did absolutely nothing wrong and anyone who doesn't have his head jammed up his own ass knows it.

who 12-17-2006 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by huey (Post 11542802)
Thank god americans are so fucked up when it comes to nudity or we all would be broke.

That's true. And it's an excellent point.

However, we should be getting a lot of muslims buying porn from us, by that logic.

BlackCrayon 12-17-2006 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_Daniels (Post 11542851)
The same sort of primitive judgmental thinking, or so it would seem.

Those girls did absolutely nothing wrong and anyone who doesn't have his head jammed up his own ass knows it.

and you just know each and every one of those who passed judgement/fired/etc has enjoyed porn at one time.

geeksta 12-17-2006 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by who (Post 11542864)
That's true. And it's an excellent point.

However, we should be getting a lot of muslims buying porn from us, by that logic.

What kind of billing options do we have for the middle east, btw? Seems like there really isn't anything. Maybe we would have all the talibaners buying from us if we could figure out how to bill these countries?

Pete-KT 12-17-2006 02:08 PM

sucks to be them, dumb bitches should of thought of it before stripping on camera for u

baddog 12-17-2006 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny (Post 11542576)
Unfortunately it's true.

When you're applying for law enforcement cops start showing up talking to your friends. When I applied for the CHP several years ago I had coworkers letting me know the cops had been asking questions about me. It happens, my friend.

I am sorry, but did this come as some kind of a surprise to you? What do you think a background check consists of? Why do you think they ask for names of friends?

Jack_Daniels 12-17-2006 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11542909)
I am sorry, but did this come as some kind of a surprise to you? What do you think a background check consists of? Why do you think they ask for names of friends?

Well, I for one would like to think a background check is about looking for relevant and important things, not the sort of utter nonsense being discussed here. Then again perhaps my expectations were too high.

WarChild 12-17-2006 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny (Post 11542485)
So many people think I've lost my mind or something because I stopped shooting content.

Actually, no. People think you've lost your mind because you think some imaginery higher power guides your life. :2 cents:

Rochard 12-17-2006 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kaori (Post 11542698)
sucks for her... I guess she should go back to modelling to pay for school then, and spend her extra time studying instead of playing basketball...

That pretty much sums it up right there....

psili 12-17-2006 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_Daniels (Post 11542937)
Well, I for one would like to think a background check is about looking for relevant and important things, not the sort of utter nonsense being discussed here. Then again perhaps my expectations were too high.

I think having posed nude for something is relevant in regard to public service. The adult industry's filled with scum and thus a public servant should be above such things as associating with scum.

I have my ideas about the adult industry, and even though I work on a lighter side of it, I still think it's a business filled with shady characters.

Perception's key, here.

fris 12-17-2006 02:34 PM

that rocks

SleazyDream 12-17-2006 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny (Post 11542403)
First they'll kick her off the team. She's waiting to find out about that now. If they do kick her off, she'll also lose her scholarship.

Not too long ago, another of my models lost a job at Hewlett Packard after they found out she'd posed for me. Violated their morality clause.

Also, another of my models was kicked out of the police academy once the background check revealed that she'd posed for me. She'd wanted to be a cop all her life. Now that is not an option.

These are just a few of the reasons I had to face the fact that the way I was making my living was selfish. :(

yes being a cop is soo much better - woops, forgot as a cop you can ruin someone's life and travel abaility by charging them with one joint.

i can go on about most any job too.


donny - whoever the fuck you are - you're a whinny snively moron :2 cents:

SleazyDream 12-17-2006 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by psili (Post 11542986)
I think having posed nude for something is relevant in regard to public service. The adult industry's filled with scum and thus a public servant should be above such things as associating with scum.

I have my ideas about the adult industry, and even though I work on a lighter side of it, I still think it's a business filled with shady characters.

Perception's key, here.


obvilusly you've never worked in mainstream :2 cents:

where companies like zango are legit and praised just as an example

Manowar 12-17-2006 02:45 PM

that sucks bad

ronaldo 12-17-2006 02:50 PM

It's easy to pass judgement on other people. It's much more difficult to pass judgement on yourself, AND be honest about it.

While I believe that you're attempting to pass judgement on yourself Donny for your "past life", I'm not sure you're being totally honest with yourself. You're taking responsibility for these women's lost opportunities, and that's noble, but I believe misguided.

The problem here isn't that YOU took the photos, OR that the women posed naked. The problem is with those in authority who are able to mandate their own moral judgements and insist that everyone live by those rules or be punished for not doing so. If they don't find it acceptable for themselves or their children, fine. Teach them that. But to FORCE that belief or choice on others through mandating is simply wrong and WILL one day be challenged and defeated. Hopefully it's in my lifetime. I hazard to guess that religious types wouldn't appreciate an athiest in charge of any organization believing it immoral for it's employees or students to attend church and subsequently punishing them for doing so. That wouldn't get too far without a lawsuit of some kind. Yet those same religious types who would scream for THEIR rights in regards to freedom of religion or freedom of choice have absolutely no problem infringing on everyone else's rights by telling us what we're allowed or not allowed to do according to their own moral agenda...not even something that's against the law.

And I'm sorry Donny, but whether you choose to believe it or not this IS in fact a religious argument. I don't begrudge you or anyone else the right to believe in god or whatever you choose to, but at least be honest about it and admit that their views are, in many cases, skewed at best for very self serving purposes.

An article you may find interesting if you haven't seen it...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/13/bak...ary/index.html

A couple more that should be pretty scary to non-religious types...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/ma...rssnyt&emc=rss

""Our football program can't change the culture," Falwell said. "Our debate program can, by producing advocates who know how to argue for Judeo-Christian ethics and the American Constitution. We have 32 kids on our team this year, and they'll all be lawyers or leaders of some sort. Our goal is to create an army of people who know how to make our case."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1419302.shtml

"These young people, for the rest of their lives, will be God's spokespersons," Falwell says.

Jman 12-17-2006 03:00 PM

You are going Straight to HELL!!!

http://what-the-hell-is-hell.com/HellImages/Sfire1.jpg

baddog 12-17-2006 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_Daniels (Post 11542937)
Well, I for one would like to think a background check is about looking for relevant and important things, not the sort of utter nonsense being discussed here. Then again perhaps my expectations were too high.

Then it is obvious you have never been subjected to a background check, it is pretty standard stuff.

BlackCrayon 12-17-2006 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11543117)
Then it is obvious you have never been subjected to a background check, it is pretty standard stuff.

so they are actually going to ask if the person has done nude modelling? seems strange.

bizman2960 12-17-2006 03:05 PM

So let's see the pics!!!

fr0gman 12-17-2006 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11542431)
Hate to break it to you, but it wasn't like you put a gun to their head . . . or did you?

You can't be expected to to force feed logic to all your models, they have to bear the responsibility for their actions.

If they are too stupid to read the rules, or think ahead, then maybe they aren't smart enough to deserve a scholarship or be a cop.

baddog <--- saved me the time it would take to type the same thing.

pocketkangaroo 12-17-2006 03:45 PM

While I feel bad for her, it was still her decision to do it and I'm guessing break team rules. It's not your fault that she chose to do it, and her choices and life is really not your problem. Your line of thinking would have all bartenders quitting their jobs because occasionally their serving alcohol causes someone to drive drunk and kill someone.

But you've also helped out a lot of girls. How many girls did you help pay for college? How many girls were able to get degrees and move on to succesful lives because of your business?

Nonetheless, her life isn't over. The scholarship isn't for much and she can make up for it with a side job or some financial aid. It's not like she's the only college student who needs money.

Busty 12-17-2006 03:51 PM

this thread is useless without pics

fuzebox 12-17-2006 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny (Post 11542403)
These are just a few of the reasons I had to face the fact that the way I was making my living was selfish. :(

I still can't believe you are for real. Do you ever read the stuff you write? :1orglaugh

baddog 12-17-2006 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 11543126)
so they are actually going to ask if the person has done nude modelling? seems strange.

I highly doubt that would be a specific question

Jace 12-17-2006 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by geeksta (Post 11542677)
What Donny Falwell should have told his models:

There isn't anything wrong with posing nude and showing your body, unfortunately, because we live in a fucked up society ran by and influenced religious fundamentalist assholes who think they make the rules on "morality" and have the market cornered in that, when someone does find out that you worked in this industry you may very well lose mainstream work and education opportunities. You've got to decide whether or not you will be strong enough to handle the fall out when it does happen.

I hope every person here shooting is giving the models a lecture like this so they know that they are up against a world of religious fuckwits who take great pleasure in trying to destroy the lives of those they judge as "immoral." The models deserve to know the "Donnys" they will be up against should they take that step and decide to pose nude.

from what I am hearing Donny was never the nice pornographer type that tells girls what may happen when they take their clothes off for the camera, he was the slimey guy that convinced girls to get naked even when they had reservations about it...

from the way I understand things, if I was a slimey ass porno pervert like donny was, I would be born again too..

Jace 12-17-2006 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by psili (Post 11542986)
I have my ideas about the adult industry, and even though I work on a lighter side of it, I still think it's a business filled with shady characters.

name one business that doesn't have shady characters

EVERY business does, and just as many too, we are just more close knit in adult due to the forums and interaction, so we see it much more

the alchemist 12-17-2006 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 11543333)
I still can't believe you are for real. Do you ever read the stuff you write? :1orglaugh

Hahaha my thoughts exactly :1orglaugh

scardog 12-17-2006 04:37 PM

I think Donny is focusing on the wrong thing. Women's collegiate sports scholarships are artificially supported by the money generated by men's collegiate football and basketball. Anything you can do to end this farce is a positive thing.


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