15 signups by 12/31 at 50% and then 80% for any additional signups until 12/31 at midnight ?

Matt

hahaha.... stay tuned for the "ok, well... how about 90% payouts" thread.

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I cant believe the people who say "nice deal".

Do they just post for the fuck off it? Asskissing? Sigspot? Someone explain me.

Depends on who it is, some people post for postcount++, some people for the sake of sticking their nose up someone's poop chute, some for a sig spot and others, well, just because they're moronic and can't understand the point of posting. There are of course the legitimate posters, but that's a small percentage.

I'm just a sexy girl


I'll give it a shot

I agree with franck,there is realy no sense to have paysite without visa.

hey at least he know :1orglaugh

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Did he dissapear?

I would hold off on taking on new affiliates until you have Visa. Your conversion ratios will be real bad, and it will piss off affiliates who give you a shot. You sometimes only have one shot at winning over an affiliate, and not being at your best is a mistake.

50 credit cards not accepted.

Obviously the people like Franck & the other nothing but haters & shit talkers haven't read the other thread, nor my post in this thread regarding visa.

It's nice of these kind of posters to conveniently leave out very important facts.


Here's my response..

A. The program is in beta. I will be acquring visa approval AFTER beta phase is complete.



Franck, nobody is telling you that you have to join.. If you don't like it then don't fucking sign up. Seems like alot of these assholes make it their lifes goal to sabotage everything I do & point out flaws in a negative manner. Take notice in the manner of how they do it repeatedly & have no other legitimate purpose on this forum other than to fling mud, talk shit, slander & sabotage peoples efforts & hard work.


You want to make a point, you want to offer advice, or make criticism, that's fucking fine, & very welcome, but the manner & the tone you conduct yourselves with are moronic.. You're children really, & if I ever dealt with you in person with that tone, I'd laugh in your fucking face & walk away from you.. Nobody could ever take someone serious who conducts themselves like that.


How stupid of franck to assume something as stupid as 10 sets of zipcontent when everyone can clearly see the site advertises over 40 models, lol... hmm.. pretty hard to do this with 10 sets, don't you think? even counting different girls/sets on the tour is more than 10.. Better yet, not one single image came from zipcontent, lol.....

If you really need to know, the content comes from several providers.

And to get more to the point.. yes, I am offering 80% on sales after the first 15. Why? because anyone capable of sending 15 sales deserves to earn more.

Why only after 15 sales? Because it is not profitable to payout 80% to someone who may only send a single sale. Because I need the initial sales to raise re-investment capital, and because I figured I'd do some sort of promo to help pick things up a bit..


I'm not out here bullshitting anyone.. you don't see me here boasting how great & hunky dory everything is.. you don't see me here telling you you're gonna get rich, or have fantastic ratios..

I am a one person shop.. I work hard, I am motivated, I am determined, & I will keep doing it no matter how hard the sharks try to eat me alive, you just can not kill what can not die!!

You can either work with me, or continue to work against me, but mark my words, you continue to battle against me, you're building yourself a very strong adversary. Keep in mind that I have long term plans and goals & also bear in mind that I plan to grow & i will never stop.. What will you say then?


Also, more to the point.. Franck & all the other sharks.. have't you fucking noticed that the site's only been active for a few days.. How the fuck would you know wether or not if I intend to have visa or not....

here's something you can answer franck.. I offered payouts on the phone sales.. several of the programs out there pay you NOTHING on the phone sales.. Why aren't you bitching about it in their threads.

Blah blah...whatever dude, go ahead, bury your head in the sand watch how your launch will totally fail, piss of affiliates and fuck things up bad.
Dont take anything of what i said seriously, ignore it and do it your way. I dont give a shit if you fail.

Yea whatever..

You never had any intentions of trying to help.. your only goal is to sabotage me & act like the asshole you're known for.

You conveniently took advantage of the fact that I do not currently have visa approval & used this as an opportunity to take shots at me, knowing full well from this thread & the other threads that I do intend to apply visa :1orglaugh


Piss off affiliates? :1orglaugh How? Am I hiding anything? Am I being deceptive with them? I think I've been very up front with people.
matter of fact, I have taking the visa issue into consideration & I have reviewed several other threads about it & I am fully aware of the facts.

Sure I very much appreciate peoples feedback & I do listen & apply feedback into positive change.. It is not your ideas that are wrong, it is the manner in which you apply them.

Fail :1orglaugh that's not an option.


hey.. thanks for making this thread into drama.. I just scored some more affiliates :)

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I wouldnt have been this negative if you opened a thread asking for suggestions and maybe some people who want to test the site for you etc but you come here acting like a big program (we have gone crazy blah blah) while your shit sucks.

If you did the first people wouldve helped you, told you what to and what not to do and maybe in 2 months or so you couldve started this exact same thread and the replies wouldve been way fucking better. The only people posting good deal are the postwhores and clueless surfers. Read this thread again and you might find out what im talking about.

Uh,, you missed that thread.. and I launched now so I can have everything in place two months from now when the exclusive solo girls site comes out in february..
and the visa application should already be approved by then

Personally, I think you're shooting yourself in the foot by not getting the Visa before trying to beta it to affiliates, but it's your business. :2 cents:

yeah, it has its drawbacks, but I figured I'd launch site first so any incoming revenue can be applied to acquiring visa approval as I was not in a position to get it as I was eager to get going although I've exhausted my capital.

I figured that launching & having some sort of promo would give it a boost then I can apply the revenue into visa.

I wonder how many affiliates are sending him traffic not realizing he doesn't accept Visa

that seems like something an honest person would make VERY clear up front

This is not the first thread about my program. This issue has come up before in other threads & I thought it was a well known fact that I do not have visa approval. I have seen many programs when first starting up that did not have it. Also, it is obvious isn't it.. One only has to check the join forms



on another note.. I wonder how many people are sending traffic to hundreds of nameless CCbill billed sites that don't know that they're not getting paid on phone sales.. I chose & elected to pay people on those sales unlike others that pay $0 on them..

jace has a very good point...


Take a loan from the mob if you have to, if affiliates are signing up and not realizing that you're leaving, what, 80% of their traffic on the table, wasted... You may have some upset people.

Until the onset of this thread, your program site did not link to your site, most webmasters don't read minds. :winkwink:

does it say it directly on your program site? if not you are deceiving people

not everyone reads every single thread on the forums

that's not correct. There is a screencap on the mainpage that has always been linked to the paysite since day one.

the screencap on list of sites has always been linked.. someone commented about the text not being linked, however, the screencap image always was linked, as well as link code in promo was available for anyone to check out by grabbing the link.

I clicked on said image several times after you said it was linked, and in fact there was no link either in the text or on the screencap.

Good luck with your program.

There isn't really a Visa application. You send them the cash and they approve you...so long as your site isn't CP, Shit or Incest. When the majority of CC sales are Visa based, people ARE wasting traffic by sending it to you. 80% payout won't make up for the loss of not being able to process Visa.

Yeah, Franck might seem like an ass to some...but he's right on with this one. Everyone knows this, but it seems like you don't understand or don't want to understand. I really don't think he was trying to be an ass. To me it seems like he was offering constructive criticism.

I'd take what everyone here has said to you into consideration. From experience I can tell you that spending the $750 for Visa approval is the best thing you can do for your paysite. I tried to put off the Visa for a little bit while testing and sending my own traffic to my own sites and it was a total waste.

Add to that the fact that potential affiliates look at NOT having Visa as doing things on the cheap. Revshare is a partnership and being able to process all CCs is part of your end of the bargain.

are you serious.

Show me one single program that has it in their tos which payment methods they do or do not accept?

I am not the first, nor will I be the last person whom has launched a site without visa.

I didn't know I was required to have it on my tos to please the purists & theorists out there who throw random made up statistics such as "visa accounts for 80% of traffic/sales.." etc, etc.,,

What makes one claim 80% of the worlds porn traffic uses visa for paying for a membership?


From what I've been told by some people whom operate paysites, Visa has the highest charge back ratio, Visa transactions are declined at a higher rate, etc.


lol @ 80% of traffic uses visa,.. :1orglaugh

that's not true.. the screencap has always been linked. right there on the main page. The second screencap was not linked for the first day.

In my initial thread, the link to site was provided in the thread too.

I'm not going to argue with you, I don't know the exact figures, but I do know that MC is a very low % of the charges...

Hey, since you seem to know everything and everyone else knows nothing, can I hire you to do my job for me? You'd make the perfect replacement.

isnt it like 80% of ccs out there are visa?

You're right, I'm lying to you, I was lying to you in my earlier posts in the thread and I continue to lie to you now. It profits me to lie to you, how, I don't know.. But I'm sure it must, since I'm lying to you.

Man, you're a real nutjob.

yeah, no shit.. I understand all this & I do know.. I am not trying to be difficult here, but no one is reading me right here.. I don't have the money ok.. I don't have the $750 & I made this thread to get the damn $750 by making sales to the damn site.. dosen't anyone get it.

I get it, you aren't ready to launch or run a program. Come back when you have backing. :upsidedow

You're lying too, jace. :pimp

if you do not have the money to start a site/program, why didn't you just stick to promoting yourself while in "beta" and not open it to public?

you should have seen how long it took me to photoshop that graphic and then convince acnielsen.com to let me host it on their servers

well, it is true.. the screencap on the mainpage has always been linked since day one. Sure the second screencap on sites page was not linked initially til someone pointed it out, but the very first page has a screencap & it always has been linked, as well as there being the ccbill linking code for anyone to paste into their browser

I know bro, you got skills! Voodoo mind control or some shit too!

spacedog, you are a total nutjob