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Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 08:04 AM

50 penises, scared of being mutilated because of a retarded fucking wives tale or religion.

Lazonby 12-14-2006 08:04 AM

Lot's of simple-minded fools in this thread who are glad that their parents mutilated them. Well actually they're not glad, but since they will never be whole again they have to pretend they are glad they got cut. Idiots. Then of course they will mutilate their own children and so on. The abused become the abusers.

bl4h 12-14-2006 08:06 AM

  • In the only national probability sample in the U.S. researchers found that circumcised men were less likely to experience sexual dysfunction than uncircumcised men.
  • In a poll conducted by an anti-circumcision organization (whose methods for recruiting subjects were not reported), 61% of circumcised men reported decreased sensation resulting in sexual dysfunction.
  • In another survey of women (who were recruited through an anti-circumcision newsletter) reports vary widely. Women who prefer circumcised partners claim that uncircumcised partners were more likely to premature ejaculate, yet the researchers state that overall women found circumcised partners more likely to premature ejaculate. For some reason the researchers never reveal the overall preference of the entire sample of 139 women for circumcised or uncircumcised men.
  • Yet in another study, 71% of women preferred circumcised penises to uncircumcised ones for engaging in sexual behaviors.
  • Two articles published in the same issue of The Journal of Urology that both measured adult men before and after circumcision on sexual ratings arrived at very different results, with one study finding no reduction in satisfaction with erections, and the other study finding a significant reduction in satisfaction with erections after circumcision. Neither study found an overall change in sexual satisfaction after adult circumcision

its hard to say

stickyfingerz 12-14-2006 08:08 AM

All I know is I never have an issue with popping my top before she wants me to. I can cum when I want to with no problem. I have no issue with stinky cock, and no worry of any cheese residue. My dick doesnt look like its wearing a turtle neck sweater either. :winkwink:

Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazonby (Post 11526071)
Lot's of simple-minded fools in this thread who are glad that their parents mutilated them. Well actually they're not glad, but since they will never be whole again they have to pretend they are glad they got cut. Idiots. Then of course they will mutilate their own children and so on. The abused become the abusers.

i was born in a small town in alaska in 1970. when i was little, i asked my parents why i was circumcized when i was born and they didn't have an answer. that kinda freaked me out. i didn't care about the fact that they did it... i really didn't understand why you would do something like that without reason... even if the reason seems crazy. i mean, if they cut off 4 of my fingers when i was an infant because a voice in their head told them so, i could make sense of it and understand... even if its fucking weird and i have to admit they are crazy. but imagine if they cut off 4 of your fingers and said "well, we're not really sure why we did that, but we do love you... can you pass me the remote control" - it really messed with my head.

bl4h 12-14-2006 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11526092)
All I know is I never have an issue with popping my top before she wants me to. I can cum when I want to with no problem. I have no issue with stinky cock, and no worry of any cheese residue. My dick doesnt look like its wearing a turtle neck sweater either. :winkwink:

i agree. Never had any penis problems. ever. I mean absolutley nothing

C_U_Next_Tuesday 12-14-2006 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pink_in_the_middle (Post 11526011)
:thumbsup
Seriously its a little bit crazy if you think about it. Why would any parent put their son or even daughter through that. Its mutilation plain and simple :2 cents:

it's not crazy. Case in point.. My middle son was born at home, I went the all natural route and didnt get him circumcised. So for 5 years I had to clean his penis for him so that it didnt get an infection. I taught him how to clean it and pull back the skin each time he pees..well, I figured by age 5 he didnt want mom touching his penis anymore and I reminded him of what he needed to do and left him on his own..checking on him during bathing time and such. Little man didnt take care of it as well as he should and his skin was growing to the head of his penis..making it extremely painful to pee and bathe. When my boy was laying onthe table and the doctor stuck a needle straight into the middle of his little penis..then cut the foreskin off... I came unglued and vowed to myself to get this done when they are born , if I were to have another son. The pain little man was in as a 5 year old will always be something he remembers. I cant imagine a full grown man having this done, you would have to put them under knowing someone is coming after their dick with a scapel.

Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday (Post 11526125)
it's not crazy. Case in point.. My middle son was born at home, I went the all natural route and didnt get him circumcised. So for 5 years I had to clean his penis for him so that it didnt get an infection. I taught him how to clean it and pull back the skin each time he pees..well, I figured by age 5 he didnt want mom touching his penis anymore and I reminded him of what he needed to do and left him on his own..checking on him during bathing time and such. Little man didnt take care of it as well as he should and his skin was growing to the head of his penis..making it extremely painful to pee and bathe. When my boy was laying onthe table and the doctor stuck a needle straight into the middle of his little penis..then cut the foreskin off... I came unglued and vowed to myself to get this done when they are born , if I were to have another son. The pain little man was in as a 5 year old will always be something he remembers. I cant imagine a full grown man having this done, you would have to put them under knowing someone is coming after their dick with a scapel.

we've been on this planet for 10,000,000 to 20,000,000 years without circumcisions. thats something to think about before you decide you have to cut anything else off your child that you feel might be in the way. but if you insist on hacking him up, remove his inner ears to prevent ear infections, carve his eyes out to prevent eye infections and definately have all his teeth pulled in the first week... an abscessed tooth can be a killer.

sure he'll be blind, deaf and look silly with no teeth. but he'll be safer... and thats what sound parenting is all about.

Martin 12-14-2006 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMdave (Post 11525478)
Cirumcised men get AIDS too. There is only ONE thng that protects you: a condom. Any other message is just dangerous and will only cause more people being infected.

Unhygienic? You can wash your cock you know?

Nuff said.

bl4h 12-14-2006 08:29 AM

that argument sounds great man, but we're not talking about etyes and teeth. We're talking about a piece of skin

Youre right, it is there for a reason, but we no longer live in caves.

Drake 12-14-2006 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11526093)
i was born in a small town in alaska in 1970. when i was little, i asked my parents why i was circumcized when i was born and they didn't have an answer. that kinda freaked me out. i didn't care about the fact that they did it... i really didn't understand why you would do something like that without reason... even if the reason seems crazy. i mean, if they cut off 4 of my fingers when i was an infant because a voice in their head told them so, i could make sense of it and understand... even if its fucking weird and i have to admit they are crazy. but imagine if they cut off 4 of your fingers and said "well, we're not really sure why we did that, but we do love you... can you pass me the remote control" - it really messed with my head.

They should have been honest with you and replied "Son, we feared you would grow up with a serious irreversible case of dick cheese. That will NOT be tolerated in this family!" :1orglaugh

Drake 12-14-2006 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bl4h (Post 11526178)
that argument sounds great man, but we're not talking about etyes and teeth. We're talking about a piece of skin

Youre right, it is there for a reason, but we no longer live in caves.

Exactly. It makes more sense for a cave man to have it done because he has no access to modern health care.

Ninja Scripts 12-14-2006 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11526161)
we've been on this planet for 10,000,000 to 20,000,000 years without circumcisions.

And we lived to the ripe old age of 24.

PMdave 12-14-2006 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike33 (Post 11526179)
They should have been honest with you and replied "Son, we feared you would grow up with a serious irreversible case of dick cheese. That will NOT be tolerated in this family!" :1orglaugh

Yups and they should have said immedialtly that they were raising them to be/to have an insensitive cockhead :winkwink:

Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bl4h (Post 11526178)
that argument sounds great man, but we're not talking about etyes and teeth. We're talking about a piece of skin

Youre right, it is there for a reason, but we no longer live in caves.

we are talking about cutting off a piece of someones body based on irrational concerns rooted in ancient religious rites. we no longer live in caves, but thats an equally primative behavior in my opinion.

psili 12-14-2006 08:36 AM

Threads about this topic crack me up as always there is a large majority of people who come into them to vehemently post about how wrong circumcision is, yet they're uncircumcised themselves -- so why are they so fucking upset about a topic that has nothing to do with them?

If anything, it should be circumcised people getting all bent, but you don't see that happening, for the most part.

WTF is wrong here?

Dirty F 12-14-2006 08:37 AM

Hey i would be pissed too if my dick was mutilated. I would attack people who still had their dick 100% intact as well.

Ninja Scripts 12-14-2006 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psili (Post 11526218)
Threads about this topic crack me up as always there is a large majority of people who come into them to vehemently post about how wrong circumcision is, yet they're uncircumcised themselves -- so why are they so fucking upset about a topic that has nothing to do with them?

If anything, it should be circumcised people getting all bent, but you don't see that happening, for the most part.

WTF is wrong here?

They are like Franck and get pissed off to no end that women prefer circumcised men. Then they rant and rave and cry about it and try to say circumcised men are pissed off.

I'm circumcised, I love it. I've never once gave a shit that my parents decided to do it. The women I've been with who have had both always say they prefer circumcised. The only ones pissed are the ones with their skin intact which is why they are here posting in force.

Drake 12-14-2006 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psili (Post 11526218)
Threads about this topic crack me up as always there is a large majority of people who come into them to vehemently post about how wrong circumcision is, yet they're uncircumcised themselves -- so why are they so fucking upset about a topic that has nothing to do with them?

If anything, it should be circumcised people getting all bent, but you don't see that happening, for the most part.

WTF is wrong here?

It's the other way around. How many threads like this have been started by circumsized versus uncircumsized.

The latter come in to the thread to shed knowledge and mock.

"Son, we mutilated you so that once you grew up and decided to have sex with a herpetic AIDS infested crack whore, your chance of getting AIDS would be reduced by 60%. We were just looking out for your best interest".

Compelling arguments.

PMdave 12-14-2006 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts (Post 11526256)
They are like Franck and get pissed off to no end that women prefer circumcised men. Then they rant and rave and cry about it and try to say circumcised men are pissed off.

Seriously why would any non-circumcised men be frustrated or get mad vecause of that? They can have it snipped anytime.
Now tell us how someone who is frustrated because he is circumcised will grow his turtleneck back.

Anthony 12-14-2006 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday (Post 11526125)
it's not crazy. Case in point.. My middle son was born at home, I went the all natural route and didnt get him circumcised. So for 5 years I had to clean his penis for him so that it didnt get an infection. I taught him how to clean it and pull back the skin each time he pees..well, I figured by age 5 he didnt want mom touching his penis anymore and I reminded him of what he needed to do and left him on his own..checking on him during bathing time and such. Little man didnt take care of it as well as he should and his skin was growing to the head of his penis..making it extremely painful to pee and bathe. When my boy was laying onthe table and the doctor stuck a needle straight into the middle of his little penis..then cut the foreskin off... I came unglued and vowed to myself to get this done when they are born , if I were to have another son. The pain little man was in as a 5 year old will always be something he remembers. I cant imagine a full grown man having this done, you would have to put them under knowing someone is coming after their dick with a scapel.

I got circumsised at 5 as well. I still have flashbacks, and remember walking funny afterwards. :(

Ninja Scripts 12-14-2006 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMdave (Post 11526269)
Seriously why would any non-circumcised men be frustrated or get mad vecause of that? They can have it snipped anytime.
Now tell us how someone who is frustrated because he is circumcised will grow his turtleneck back.

Do you lack comprehension skills? You tell me why they are pissed, I've yet to figure it the fuck out. All I am saying is that the arguments from uncircumcised people like Franck are the ones that are heated and 100% unfounded. I am not, nor will I ever be upset in the least about being circumcised. If I appear pissed off when I post it's because I'm sick of people like Franck forcing what they think should be my opinion on me without knowing shit.

Dirty F 12-14-2006 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts (Post 11526256)
They are like Franck and get pissed off to no end that women prefer circumcised men.


:1orglaugh

I have yet to meet 1 woman who had a complaint about my dick being intact :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Fucking moron.

Dirty F 12-14-2006 08:54 AM

only ones pissed are the ones with their skin intact which is why they are here posting in force.

Wtff??? Give me ONE reason i would be pissed off because i still have 100% of my cock? One good reason?

God, this is pathetic. :1orglaugh

Dirty F 12-14-2006 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts (Post 11526278)
All I am saying is that the arguments from uncircumcised people like Franck are the ones that are heated and 100% unfounded. .


:1orglaugh

Like which arguments exactly? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Dude seriously you either feel very fucking sorry for yourself or you are on some fucking bad crack. Jesus. Insane.

Violetta 12-14-2006 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather (Post 11525542)
You know a vagina has WAY WAY WAY WAY more bacteria than any penis. Shouldn't you cut out your pussylips and possibly cover the walls of your vagina with a plastic wrap so you wouldn't be so unhygienic and smell so bad?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Ninja Scripts 12-14-2006 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck (Post 11526305)
:1orglaugh

Like which arguments exactly? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Dude seriously you either feel very fucking sorry for yourself or you are on some fucking bad crack. Jesus. Insane.

Thanks for proving my point idiot.

Let me try this again

I am not pissed off, nor do I care that I was circumcised. It has not affected my life in the least, I love my cock, and the only time I even give this argument a thought is when idiots like you are on here telling me how pissed off I am at being circumcised. You are wrong, get it through your thick fucking skull.

Ninja Scripts 12-14-2006 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck (Post 11526290)
:1orglaugh

I have yet to meet 1 woman who had a complaint about my dick being intact :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Fucking moron.

Of course any woman that doesn't hold your forehead against you isn't going to have shit to say about your cock. Their standards are already as low as they can go. :thumbsup

L-Pink 12-14-2006 09:13 AM

Who want's a cock that looks like an ant-eater :1orglaugh

Dirty F 12-14-2006 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts (Post 11526353)
Of course any woman that doesn't hold your forehead against you isn't going to have shit to say about your cock. Their standards are already as low as they can go. :thumbsup

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Dude you are insane and i feel sorry for you...and your dick. :1orglaugh

Drake 12-14-2006 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 11526391)
Who want's a cock that looks like an ant-eater :1orglaugh

Not sure, but the most popular internet sites (nastydollars) feature European ant-eaters almost exclusively. Fans and women seem to eat it up.

Dirty F 12-14-2006 09:19 AM

I think its one of the most retarded things someone said to me EVER: "You are just mad because they didnt cut your dick" :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

BOSS1 12-14-2006 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts (Post 11526278)
Do you lack comprehension skills? You tell me why they are pissed, I've yet to figure it the fuck out. All I am saying is that the arguments from uncircumcised people like Franck are the ones that are heated and 100% unfounded. I am not, nor will I ever be upset in the least about being circumcised. If I appear pissed off when I post it's because I'm sick of people like Franck forcing what they think should be my opinion on me without knowing shit.

ur dick is smaller then it was supposed to be ... sucks does not it :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Phoenix66 12-14-2006 09:30 AM

It's funny to see the question "Why most Western Males are UNCIRCUMCISED?" when actually a correct question is "Why most Middle East Males are CIRCUMCISED?"

The answer is already given in this thread. Circumcision makes a lot of sense in territories where water is scarce and you cannot wash your dick often enough. And the tradition comes from those territories exactly. It was not known in ancient western Europe at all. Jews spread it out later.


"The direct medical benefits of neonatal circumcision are still under debate, with various studies reaching different opinions.".

There are risks and benefits which you can learn here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision


I can add that some time ago in USSR was a theory that an appendicitis is an atavism and is not required anymore, it only causes problems so it must be removed soon after birth, as a big percentage of people have problems with it and have to get it removed lated when it's not that easy as in early childhood. And they start removing it from newborns in some places. It resulted in serious health consequences in those kids later and they had to stop this practice.

Personally I don't think it's a good idea to mess with what was there from a nature, unless there are some serious reasons for this. Which, as I admit, are for a circumcision in those dry territories...

Dirty F 12-14-2006 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOSS1 (Post 11526440)
ur dick is smaller then it was supposed to be ... sucks does not it :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Dont make him feel worse than he already does man :1orglaugh

Hes trying so hard to pretend hes really happy with his dick cut in half and pretending people who didnt get their dick cut are upset and wish they were like him.

Ninja Scripts 12-14-2006 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck (Post 11526482)
Dont make him feel worse than he already does man :1orglaugh

Hes trying so hard to pretend hes really happy with his dick cut in half and pretending people who didnt get their dick cut are upset and wish they were like him.

Yawn. You are seriously pathetic.

Lazer_X 12-14-2006 09:36 AM

Not a day goes by i don't wish i still had my skin. In a lifetime I'd save hundreds of thousands of dollars on lube, lotion, spit, shampoo, etc..... SKIN RULEZ!

btw, I've seen videos of circumcisions... that is, i started to watch one, but didn't get more than a few seconds in. It's barbaric

L-Pink 12-14-2006 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazer_X (Post 11526499)
Not a day goes by i don't wish i still had my skin. In a lifetime I'd save hundreds of thousands of dollars on lube, lotion, spit, shampoo, etc..... SKIN RULEZ!

btw, I've seen videos of circumcisions... that is, i started to watch one, but didn't get more than a few seconds in. It's barbaric

Your first post is whining about no foreskin. Welcome to GFY :1orglaugh

Lazonby 12-14-2006 09:44 AM

It really boils down to the concept of adults having the right to mutilate their child.

Regardless of the minor difference caused by circumcision, it's alarming that in this day and age people defend the right of parents to mutilate their male children, but like I said twice already, the abused become the abusers. It's a kind of Stockholm Syndrome.

Ross 12-14-2006 09:44 AM

I think most American chicks prefer circumsized dicks to non. I guess its coz thats what they are used to. Whereas in Europe its different.

To each their own but just coz you aint had the snip doesn't means its not clean. I'm not cut and I keep my dick clean.

Lazonby 12-14-2006 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts (Post 11526494)
Yawn. You are seriously pathetic.

Sorry dude, but Franck has owned you hands down in this thread.

Dirty F 12-14-2006 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts (Post 11526494)
Yawn. You are seriously pathetic.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Coming from you i dont take that too seriously.

Oh wait, im just mad because i still have my dick intact :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Phoenix66 12-14-2006 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazonby (Post 11526561)
It really boils down to the concept of adults having the right to mutilate their child.

I agree with that. At least for the western countries. The benefits of circumcision are not that clear for those countries and the risks are always certain.

If someone want to circumcise himself in order to have better sex (let's suppose it's true) it can do it later on his own will. I have nothing aginst this as logn as it's man's own choise.

Some even insert things into their penises, you know...

Agent 488 12-14-2006 09:53 AM

most western parents are enlightened enough to not want to torture their children at such a young age. :2 cents:

Ninja Scripts 12-14-2006 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazonby (Post 11526583)
Sorry dude, but Franck has owned you hands down in this thread.

You are a fucking idiot. Attempting to put thoughts in my head is hardly owning shit.

Ninja Scripts 12-14-2006 09:56 AM

Watch Franck explode everyone.

"Answer
I read this correspondence with interest. I am English and circumcision now is rare in England. When I was born in the 1930's it was fairly common, about 50/50 and I was not circumcised at birth. My mother told me she had consulted our doctor and he didn't believe in it. I always wished I was circumcised and finally had it done at the age of 40 at my own request. There was nothing wrong with my penis, I just preferred the circumcised look. I think it was the best decision I ever took and everything repeat everything is so much better. I find that so many Americans because they were routinely circumcised at birth think they are missing something wonderful. Believe you me guys you are not! From my experience most women prefer a circumcised man, many will not do oral with uncut men because of the unpleasant stink and smegma. I am afraid many men in the UK never wash their penises and there are many that have not been able to retract their foreskins since birth! This should never happen. No doubt I will get a lot of abuse from the anti-circumcision brigade but I can only go on my own experience and repeat that since I was circumcised everything is so much better. Greetings from England "

Lazer_X 12-14-2006 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 11526507)
Your first post is whining about no foreskin. Welcome to GFY :1orglaugh



it's more 'lamenting'. really, but thanks :winkwink:

Ninja Scripts 12-14-2006 09:57 AM

Answer
Well up until the age of 26 i was uncircumcised, at the age of 24/25 i wanted to be circumcised i don`t know why and where this thought had come from i had 2 friends from school and uni that i knew were circumcised and i casually bought this up with them and asked them what it was like, one had been circumcised at birth and the other at the age of 11.

I talked it over with my girlfriend and told her what i thought and over time i plucked up enough courage to visit my doctor but because i wasnt suffering any foreskin related problems he didn`t really want to know.

Reading a magazine i came a cross a advert for a private clinic where they did amongst other things male circumcision,I decided that was for me so i talked again with my GF and she said how about a private hospital so the next morning she phoned the local private hospital and i was circumcised at the Lakeland Hospital.

Now at the age of 31 i think the circumcision was the best thing that happened to me, we have 3 children and our 17month old son is circumcised.

Sex is incredible i last longer, my penis is far easier to keep clean especially when or if we have summer, My wife prefers my circumcised look.

Ninja Scripts 12-14-2006 09:58 AM

Answer
Most women I know prefer circumcised males. I met a man a few months ago and I care deeply about him, but he's not circumcised and it is a problem. The texture of the foreskin is strange-it feels like a rubber glove. I thoroughly enjoy men's bodies and giving oral sex, but it seems like so much more work than it is with a circumcised male. I also feel like the foreskin is some sort of separate entity which keeps me from really touching "him." I'm trying to not let this ruin the relationship, because he's such a great guy.

Ninja Scripts 12-14-2006 10:00 AM

Answer
I prefer circumsised guys.... iprefer the look. Uncircumsised jsut makes me feel sick i dunno why, the foreskin just looks nasty. Im from the UK and a lot of people here are not circumsised, but its always nicer when they are


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