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Nicely put... That was prolly the most valid point made in this thread... |
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I have never anywhere on this board said it is beyond their legal abilities to request model ids. What I have said is:
It's a WRONG policy for them to have. Legal rights or not, it's NOT the RIGHT thing to do in my opinion. and It "MAY", and I've stressed that word, violate privacy laws of certain countries and/or states to turn over identification documents of models. As I keep saying, I'm not an attorney. I'll let those that are talk about legalities. I honestly don't even think this needs to be an issue of what's legal for them to ask for or not. It's a simple matter of what's good policy vs. what's bad policy. I think this is bad policy, and I think if they keep it, we as an industry should not support them. Simple as that. |
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As far as I can see, about 99% of the 'take his domain' crowd are asshat conservatives. The live and let live crowd, right? lol... I congratulate for showing TRUE Goldwater type conservatism on this issue rather than the Jerry Falwell type conservatism Pleasurepays and most of the others display.
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So it's better to have work and ignore these issues than to have a clean house? Very nice....really
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It just occured to me that you are like BoyAlley. You hate... but you rationalize your hate as being ok and "good hate" while the percieved hate of others is "wrong hate". Its soo weird in its obvious contradiction that its oddly fun to watch.
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What are your domains, Pat Robertson? Mr. Moral Majority? Huh?
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There nothing wrong with those terms from a business standpoint. This is about some guy who has underage looking chicks on his network. Probably generating thousands of complaints and internet porn protesters that will vote against us given the chance. Wether its legal or not, its no good for directnic or this industry imho. Never will undocumented underage looking nude chicks do any good for this business as a whole. its very black and white. Is this hard for you to grasp? |
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BoyAlley, great thread man
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The question is: Does your registrar have the right to take your domain from you? It's that black and white. |
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now its about morality? ... you have to politicize things and retreat to political "us against them" arguments that you are comfortable with because otherwise, the arguments relevant to the issues at hand are losing arguments.
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You're certainly entitled to not take issue with their policy, and register domains with them if you're comfortable. My position is this: If DirectNic doesn't want to be his registrar of record anymore because they're not comfortable with his content, they should tell him to move his domains someplace else, not put a lock on them so he can't do that, and then threaten to shut him down if he doesn't comply by sending them model IDs. If they think the content is CP, they should report it to the authorities and let them make a determination and take action, or not, from there. I personally would not be comfortable being with a registrar that has the types of policies that they've apparently put in place, that are manifesting themselves in what appear to be pseudo 2257 like inspections. ![]() |
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Boyalley, two thumbs up from here.
It is nice to see an educated person on this forum whom stands up for what they believe in. A response from direcnic is in order. They seem like a good company, and MikeAI is a great guy. The only thing i feel that should have been done is better communication on both parties. Also, people, keep in mind. This isn't an arguement about a domain, or a person, it is an arguement towards the policy of direcnic. |
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Like I said earlier, I took down all sponsor images from anything I had because I did not have the docs for them. The only images I use now are ones that I have docs for. Made a bunch of my images unusable because I could not get the content providers to give me the docs or could not locate the original provider to get them from. But I don't lose sleep worrying that someone will check and I won't be compliant.
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But sometimes good people come up with bad policy, that in 1 particular instance may seem appropriate, but on a larger scale, raise serious first amendment and privacy concerns. ![]() |
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At least DN is giving someone a chance to prove they are legal before pulling the plug. /.
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reminder: they asked for a governement issued id where the picture and date of birth were clearly visible. |
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The issue isn't that they asked for them. The issue is that they will take his domains for themselves if he doesn't produce them. Does that clarify things somewhat?
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But get lost with first amendment and privacy BS. |
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There are so many ironies in so many of the posts in these threads that i had to come out to laugh publicly.
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Assclown Bob Rice wants to BANG your credit card! "I am putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage." All the information above is my personal opinion.
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If a TOS said a company can take your first-born son if you dont dance naked on midsummers eve, it does not supercede the law.
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Am I the only one who sees the fallout of this whole thing?
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OK... So they are within their legal means...
Let's look at slavery... It was legal in 1820 but not everyone agreed with it and many in the North boycotted Southern companies that used slave labor. |
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The thread itself or some peoples newly found ethics?
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I must say this.. I do agree that the way they went about this all, being wrong.. BUT, I must say.. Everyone should do themselves a favor and put this fucking idiot on ignore..
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In years in this business i've heard Mikes names hundreads of times and it was never about anything bad. I'm in NO way saying what is beeing done is right, but judging before knowing all the facts is harsh for the person beeing judged.
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BoyAlley should open his own registrar
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Damn... this is easy shit to resolve - and, as far as I'm concerned - tho lot is fucking finished.
Means: All servers, domains, payment processors are removed from US jurisdiction That wasted almost an hour - but worth every dime. Suggest any non-US webmaster do exactly the same. The arrogance from the US (both at govt level and on domain registration) is a fucking joke and not worth wasting time reading any more spewage about laws or "rules". Have a nice day
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