Can we get a response from Directnic. This is just plain wrong.

Good luck with it Slick. If you decide to get a new registrar I recommend http://www.moniker.com.

Thanks Nation-X, I'll keep that in mind :)

Sorry to hear this happening to you Slick, you've always been one of the good guys in my book. I hope it all works out for the best for you man.

Interested to hear MikeAI's take on this. I too have a few domains with directnic and have thus far been quite happy with their service.

I will be speaking to the person responsible about locking this domain tommorow. Until I know the facts I cannot comment on the specific issues, but I would tend to beleive there was something that caught our attention, and our threshold is very high.


There is no registrar out there who understands the issues that legit adult webmasters face better than directNIC.com.

If there is anything to directnic being directly involved in demanding answer to challenges regarding 2257, my crystal ball suggests a mass exodus from directnic is in their immediate future.

This doesn't make any sense. Their only remedy *Should* have been to turn a guy over to the relevent authorites for investigation, complaints or no complaints. I don't see anything in the statutes that would give a registar the authority to mount an investigation of that nature.

It's one thing to say they want no adult, it's quite another to attempt psuedo enforcement of a criminal code. Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

I am curious, was this an email, US Mail, or registered mail?

I see you still got amateurcurves.com.... that's the domain name I thought up for you years ago, remember? :D


With all that traffic you should just buy directnic and then fire everyone responsible for messing with your bidness.



Okay back to being serious --- looks like MIke is going to look into it. Time to wait on his findings.

Mike, thanks for getting to this post. Hopefully we can get this cleared up. My attorney sent over an email to Juli on my behalf, so you can contact him if needed.

I do understand your concern for underage content, but I think that you're people are going about it all wrong.

It was just a standard email. I do agree with you, it doesn't make any sense.

Hmm 4 posts.

Funny. If adult webmasters are slinging CP or anything that panders on the line of CP and we get a complaint ( in most cases we are contacted by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children or the FBI) the domain is going to be locked until the issue is resolved.

If you feel a mass exodus is warranted, then by all means transfer your domains ASAP I am sure godaddy or moniker would love your business.

Ha ha ha, yeah, that's right :) That was like 7 years ago, boy time sure flies by.

That's a good idea about buying directnic, ha ha ha.

One thing that kinda does get me though is that I've been a DirectNic customer for 7 years now, you'd think they'd at least take that into consideration before threatening to shut me down. It's a damn good thing I wasn't on a long vacation without my laptop, I would've came back Monday to dead sites, OUCH.

Ok.. Great to see MikeAI is here!!

Wheeew.. The fact that he didnt point at me and say "YOU'RE NEXT" makes me feel better.. LOL....

I hope this gets resolved..

Glad to see Mike AI here..

boneprone, your next.

Feel better?

:)

Alex

MikeAI is the absolute last person on the Internet I would want monitoring whether my "content" is ok or not. He has a history, I won't bring it up here out of respect for his wife, but it's not the kind of history that warrants playing "web cop".

Who the fuck appointed you or your company as the Internet Police?

If it's something illegal then turn it over to the proper authorities, they'll arrest him if it's illegal and you'll be he "good guy" in this situation, but this guy paid you to register his domain... not to register his domain AND play internet police.

You guys are walking a really slippery slope... and a poorly chosen one in my opinion.

Fuck me once, shame on you... Fuck me twice... Shame on me!

Three years ago, GoDaddy suspended WEGCash.com

At the time, all their webmasters' join4free links ran through that domain. It was a big headache for a while until they worked things out. So it's not just hearsay.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=182555

Domain Name: WEGCASH.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM
Name Server: NS2.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 03-oct-2003
Creation Date: 19-jul-2000
Expiration Date: 19-jul-2005

Well, whatever the outcome of this, someone needs to underline the fact that Slick is an affiliate only. The content in question isn't even his, it belongs to and was produced by his sponsors. If anyone has to be made to answer as to the legality of the content it should be the programs that own it, not some affiliate trying to run his TGPs and using said content in good faith.

I'm sure there are 100's of other webmasters using that same or similar promotional material as well, as I'm sure many of us are affiliates of the same programs Slick is. I can't see it being a fair idea to single out Slick as the culprit.

Any pics or vids in question will have to be identified as to which program they came from, and from there it should be a snap to have that program (or programs) provide 2257 information on it. Should be a simple process to solve the issue, and not something that requires ceizing and locking and shutting down of a guy's domains and business.

But I will say this... I think I would much rather answer to someone who is adult-friendly (like Mike AI) than to have him pass the complaint along to some convoluted beaurocratic branch of the government and have to then deal with THEM and their red tape, anal probes, etc.

Hoping for an update on this. There are three sides to every story, and I'll wait to make up my mind until I hear at least one more side.

Are you and your company for real???

Yes, if you are contacted by NCMEP or the FBI and someone is under investigation then lock the domain, but what the fuck gives you the right to ask to personally see evidence of age verification documents?

You and your company are not a legal investigative body, so stop trying to be one.:2 cents:

Directnic fucked up big time..

I'd be filing papers in court, then I'd be on the phone with the board of bar oversears to get juli criminally charged for false & deceptive representation. She is not an attorney & should not be acting in a legal capacity. Further, ALL legal communication MUST be served on PAPER, not fucking email..


Sue the fucking pants off these assholes.

It seems everyone wants to debate whether or not a register has the authority to shut down a domain for what they believe is illegal activities.

That is fine, but I think you people are missing the bigger issue here. [WHAT IF] it is CP. Forget about directnic and your domain, your ass is fucked.

The bigger picture I think here is that affiliates "trust" people and companies they do not know on questionable content. You income, business, and freedom is a lot to put in someone else's hands. What do you tell the police on when they knock on t he door. " but there is an injuction" not against CP. And if the sponsors fucked up and their photographer or the photographer they bought the content from fucked up or slipped in some young shit, lost paper work, whatever, and the girl turns out to be 16 where does that leave you?

the bigger issue I think people should be worrying about --> http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...7#post11517607

man this shit is fucked up......

I hope u get your problem solved asap... keep us updated slick

keep us posted

I know a guy who has been having unprotected sex with hookers for the last 5 years. He is still alive and doing great. STD's don't exist !

not to mention that GoDaddy should be boycotted for openly supporting the .xxx domain idea

looks like people have a short memory

Unless of course you agreed to allow them to do all that. :thumbsup

From Directnic's terms of service:

https://secure.directnic.com/legal/index.php#CP


9 CONTENT OBTAINED WITHOUT RELIABLE CONSENT.

a You agree that if we determine that your use of our Services or System is in any way connected or affiliated with the display, promotion, or dissemination of content obtained without reliable consent from each participant-e.g., sexual or nude images involving children under the age of 18, bestiality, murder, rape-we may charge your account a penalty in the amount of US $1,000.00 for every domain name in violation of this section. You further agree that we may collect these penalties by any means we deem necessary, including but not limited to charging any credit card you have on file with us or auctioning your domains.

b You agree that we reserve the right to immediately discontinue your use of our Services or System and seize control of your account(s) and all domain names within your account(s) immediately and without notice to you upon a determination that you have violated this section. You further agree that if you fail to pay us any penalties assessed under this section, we may auction off any and all of the domain names within your account(s) to satisfy your debt to us.

c You agree that we may take all necessary steps to investigate, document, and report any findings that you have violated this section, including but not limited to disclosing your account information to any and all appropriate law enforcement agencies.

this also seems to be a bit of a hint from their website:

http://www.intercosmos.com/site/index.html
In the future its probably better to stick with hosts that actively seek out adult clients, like the ones that advertise on GFY or other webmaster boards, etc...

good luck!

wtf
I have my most important domains with directnic for a reason, so I can sleep well at night
seems this is about to change.

funny, i always thought directnic was started by some former adult webmasters.

Yeh, this is not funny, im in the process of changing registrar now :)

It was and is generally adult friendly.

I can see a trend here, companies starting in adult getting big with the help of adult webmasters and the ditching adult.

Same here. Never had a single problem with them.

Slick is a legit, and very helpful guy.

Hope everything gets resolved well for you soon.
Good luck buddy.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

bump.....

Slick, I hope you get it worked out. You're a good guy in my book.

I'd seriously consider keeping all your domains at Moniker.com, they're the safest registrar these days and I highly doubt they'd pull something like this.

I'd hate to pay double the regfee for a service that pulls shit like that on me. :)

EbusDk can afford hookers? :1orglaugh