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rowan 12-12-2006 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11516181)
Well, I just put my domains at low security, it says it takes 15 minutes to take effect, we'll see if they did lock me or not.

If they are still "legal locked" (lol, what a term) then you should consider setting up a new TGP on a domain registered elsewhere, possibly another host too, and start funnelling traffic towards it. Just be prepared for the worst.

BTW her sig says "The Producers, Inc" - if you do a web search that appears to be a marketing company. I guess it's just someone wearing more than one hat but you may also wish to follow that up. The street address in her sig and the contact address on http://www.pros1.com/ do not match.

JD 12-12-2006 06:55 PM

what the fuck.....

Slick 12-12-2006 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 11516217)
If they are still "legal locked" (lol, what a term) then you should consider setting up a new TGP on a domain registered elsewhere, possibly another host too, and start funnelling traffic towards it. Just be prepared for the worst.

BTW her sig says "The Producers, Inc" - if you do a web search that appears to be a marketing company. I guess it's just someone wearing more than one hat but you may also wish to follow that up. The street address in her sig and the contact address on http://www.pros1.com/ do not match.

Thanks, I'll dig more into that :)

I just tried to move away one of my domains to Namecheap. We'll see if it goes through, if so, I'll get the rest moved over ASAP.

johndoebob 12-12-2006 07:03 PM

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The legal department has been requested to review your domain site for possible illegal content.
Indicates to me that Directnic received a complaint and instead of directing the person to a responsible government agency they try to investigate it themselves and making threats that they shouldn't make.

Change the registrar, tell them that they can't receive the 2257 documents from you because they are not a government agency and you have to protect the models privacy, but they can try their luck with the linked content owners. If a responsible agency would contact you, you would of course show them all the 2257 documents.

Because the girls on majorpervert seem underage, the average user might think that they indeed are, but in fact they just look young.

stickyfingerz 12-12-2006 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11516193)
Uhm. Am I the only one that has a problem with 3rd party companies requesting private identification documents for people depicted on a website?

Now any asshat that wants thinks they can request the driver's license, social security number, other personal information, contact details, copies of contracts, physical descriptions, and the favorite food of any model they want any time they want for whatever reason they want?

Making the personal information of models available to federal inspectors is one thing, starting to hand it out freely without any legal cause or reason to any company that requests it is another matter entirely.

Aren't there privacy laws in many states in this country that would forbid this type of disemenation? I'm thinking yes........

I totally agree with BA on this. Huge privacy issue. Its bad enough right now anyone with 20 bucks can buy content and get the 2257 info of any porno chick they want to track down as it is. :disgust

Slick 12-12-2006 07:04 PM

I suppose that I should email them and see what they say. I just don't know what I should tell them. They want a current state issued photo id for every model on my page, that's something I definately don't got.

Anyone know of a good adult related attorney ???

Slick 12-12-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by johndoebob (Post 11516279)
Indicates to me that Directnic received a complaint and instead of directing the person to a responsible government agency they try to investigate it themselves and making threats that they shouldn't make.

Change the registrar, tell them that they can't receive the 2257 documents from you because they are not a government agency and you have to protect the models privacy, but they can try their luck with the linked content owners. If a responsible agency would contact you, you would of course show them all the 2257 documents.

Because the girls on majorpervert seem underage, the average user might think that they indeed are, but in fact they just look young.

Great comments, I'll definately keep that in mind when I contact them.

I just hate how everyone is so fast to cry out "underage girl" nowadays.

stickyfingerz 12-12-2006 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11516286)
I suppose that I should email them and see what they say. I just don't know what I should tell them. They want a current state issued photo id for every model on my page, that's something I definately don't got.

Anyone know of a good adult related attorney ???

www.chadknowslaw.com

FreeFastHost 12-12-2006 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 11516164)
How so? I have over 700 adult domains with Go Daddy. No problems.

I always hear people saying stay away from Go Daddy, but I've never seen any actual reasons or experiences to make me stay away. Its always hearsay.

Same here, I have 450 adult domains with godaddy and have never had the slightest problem with them.

crockett 12-12-2006 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11516286)
I suppose that I should email them and see what they say. I just don't know what I should tell them. They want a current state issued photo id for every model on my page, that's something I definately don't got.

Anyone know of a good adult related attorney ???

Lawrence Walters seems to be one of the most popular adult attorneys.

http://www.FirstAmendment.com/

marketsmart 12-12-2006 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11516015)
if they are your host and you don't have 2257 - they SHOULD shut you down

post the site in question. they make it sound like you deal in kiddy porn. :2 cents:

lets see how you feel when mgp's take over tgp's.... you are a smart guy, but sometimes your posts amaze me with stupidity....

sicone 12-12-2006 07:14 PM

Being that your a member...

HAVE YOU CONTACTED THE FSC YET???

Slick 12-12-2006 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 11516326)
Being that your a member...

HAVE YOU CONTACTED THE FSC YET???

Nope, not yet. Would they help fight for me in this case ?

Slick 12-12-2006 07:17 PM

Thanks for the attorney links people, I appreciate them :)

rockbear 12-12-2006 07:17 PM

Can someone could contact the owner of directnic and tell him about that post. Cuz I think that he will lose a lot of customers in the next days and a lot of money.

johndoebob 12-12-2006 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11516286)
Anyone know of a good adult related attorney ???

You don't need one as you did nothing wrong. If the FBI should show up some day and wants to inspect documents (unlikely) you just have to make sure that you have them / can immediately can download them as I don't think you can tell them that they should go to the producers as you're a secondary one according to the new 2257 laws.

The Duck 12-12-2006 07:18 PM

slick can you ICQ me please

sicone 12-12-2006 07:18 PM

I dont know if they can or how they would help.. but it seems that this company is now assuming the role of the government.

I would at least seek advice from them, especially if your domains are locked/blocked or anything else done with them

aico 12-12-2006 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 11516150)
Godaddy isn't known for their friendliness to adult sites. I'd stick to namecheap out of the two..

Never had a problem with GoDaddy.com

Have talked with them on the phone on many many occasions getting bulk renews, etc... they read thru all my domains on the phone, and have never had any issue with them.

BluMedia 12-12-2006 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rockbear (Post 11516351)
Can someone could contact the owner of directnic and tell him about that post. Cuz I think that he will lose a lot of customers in the next days and a lot of money.


We use DirectNic too and I would defintely like to know exactly what is going on.

Mark

JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES 12-12-2006 07:22 PM

there's no way this is covered by their TOS, is it?.

'we reserve the right to audit the identification of any nude model you display in your site...'

Quick Buck 12-12-2006 07:28 PM

directnic are the scum of the earth.

They have not done this to me but they like to play god and do so on a regular basis, there is absolutely no *less* friendly registar for your domains.

A few years ago they shut down 10 of my friend's domains because they had "received complaints about popups", they had absolutely no idea what the domains were, that they were *EXIT POPUPS*, but that didn't stop them from freezing the domains and ALSO CHANGING THE DNS so that they effectively shut his business down for days.

Thankfully they have a reasonably smart guy there named Sigmund Solaris who usually with a phone call can take care of things (he owns it along with Mike AI and a few other former porn guys).

My advice to you is to call them and politely inform them that this is a terrible mistake and then get your domains away from them as fast as you possibly can.

If they don't let you transfer your domains report them to icann, if they don't unlock your domains then report them to icann and sue them. Playing internet police is beyond the rights afforded to domain name registrars.

Nylz 12-12-2006 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brizzad (Post 11516187)
transfer all of your domians, switch hosts, and send them a letter that says FUCK YOU FAGGOT BITCH hahahahahahaS and include polaroids of nude 14-17 year old girls

OMGGGGGGG :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

After Shock Media 12-12-2006 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11516286)
I suppose that I should email them and see what they say. I just don't know what I should tell them. They want a current state issued photo id for every model on my page, that's something I definately don't got.

Anyone know of a good adult related attorney ???

Current ID? HAHA, are they suggesting content producers as well as secondary producers not only keep all ID's but track down models every few years to get a new copy of their current ID?

You can switch to an adult attorney latter, get any lawyer you can right now that is capable of filing an injunction and or restraining order against them (whichever is needed, can not recall which would be called for).

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicone (Post 11516326)
Being that your a member...

HAVE YOU CONTACTED THE FSC YET???

Is that a joke?
Actually go ahead and then PLEASE post back your results if and when you ever get through.

Serge Litehead 12-12-2006 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11516029)
Actually the domains in question are through DirectNic which they do list on their page, but don't say they're a part of their company.

http://www.directnic.com/ ?2006 Intercosmos Media Group. All rights reserved.

BlackCrayon 12-12-2006 07:42 PM

thats pure insanity. im sure in some way directnic is breaking laws by requestiing this information. its not their role to play 2257 FBI officers.

jscott 12-12-2006 07:45 PM

WOW that is fucked up, Slick I know your sites and have never seen anything illegal or near illegal on them

Slick 12-12-2006 07:47 PM

Well, I tried transferring one of my domains over to NameCheap an hour ago, but never got any emails in from DirectNic about finishing it up, so I guess this is real and they do have locks on me.

I guess that I'll just have to contact them and see what they reply. I just don't know what the hell I should put in there.

boneprone 12-12-2006 07:47 PM

Can someone forward this thread to Mike AI??

I also am a direct NIC customer.. Ive always liked Direct NIC, one of the best in the biz ive always thought..

Before we start bashing em, lets get one of them in here to discuss whats happening..


Ill be honest, IM pretty concerned here myself... This would be a horrible position to be in..

I know slick.. I feel for him here...

More so, I dont want to be next..

We need some light shed on this issue.

ASAP....

Do I need to have my finger on the transfer button??

Jesus.. Whats going on?

Slick 12-12-2006 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 11516491)
WOW that is fucked up, Slick I know your sites and have never seen anything illegal or near illegal on them

Thanks man :thumbsup

And thanks to the rest of you for the support, I greatly appreciate it :)

selena 12-12-2006 08:01 PM

Surely this is some kind of mistake.

If not, what a nightmare.

crockett 12-12-2006 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 11516503)
Can someone forward this thread to Mike AI??
Do I need to have my finger on the transfer button??

Mine's already sitting on the button..

zEn84 12-12-2006 08:27 PM

Keep this shit near the top.. bumpppp

DirtyProfits 12-12-2006 08:30 PM

Sorry to say that but to be honest it is your own fault that you're in this situation now! There are quite a lot of questionable thumbs on many of your tgps and if you crop 19 year old models in a way that they look like underage 14 year old girlies you cannot seriously wonder why DirectNic got complaints and reacts.
Furthermore at least one of your trades (teensss.com) has thumbnails of underage girls on it. To be exact, it is from a company named Holy Nature and I know for a fact that those russian girls were not of legal age when those photos got shot.

Don't get me wrong, I feel for you and I hope you get this solved asap because as we all know the content listed on your tgps is from famous sponsors and legal. This situation sucks for you and many of us could be in the same situation sooner or later but I hope some people will take this as a warning and change the way they crop their thumbs and find other ways to increase productivity and not just by making the girls appear to be as young as possible.

Quick Buck 12-12-2006 08:35 PM

DirtyProfits... you're suggesting that because he LINKS to somebody that has questionable content that it's ok for his REGISTRAR to suspend his domains?


The bottom line here is that they are absolutely not the Internet police, nobody gave them that right, they don't own the domain, HE does, they are just the lucky 1 in a million registrar he chose to pay his fee to in order to register the domain through verisign.

I don't care if he's promoting rape and incest or anti-quickbuck propaganda... the registrar is not the place that the responsibility falls for policing.

If the registrar was *really* concerned they should just turn the site over to the asacp or the fbi.

I sure hope they never dislike any of YOUR content... or you might be next!

Slick 12-12-2006 08:46 PM

A little update for ya. A good friend of mine referred me to an attorney friend out in L.A. We talked on the phone for a bit and we're now compossing an email reply to send back to them. I'll keep you posted as to what happens.

Slick 12-12-2006 08:56 PM

DirtyProfits, my thumb script automatically crops EVERY single image on every one of my sites. I drop in the urls, it'll whip up a thumb for each image, then rotate them up one at a time to find the best thumb, then it deletes the rest and keeps the best thumb, so it's the surfers that determine what stays on the page.

As far as what my trades have on their pages, Quick Buck is right, they're responsible for what's on their pages. I do look over the sites when they sign up and click on a few of their links to see where they're gonna send my traffic before activating them. I do check over my active trades from time to time to make sure things are legit, but I have hundreds of active trades which are hard to police.

RawAlex 12-12-2006 08:56 PM

Slick, I am with Johndoebob on this one. It would appear to me that Directnic got a complaint, and they are acting on it. Read your domain registry agreements carefully, they are not obliged to continue to offer sites that contain illegal material.

You most seriously need a lawyer, because I know that Intercosmos is at least partially run by laywers. So you need to take prompt action to avoid issues.

sarettah 12-12-2006 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockbear (Post 11516351)
Can someone could contact the owner of directnic and tell him about that post. Cuz I think that he will lose a lot of customers in the next days and a lot of money.

done....

sarettah 12-12-2006 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 11516503)
Can someone forward this thread to Mike AI??

I also am a direct NIC customer.. Ive always liked Direct NIC, one of the best in the biz ive always thought..

Before we start bashing em, lets get one of them in here to discuss whats happening..


Ill be honest, IM pretty concerned here myself... This would be a horrible position to be in..

I know slick.. I feel for him here...

More so, I dont want to be next..

We need some light shed on this issue.

ASAP....

Do I need to have my finger on the transfer button??

Jesus.. Whats going on?

done....... email sent


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