FlashCash update: sales disappear from the stats - GoFuckYourself.com

DarkJedi · 12-06-2006, 09:57 AM

this is what i posted earlier today:

shows 22 sales for today

stats have just updated, sales disappeared:

what the fuck...

NTM · 12-06-2006, 10:03 AM

It's impossible to shave with NATS!

jact · 12-06-2006, 10:05 AM

That's not good.

Roald · 12-06-2006, 10:05 AM

Sales dissappeared??? Probebly a glitch as it showed a fucked up ratio already.

FlashCash? Nats?

CaptainHowdy · 12-06-2006, 10:05 AM

Ouch...

...

who · 12-06-2006, 10:05 AM

interesting ratios.

beta-tester · 12-06-2006, 10:05 AM

not good at all.....we DEFINITELY need serious explanation!!!

Dejan · 12-06-2006, 10:06 AM

That suck man try to contact them...

xclusive · 12-06-2006, 10:07 AM

Wow, 20 sales just gone.

Holly · 12-06-2006, 10:08 AM

In the words of my good friend, Ricky Ricardo-

Looks like somebody's got some 'splaining to do.

DarkJedi · 12-06-2006, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dejan2885

That suck man try to contact them...

It's all over their message board, and NATS sure must have noticed todays topics on this.

They just wont give any comment.

JUSTB · 12-06-2006, 10:09 AM

it looks like the only numbers that changed were today's

DarkJedi · 12-06-2006, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by QuaShe

Sales dissappeared??? Probebly a glitch as it showed a fucked up ratio already.

FlashCash? Nats?

It looks like the kind of glitch when someone is fucking with the code/system.

it's NATS we are talking about for fucks sake.

pornguy · 12-06-2006, 10:13 AM

Those ratios look a bit out of whack.

pocketkangaroo · 12-06-2006, 10:16 AM

Enough with the "glitch" stuff. Doesn't it seem like anytime there is a "glitch", it is one that fucks over affiliates? When was the last time there was a "glitch" that doubled your sales for the day.

Buddy · 12-06-2006, 10:17 AM

Guys, I think it's obvious that if you send only 24 hits and get 45 sales, then you know that there is a glitch in the stats display.

During the deinstallation of the anti-fraud system some sales were verified many times over, so a single sale showed up as several sales. The glitch is fixed and NATS are setting the data to be correct again. I will post when the process is 100% complete, which will be later today.

We are happy to provide you with raw processing logs so you can see that all your signups have been correctly counted.

And Dark Jedi - the Flashcash help desk is: help at flashcash dot com, it is not www.gfy.com

DarkJedi · 12-06-2006, 10:18 AM

How is it even possible to remove the sales from NATS?

I though sales could only be added.

Buddy · 12-06-2006, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddy

We are happy to provide you with raw processing logs so you can see that all your signups have been correctly counted.

See above.

Roald · 12-06-2006, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Enough with the "glitch" stuff. Doesn't it seem like anytime there is a "glitch", it is one that fucks over affiliates? When was the last time there was a "glitch" that doubled your sales for the day.

Actually 3 months ago, rebills showed up double for 1 program. Not NATS though ;)))

StuartD · 12-06-2006, 10:23 AM

If those sales truly were a result of lack of fraud tracking, it's possible that those sales were removed because they were not legit sales in the first place.

beta-tester · 12-06-2006, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

How is it even possible to remove the sales from NATS?

I though sales could only be added.

well I guess, it's database side that got fucked up a little bit....it's simple query to add or remove sales...not a big deal.

Dirty F · 12-06-2006, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddy

Guys, I think it's obvious that if you send only 24 hits and get 45 sales, then you know that there is a glitch in the stats display.

During the deinstallation of the anti-fraud system some sales were verified many times over, so a single sale showed up as several sales. The glitch is fixed and NATS are setting the data to be correct again. I will post when the process is 100% complete, which will be later today.

We are happy to provide you with raw processing logs so you can see that all your signups have been correctly counted.

And Dark Jedi - the Flashcash help desk is: help at flashcash dot com, it is not www.gfy.com

Why did you remote the anti-fraud system??

DarkJedi · 12-06-2006, 10:26 AM

oh, a "glitch"

okay...

marko13 · 12-06-2006, 10:27 AM

maybe the sales will go down again.... although i'm not wishing that to anyone...

Roald · 12-06-2006, 10:28 AM

allthough I do tend to believe FC right now as your ratio seemed a bit too good to be true this whole thing still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and not only due to FC

jact · 12-06-2006, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Why did you remote the anti-fraud system??

Might have been a case of "Give me what I wanted, not what I asked for!".

Roald · 12-06-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by marko13

maybe the sales will go down again.... although i'm not wishing that to anyone...

what?....?

nico-t · 12-06-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

oh, a "glitch"

okay...

like it always is...... and like someone mentioned already, it's very coincidental that it always works out unfortunate for the affiliate

aico · 12-06-2006, 10:36 AM

That's more of a Trim than a Shave.

Dveron · 12-06-2006, 10:36 AM

Don't think FS are up to anything shady. They are good people just caught up in some programming errors. Seems like DJ is too busy taking screenshots and running to the board like some noob bitch instead of contacting support first.

SlamDesigns · 12-06-2006, 10:37 AM

*Makes mental note* Fuck FlashCash.

Roald · 12-06-2006, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dveron

Don't think FS are up to anything shady. They are good people just caught up in some programming errors. Seems like DJ is too bust taking screenshits and running to the board like some noob bitch instead of contacting support first.

GFY = almost instant reply
Support = waiting for hours/days/weeks/ever

Theo · 12-06-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dveron

Don't think FS are up to anything shady. They are good people just caught up in some programming errors. Seems like DJ is too busy taking screenshots and running to the board like some noob bitch instead of contacting support first.

and iraq has weapons of mass destruction

Roald · 12-06-2006, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

and iraq has weapons of mass destruction

CORRECT!

VIVA LA BUSH!!!!!

pocketkangaroo · 12-06-2006, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dveron

Don't think FS are up to anything shady. They are good people just caught up in some programming errors. Seems like DJ is too busy taking screenshots and running to the board like some noob bitch instead of contacting support first.

Is this one of those things where they bought a drink at a show so they are completely void of any possible shady tactics ever?

Seriously, whether you care for DJ or not (most don't), he posted factual evidence of his sales being removed from the system. If they were shaving, do you really think they would have replied "oh you caught us, we'll put those sales back".

I don't know anything about FlashCash, but I know that it looks fishy anytime there is a "glitch" that ends up in a loss of sales on your totals.

tony_monta-na · 12-06-2006, 10:52 AM

I will stop promoting Flashcash from now on (after 2,5 years) because any other program than "Free trials" doesn't work for me. Plus, what the fuck do you need a copy of my passport for?

Dveron · 12-06-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Is this one of those things where they bought a drink at a show so they are completely void of any possible shady tactics ever?

Seriously, whether you care for DJ or not (most don't), he posted factual evidence of his sales being removed from the system. If they were shaving, do you really think they would have replied "oh you caught us, we'll put those sales back".

I don't know anything about FlashCash, but I know that it looks fishy anytime there is a "glitch" that ends up in a loss of sales on your totals.

Never sent them a hit or seen them at a show but in the 8 years I've been doing this I've never seen anybody post that Flashcash shave or have fucked them over but then again I don't spend much time on the boards. This seems more like NATS fuckup to me and FC are caught in the middle.

tony_monta-na · 12-06-2006, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Is this one of those things where they bought a drink at a show so they are completely void of any possible shady tactics ever?

Seriously, whether you care for DJ or not (most don't), he posted factual evidence of his sales being removed from the system. If they were shaving, do you really think they would have replied "oh you caught us, we'll put those sales back".

I don't know anything about FlashCash, but I know that it looks fishy anytime there is a "glitch" that ends up in a loss of sales on your totals.

Yeah, you're fucking right. Looks kinda fishy.

xclusive · 12-06-2006, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe

GFY = almost instant reply
Support = waiting for hours/days/weeks/ever

Amazing how that works

crockett · 12-06-2006, 11:33 AM

Maybe they decided they didn't like spam..

crockett · 12-06-2006, 11:41 AM

BTW DJ why don't you show some stats from a week back or something. Lets see if the ratio is still the same.

1:1 even with spam is a bit hard to believe and that's the only thing I've ever seen that can get close to those ratios. Especially with that many sales..

DarkJedi · 12-06-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

BTW DJ why don't you show some stats from a week back or something. Lets see if the ratio is still the same.

1:1 even with spam is a bit hard to believe and that's the only thing I've ever seen that can get close to those ratios. Especially with that many sales..

actually, i used to be doing pretty good, before the NATS update.
but after the switch? things went to shit.

tony_monta-na · 12-06-2006, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

actually, i used to be doing pretty good, before the NATS update.
but after the switch? things went to shit.

That's because there aren't free trials anymore...

crockett · 12-06-2006, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

actually, i used to be doing pretty good, before the NATS update.
but after the switch? things went to shit.

ok then that shows your point but IMO it seems it's some sort of stats issues, because even in this pic you are showing 1:3 ratio. The newer ones with NATs are showing 1:1 overal.

But there are even days with 1:0 ratio, so of course that's not possiabe. So I'd have to think it's a stats reporting issue.. But who knows what's up.

Dildozer · 12-06-2006, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

this is what i posted earlier today:

shows 22 sales for today

stats have just updated, sales disappeared:

what the fuck...

Woah woah big player, don't spend it all in one place!

DarkJedi · 12-06-2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tony_monta-na

That's because there aren't free trials anymore...

They had had free trials for 9 months after the switch to NATS.
Free trials were removed only 2 days ago.

Sales started to suck immediately with the NATS switch. It's weird, because with all the added NATS benefits (cascade billing, etc) sale should have gone up.

adultchica · 12-06-2006, 01:08 PM

Flashcash has always been good to me and they always back up whatever claims they have. I'm sure that it was a glitch and they will explain what happened. I really do think the crew at Flashcash is professional and honest.

Tuga · 12-06-2006, 01:08 PM

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-06-2006, 01:14 PM

nice stats darkjedi

12-06-2006, 09:57 AM	#1
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	FlashCash update: sales disappear from the stats this is what i posted earlier today: shows 22 sales for today stats have just updated, sales disappeared: what the fuck...

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12-06-2006, 10:16 AM	#15
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Enough with the "glitch" stuff. Doesn't it seem like anytime there is a "glitch", it is one that fucks over affiliates? When was the last time there was a "glitch" that doubled your sales for the day.

12-06-2006, 10:17 AM	#16
Buddy Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: FlashCa$h Headquarters Posts: 1,828	Guys, I think it's obvious that if you send only 24 hits and get 45 sales, then you know that there is a glitch in the stats display. During the deinstallation of the anti-fraud system some sales were verified many times over, so a single sale showed up as several sales. The glitch is fixed and NATS are setting the data to be correct again. I will post when the process is 100% complete, which will be later today. We are happy to provide you with raw processing logs so you can see that all your signups have been correctly counted. And Dark Jedi - the Flashcash help desk is: help at flashcash dot com, it is not www.gfy.com __________________ -165486536 Disce quotidie * Ride quotidie * Ama quotidie * Cresce quotidie FlashCa$h Who the hell am I?

12-06-2006, 10:18 AM	#17
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	How is it even possible to remove the sales from NATS? I though sales could only be added.

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12-06-2006, 10:26 AM	#23
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	oh, a "glitch" okay...

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Roald SecretFriends.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: IMC Headquarters Posts: 27,888	allthough I do tend to believe FC right now as your ratio seemed a bit too good to be true this whole thing still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and not only due to FC __________________ WE ARE BUYING PAY SITES! CONTACT ME ClubSweethearts \| ManUpFilms \| SinfulXXX \| HOT * AdultPrime * HOT Paying webmasters since 1996! Contact: r.riepen @ sansylgroup.com \| telegram: roaldr

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Dveron Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,794	Don't think FS are up to anything shady. They are good people just caught up in some programming errors. Seems like DJ is too busy taking screenshots and running to the board like some noob bitch instead of contacting support first.

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12-06-2006, 11:41 AM	#41
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	BTW DJ why don't you show some stats from a week back or something. Lets see if the ratio is still the same. 1:1 even with spam is a bit hard to believe and that's the only thing I've ever seen that can get close to those ratios. Especially with that many sales.. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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