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DarkJedi 12-06-2006 09:57 AM

FlashCash update: sales disappear from the stats
 
this is what i posted earlier today:

shows 22 sales for today
http://www.darksidedata.com/gfy/flashcash4.gif



stats have just updated, sales disappeared:

http://www.darksidedata.com/gfy/flashcash6.gif


what the fuck...

NTM 12-06-2006 10:03 AM

It's impossible to shave with NATS!

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl20...5007100510.jpg

jact 12-06-2006 10:05 AM

That's not good.

Roald 12-06-2006 10:05 AM

Sales dissappeared??? Probebly a glitch as it showed a fucked up ratio already.

FlashCash? Nats?

CaptainHowdy 12-06-2006 10:05 AM

Ouch... :(...

who 12-06-2006 10:05 AM

interesting ratios.

beta-tester 12-06-2006 10:05 AM

not good at all.....we DEFINITELY need serious explanation!!!

Dejan 12-06-2006 10:06 AM

That suck man try to contact them...

xclusive 12-06-2006 10:07 AM

Wow, 20 sales just gone.

Holly 12-06-2006 10:08 AM

In the words of my good friend, Ricky Ricardo-

Looks like somebody's got some 'splaining to do.

DarkJedi 12-06-2006 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dejan2885 (Post 11471135)
That suck man try to contact them...

It's all over their message board, and NATS sure must have noticed todays topics on this.

They just wont give any comment.

JUSTB 12-06-2006 10:09 AM

it looks like the only numbers that changed were today's

DarkJedi 12-06-2006 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe (Post 11471122)
Sales dissappeared??? Probebly a glitch as it showed a fucked up ratio already.

FlashCash? Nats?

It looks like the kind of glitch when someone is fucking with the code/system.

it's NATS we are talking about for fucks sake.

pornguy 12-06-2006 10:13 AM

Those ratios look a bit out of whack.

pocketkangaroo 12-06-2006 10:16 AM

Enough with the "glitch" stuff. Doesn't it seem like anytime there is a "glitch", it is one that fucks over affiliates? When was the last time there was a "glitch" that doubled your sales for the day.

Buddy 12-06-2006 10:17 AM

Guys, I think it's obvious that if you send only 24 hits and get 45 sales, then you know that there is a glitch in the stats display.

During the deinstallation of the anti-fraud system some sales were verified many times over, so a single sale showed up as several sales. The glitch is fixed and NATS are setting the data to be correct again. I will post when the process is 100% complete, which will be later today.

We are happy to provide you with raw processing logs so you can see that all your signups have been correctly counted.

And Dark Jedi - the Flashcash help desk is: help at flashcash dot com, it is not www.gfy.com

DarkJedi 12-06-2006 10:18 AM

How is it even possible to remove the sales from NATS?

I though sales could only be added.

Buddy 12-06-2006 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddy (Post 11471295)

We are happy to provide you with raw processing logs so you can see that all your signups have been correctly counted.

See above.

Roald 12-06-2006 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 11471280)
Enough with the "glitch" stuff. Doesn't it seem like anytime there is a "glitch", it is one that fucks over affiliates? When was the last time there was a "glitch" that doubled your sales for the day.

Actually 3 months ago, rebills showed up double for 1 program. Not NATS though ;)))

StuartD 12-06-2006 10:23 AM

If those sales truly were a result of lack of fraud tracking, it's possible that those sales were removed because they were not legit sales in the first place.

beta-tester 12-06-2006 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 11471305)
How is it even possible to remove the sales from NATS?

I though sales could only be added.

well I guess, it's database side that got fucked up a little bit....it's simple query to add or remove sales...not a big deal.

Dirty F 12-06-2006 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddy (Post 11471295)
Guys, I think it's obvious that if you send only 24 hits and get 45 sales, then you know that there is a glitch in the stats display.

During the deinstallation of the anti-fraud system some sales were verified many times over, so a single sale showed up as several sales. The glitch is fixed and NATS are setting the data to be correct again. I will post when the process is 100% complete, which will be later today.

We are happy to provide you with raw processing logs so you can see that all your signups have been correctly counted.

And Dark Jedi - the Flashcash help desk is: help at flashcash dot com, it is not www.gfy.com


Why did you remote the anti-fraud system??

DarkJedi 12-06-2006 10:26 AM

oh, a "glitch"

okay... http://www.sexy-celebs.net/hotlink/rolleyes.gif

marko13 12-06-2006 10:27 AM

maybe the sales will go down again.... although i'm not wishing that to anyone...

Roald 12-06-2006 10:28 AM

allthough I do tend to believe FC right now as your ratio seemed a bit too good to be true this whole thing still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and not only due to FC

jact 12-06-2006 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck (Post 11471363)
Why did you remote the anti-fraud system??

Might have been a case of "Give me what I wanted, not what I asked for!".

Roald 12-06-2006 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marko13 (Post 11471395)
maybe the sales will go down again.... although i'm not wishing that to anyone...

what?....?

nico-t 12-06-2006 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 11471380)

like it always is...... and like someone mentioned already, it's very coincidental that it always works out unfortunate for the affiliate

aico 12-06-2006 10:36 AM

That's more of a Trim than a Shave.

Dveron 12-06-2006 10:36 AM

Don't think FS are up to anything shady. They are good people just caught up in some programming errors. Seems like DJ is too busy taking screenshots and running to the board like some noob bitch instead of contacting support first.

SlamDesigns 12-06-2006 10:37 AM

*Makes mental note* Fuck FlashCash.

Roald 12-06-2006 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dveron (Post 11471484)
Don't think FS are up to anything shady. They are good people just caught up in some programming errors. Seems like DJ is too bust taking screenshits and running to the board like some noob bitch instead of contacting support first.

GFY = almost instant reply
Support = waiting for hours/days/weeks/ever

:2 cents:

Theo 12-06-2006 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dveron (Post 11471484)
Don't think FS are up to anything shady. They are good people just caught up in some programming errors. Seems like DJ is too busy taking screenshots and running to the board like some noob bitch instead of contacting support first.

and iraq has weapons of mass destruction :winkwink:

Roald 12-06-2006 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel (Post 11471518)
and iraq has weapons of mass destruction :winkwink:

CORRECT!

VIVA LA BUSH!!!!!

pocketkangaroo 12-06-2006 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dveron (Post 11471484)
Don't think FS are up to anything shady. They are good people just caught up in some programming errors. Seems like DJ is too busy taking screenshots and running to the board like some noob bitch instead of contacting support first.

Is this one of those things where they bought a drink at a show so they are completely void of any possible shady tactics ever?

Seriously, whether you care for DJ or not (most don't), he posted factual evidence of his sales being removed from the system. If they were shaving, do you really think they would have replied "oh you caught us, we'll put those sales back".

I don't know anything about FlashCash, but I know that it looks fishy anytime there is a "glitch" that ends up in a loss of sales on your totals.

tony_monta-na 12-06-2006 10:52 AM

I will stop promoting Flashcash from now on (after 2,5 years) because any other program than "Free trials" doesn't work for me. Plus, what the fuck do you need a copy of my passport for?

Dveron 12-06-2006 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 11471557)
Is this one of those things where they bought a drink at a show so they are completely void of any possible shady tactics ever?

Seriously, whether you care for DJ or not (most don't), he posted factual evidence of his sales being removed from the system. If they were shaving, do you really think they would have replied "oh you caught us, we'll put those sales back".

I don't know anything about FlashCash, but I know that it looks fishy anytime there is a "glitch" that ends up in a loss of sales on your totals.

Never sent them a hit or seen them at a show but in the 8 years I've been doing this I've never seen anybody post that Flashcash shave or have fucked them over but then again I don't spend much time on the boards. This seems more like NATS fuckup to me and FC are caught in the middle.

tony_monta-na 12-06-2006 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 11471557)
Is this one of those things where they bought a drink at a show so they are completely void of any possible shady tactics ever?

Seriously, whether you care for DJ or not (most don't), he posted factual evidence of his sales being removed from the system. If they were shaving, do you really think they would have replied "oh you caught us, we'll put those sales back".

I don't know anything about FlashCash, but I know that it looks fishy anytime there is a "glitch" that ends up in a loss of sales on your totals.

Yeah, you're fucking right. Looks kinda fishy.

xclusive 12-06-2006 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe (Post 11471502)
GFY = almost instant reply
Support = waiting for hours/days/weeks/ever

:2 cents:

Amazing how that works:)

crockett 12-06-2006 11:33 AM

Maybe they decided they didn't like spam..

crockett 12-06-2006 11:41 AM

BTW DJ why don't you show some stats from a week back or something. Lets see if the ratio is still the same.

1:1 even with spam is a bit hard to believe and that's the only thing I've ever seen that can get close to those ratios. Especially with that many sales..

DarkJedi 12-06-2006 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 11471979)
BTW DJ why don't you show some stats from a week back or something. Lets see if the ratio is still the same.

1:1 even with spam is a bit hard to believe and that's the only thing I've ever seen that can get close to those ratios. Especially with that many sales..

actually, i used to be doing pretty good, before the NATS update.
but after the switch? things went to shit.

http://www.darksidedata.com/gfy/flashcash7.gif

tony_monta-na 12-06-2006 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 11472468)
actually, i used to be doing pretty good, before the NATS update.
but after the switch? things went to shit.

That's because there aren't free trials anymore...

crockett 12-06-2006 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 11472468)
actually, i used to be doing pretty good, before the NATS update.
but after the switch? things went to shit.

http://www.darksidedata.com/gfy/flashcash7.gif

ok then that shows your point but IMO it seems it's some sort of stats issues, because even in this pic you are showing 1:3 ratio. The newer ones with NATs are showing 1:1 overal.

But there are even days with 1:0 ratio, so of course that's not possiabe. So I'd have to think it's a stats reporting issue.. But who knows what's up.

Dildozer 12-06-2006 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 11471079)
this is what i posted earlier today:

shows 22 sales for today
http://www.darksidedata.com/gfy/flashcash4.gif



stats have just updated, sales disappeared:

http://www.darksidedata.com/gfy/flashcash6.gif


what the fuck...

Woah woah big player, don't spend it all in one place! :1orglaugh

DarkJedi 12-06-2006 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony_monta-na (Post 11472661)
That's because there aren't free trials anymore...

They had had free trials for 9 months after the switch to NATS.
Free trials were removed only 2 days ago.

Sales started to suck immediately with the NATS switch. It's weird, because with all the added NATS benefits (cascade billing, etc) sale should have gone up.

adultchica 12-06-2006 01:08 PM

Flashcash has always been good to me and they always back up whatever claims they have. I'm sure that it was a glitch and they will explain what happened. I really do think the crew at Flashcash is professional and honest.

Tuga 12-06-2006 01:08 PM

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-06-2006 01:14 PM

nice stats darkjedi :thumbsup


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