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kaori · 12-02-2006, 05:18 PM

Comus just came out with a new version - anybody have enough experience with it yet to form an opinion on whether they like it better than Smart Thumbs?

I'm looking mainly for a gallery rotator - so gallery provisions, auto-thumbs, and sponsor based rotations are important for me...

anybody have some first thoughts?

tenderobject · 12-02-2006, 05:22 PM

don't think ST has sponsor based rotations.. i think theyre using clicks fo the rotation. comus looks like good with the new version and they put the price cheap that is very good.

Gillespie · 12-03-2006, 08:32 AM

Why not go with TGP-Rotator?

INTELigent · 12-03-2006, 09:08 AM

+1 Smart Thumbs only!

Godsmack · 12-03-2006, 09:10 AM

Smartthumbs is still #1

stef_girls18 · 12-03-2006, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Godsmack

Smartthumbs is still #1

Smartthumbs is pretty cool

EdgeXXX · 12-03-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gillespie

Why not go with TGP-Rotator?

My thoughts exactly

Tuga · 12-03-2006, 09:51 AM

I like the old comus better than ST.

kaori · 12-03-2006, 11:55 AM

TGP-Rotator just doesn't seem to have as many features - but unfortunately there's no feature comparison matrix

I really want easy importation of sponsor galleries and great thumbs..

I might just have to try some demos.. Comus is very tempting with their lower price..
guess I gotta do some more research

fris · 12-03-2006, 12:00 PM

if you take a look at smart thumbs, then comus, smart thumbs interface is way more user friendly.

you will figure out smart thumbs in under 10 mins.

Vendzilla · 12-03-2006, 01:49 PM

you can figure out smart thumbs or tgp rotator faster, sure, they have less features, put what they can do side by side and comus will come out on top. as you grow your tgp, don't be limited on what your script can do!

Chris · 12-03-2006, 01:54 PM

i think i really need to reinstall comus and mess with it

Godsmack · 12-06-2006, 01:17 AM

Smartthumbs may have less features than Comus, but a feature rich script doesn't mean it is any good..
We could cram Smartthumbs full with features if we want to but it will only complicate things more.

What's great about ST is that it has an intuitive interface, it is fast, it is very light on the server, it has multi domain, it has a great thumb ranking system that will squeeze as many prod out of your thumbs, it has auto casting feature where ST checks the quality of the thumbs and separates the bad from the good.
ST can output RSS so you can feed your blogs.. well, i could go on and on.. but ST's features are focused on running TGP's, we don't care we have less features, features doesn't always make a winning script.

Ow, forgot to mention, the biggest sites on the net run Smartthumbs, we have a huge portfolio of sites running ST.
Some very famous webmasters are dedicated to ST..

JD · 12-06-2006, 01:22 AM

uh-oh i sense an e-penis fight!

StickyGreen · 12-06-2006, 01:24 AM

comus thumbs has a lot of features...

Godsmack · 12-06-2006, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

uh-oh i sense an e-penis fight!

hahahaha, naah..

Vendzilla · 12-06-2006, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Godsmack

Smartthumbs may have less features than Comus, but a feature rich script doesn't mean it is any good..
We could cram Smartthumbs full with features if we want to but it will only complicate things more.

The web landscape is about to make a radical technological change driven by a change in philosophy. Some of us have already made the change, others won’t catch up until the software allows them to. We at Comus believe that having the tools you need now is important and at the price you can afford. ComusThumbs has more because the web is a complicated place, even if that means making a simple tgp that can be loaded with thousands of galleries, already THUMBED to the size YOU want with ONE CLICK!
We know with all these features you'll need guidance, we invite anyone to check out our support, to use the search function, to read the manual or to look around the new "WIKI".

Vendzilla · 12-06-2006, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

uh-oh i sense an e-penis fight!

I'm a mod for GFY, that means I'm hung like a donkey!! LOL

babedigg · 12-06-2006, 09:00 AM

What are some good reasons why I should buy SmartThumbs over Comus?

IceMaster · 12-06-2006, 09:02 AM

I dont really choose a script for its features, its important to have some basic things, but i prefer a script that doesnt consume too much cpu and its stable.

Vendzilla · 12-06-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by IceMaster

I dont really choose a script for its features, its important to have some basic things, but i prefer a script that doesnt consume too much cpu and its stable.

I've been using comus for years, never had any problems that were script related, as with any script, get a good host!

boneless · 12-06-2006, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Godsmack

Ow, forgot to mention, the biggest sites on the net run Smartthumbs, we have a huge portfolio of sites running ST.

i allways tought thehun.net ran on a customised version of germesias brownie, i could be wrong tho that he changed over to smart thumbs.

plus ive seen the screenshots on the site of yours, theres one interesting one, 1mil of hits, 420k of that comes to unknown referer, now you can tell me anything but that site doesnt hold 420k of se traffic, thats some massive feeding there

and theres one more that seriously look like that have a massive feed going on. the 780k one with 200k of unknown ref traffic.

regards,

Ed

kaori · 12-06-2006, 09:09 PM

hahahaha... it's a tough choice.. especially with comus being $100 less right now!

but - another question is, which has more pre-prepared galleries for use?? (in otherwords, not having to connect to every sponsor to download their list of hosted galleries...)

edgeprod · 12-06-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

you can figure out smart thumbs or tgp rotator faster, sure, they have less features, put what they can do side by side and comus will come out on top. as you grow your tgp, don't be limited on what your script can do!

I fucking love my Comus Thumbs Server License .. whee!

boneless · 12-06-2006, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kaori

hahahaha... it's a tough choice.. especially with comus being $100 less right now!

but - another question is, which has more pre-prepared galleries for use?? (in otherwords, not having to connect to every sponsor to download their list of hosted galleries...)

in comus the ones we have are thumbed and ready to go ;)

Godsmack · 12-07-2006, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by boneless

i allways tought thehun.net ran on a customised version of germesias brownie, i could be wrong tho that he changed over to smart thumbs.

plus ive seen the screenshots on the site of yours, theres one interesting one, 1mil of hits, 420k of that comes to unknown referer, now you can tell me anything but that site doesnt hold 420k of se traffic, thats some massive feeding there

and theres one more that seriously look like that have a massive feed going on. the 780k one with 200k of unknown ref traffic.

regards,

Ed

Never said the Hun is running ST now did i?

Maybe you should stop scrutinize the few screens on smart-scripts.com and do some research what other huge sites are running our script.

Anyway.. i was not planning to start some bullshit war what script is best.. its useless.
We know most of our clients are really happy, and thats all that counts..

Godsmack · 12-07-2006, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kaori

hahahaha... it's a tough choice.. especially with comus being $100 less right now!

but - another question is, which has more pre-prepared galleries for use?? (in otherwords, not having to connect to every sponsor to download their list of hosted galleries...)

To be exact, Smartthumbs now holds 305090 galleries sorted by niche, category and content type.
About 1000 new galleries are added each day.
About 300 sponsors participate.

Tuga · 12-07-2006, 05:02 AM

So the big deal with ST is that it's really simple and easy to use, because it has less features.

I guess I was right then, Comus all the way.

Godsmack · 12-07-2006, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuga

So the big deal with ST is that it's really simple and easy to use, because it has less features.

I guess I was right then, Comus all the way.

Hey, whatever floats your boat dude :-)

Yes it has less features..

Godsmack · 12-07-2006, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneless

i allways tought thehun.net ran on a customised version of germesias brownie, i could be wrong tho that he changed over to smart thumbs.

plus ive seen the screenshots on the site of yours, theres one interesting one, 1mil of hits, 420k of that comes to unknown referer, now you can tell me anything but that site doesnt hold 420k of se traffic, thats some massive feeding there

and theres one more that seriously look like that have a massive feed going on. the 780k one with 200k of unknown ref traffic.

regards,

Ed

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...phunter.com%2F

Klen · 12-07-2006, 07:39 AM

Speaking about smartthumbs i have horrible problems with installing it on other server-first attemp was succesful,but then suddenly many errors start appers.So i try reinstall,and now even install procedure doesnt wanna start,i getting error
Fatal error: Unable to read 3991 bytes in /home/*/public_html/st/install.php on line 0
And i try on two different servers and still nothing.

Zuzana Designs · 12-07-2006, 07:40 AM

comus all the way baby !!!

Vendzilla · 12-07-2006, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Godsmack

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...phunter.com%2F

lets see, 839645 in with 895123 clicks, that would be a productivity of 106%

106% is pretty shitty

Godsmack · 12-07-2006, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

lets see, 839645 in with 895123 clicks, that would be a productivity of 106%

106% is pretty shitty

that is not them :-)

that screen is old.

But jeez, you base this on 2 screendumps? we have 2400 sites running st..

Anyway, i dont feel much like fighting..

As i said before, whatever floats your boat.. some like comus others st.. it's all fine.

Cheers m8

Godsmack · 12-07-2006, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Speaking about smartthumbs i have horrible problems with installing it on other server-first attemp was succesful,but then suddenly many errors start appers.So i try reinstall,and now even install procedure doesnt wanna start,i getting error
Fatal error: Unable to read 3991 bytes in /home/*/public_html/st/install.php on line 0
And i try on two different servers and still nothing.

We are happy to help you out at our support board..Probably an easy solution for your problem..

fris · 12-07-2006, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godsmack

Smartthumbs may have less features than Comus, but a feature rich script doesn't mean it is any good..
We could cram Smartthumbs full with features if we want to but it will only complicate things more.

What's great about ST is that it has an intuitive interface, it is fast, it is very light on the server, it has multi domain, it has a great thumb ranking system that will squeeze as many prod out of your thumbs, it has auto casting feature where ST checks the quality of the thumbs and separates the bad from the good.
ST can output RSS so you can feed your blogs.. well, i could go on and on.. but ST's features are focused on running TGP's, we don't care we have less features, features doesn't always make a winning script.

Ow, forgot to mention, the biggest sites on the net run Smartthumbs, we have a huge portfolio of sites running ST.
Some very famous webmasters are dedicated to ST..

their must be a reason why pandamovies switched from comus to smart thumbs :p

Godsmack · 12-07-2006, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Fris

their must be a reason why pandamovies switched from comus to smart thumbs :p

:-)

Thats only one of many..

Klen · 12-07-2006, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godsmack

We are happy to help you out at our support board..Probably an easy solution for your problem..

I just posted thread there.I hope you will solve problem without charging.

Oracle Porn · 12-07-2006, 08:25 AM

i will trade my comus copy for smart thumbs....nothing against comus but its way too complicated for me

boneless · 12-07-2006, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Godsmack

Never said the Hun is running ST now did i?

actualy you said the biggest sites on the net. according to me the hun is the biggest on the net. i could be wrong tho, next imho come worldsex and the likes.

i dont feel like fighting but i really tink you should choose your words more carefully next time, none of the biggest sites on the net (only going by sextracker) seem to run on st.

http://ranks.sextracker.com/ top5 here are all on other stuff then st, the number three stil runs on agsql ;) and thats only a small portion, im sure st produces big sites, same with comus, but to say the biggest sites on the net run it is a big no no imho.

Martin3 · 12-07-2006, 09:14 AM

It's really kind of hard to compare the 2. Smart thumbs is easy to use had has one of the cleanest admin layouts. Comus is can be customized to do just about anything you can think of but has a less user friendly admin layout, not a very newbie friendly script either.

They're the 2 top dogs in tgp scripts, can't really say one is better then the other, it really just depends on what you need a script to do for YOU. I own copies of both and like them both.

Vendzilla · 12-07-2006, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Godsmack

that is not them :-)

that screen is old.

But jeez, you base this on 2 screendumps? we have 2400 sites running st..

Anyway, i dont feel much like fighting..

As i said before, whatever floats your boat.. some like comus others st.. it's all fine.

Cheers m8

You started it by naming that site, took this from your site, so where's the update? By looking at all the screenshots on your site, yesterday was the first time I even looked, it seems the sites that are doing really good had huge feeds? We have a lot more than 2400 sites running on Comus and are willing to show you the Productivity of the top 5, I think 230% is the lowest up to over 800%

Klen · 12-07-2006, 09:57 AM

Well i have smarthumbs now so i cant buy comus unless i will doing other tgp site.

Vendzilla · 12-07-2006, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin3

It's really kind of hard to compare the 2. Smart thumbs is easy to use had has one of the cleanest admin layouts. Comus is can be customized to do just about anything you can think of but has a less user friendly admin layout, not a very newbie friendly script either.

They're the 2 top dogs in tgp scripts, can't really say one is better then the other, it really just depends on what you need a script to do for YOU. I own copies of both and like them both.

I like the interface, more improvements coming soon

pornpf69 · 12-07-2006, 12:05 PM

I would go with comus...as you can try it before you buy!!

Vendzilla · 12-07-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pornpf69

I would go with comus...as you can try it before you buy!!

2% skim free
1% skim $50
full version $100

Godsmack · 12-07-2006, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

You started it by naming that site, took this from your site, so where's the update? By looking at all the screenshots on your site, yesterday was the first time I even looked, it seems the sites that are doing really good had huge feeds? We have a lot more than 2400 sites running on Comus and are willing to show you the Productivity of the top 5, I think 230% is the lowest up to over 800%

those screens are very old.. we have many more clients now.. we should update our screens..

ideaworx · 12-07-2006, 12:44 PM

i will sing again in the songs of praise to Smart Thumbs, all the times i use comus is ok, but does not streamline the way that i work on my sites. Maybe for some...not for me, or my clients. My 2 cents. ;)

Godsmack · 12-07-2006, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by boneless

actualy you said the biggest sites on the net. according to me the hun is the biggest on the net. i could be wrong tho, next imho come worldsex and the likes.

i dont feel like fighting but i really tink you should choose your words more carefully next time, none of the biggest sites on the net (only going by sextracker) seem to run on st.

http://ranks.sextracker.com/ top5 here are all on other stuff then st, the number three stil runs on agsql ;) and thats only a small portion, im sure st produces big sites, same with comus, but to say the biggest sites on the net run it is a big no no imho.

Hehehe, well i didnt mean ST runs on all the biggest sites out there, i meant to say that ST runs on many huge sites.. some more than 1M uniques a day..

fris · 12-07-2006, 12:53 PM

my fav sites that run st

youngerbabes
pandamovies
carlaschoice
all of brokertraffic sites
all of bravomedia sites

12-02-2006, 05:22 PM	#2
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12-03-2006, 08:32 AM	#3
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12-03-2006, 09:10 AM	#5
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12-03-2006, 09:51 AM	#8
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12-03-2006, 11:55 AM	#9
kaori Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,569	TGP-Rotator just doesn't seem to have as many features - but unfortunately there's no feature comparison matrix I really want easy importation of sponsor galleries and great thumbs.. I might just have to try some demos.. Comus is very tempting with their lower price.. guess I gotta do some more research Last edited by kaori; 12-03-2006 at 11:57 AM..

12-02-2006, 05:18 PM	#1
kaori Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,569	Smart Thumbs or New Comus Comus just came out with a new version - anybody have enough experience with it yet to form an opinion on whether they like it better than Smart Thumbs? I'm looking mainly for a gallery rotator - so gallery provisions, auto-thumbs, and sponsor based rotations are important for me... anybody have some first thoughts?

12-03-2006, 09:08 AM	#4
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12-03-2006, 01:54 PM	#12
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12-06-2006, 01:17 AM	#13
Godsmack Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,525	Smartthumbs may have less features than Comus, but a feature rich script doesn't mean it is any good.. We could cram Smartthumbs full with features if we want to but it will only complicate things more. What's great about ST is that it has an intuitive interface, it is fast, it is very light on the server, it has multi domain, it has a great thumb ranking system that will squeeze as many prod out of your thumbs, it has auto casting feature where ST checks the quality of the thumbs and separates the bad from the good. ST can output RSS so you can feed your blogs.. well, i could go on and on.. but ST's features are focused on running TGP's, we don't care we have less features, features doesn't always make a winning script. Ow, forgot to mention, the biggest sites on the net run Smartthumbs, we have a huge portfolio of sites running ST. Some very famous webmasters are dedicated to ST.. __________________ Download the much improved Free Tube Script adult/mainstream tube solution for FREE! Last edited by Godsmack; 12-06-2006 at 01:19 AM..

12-06-2006, 01:22 AM	#14
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12-06-2006, 01:24 AM	#15
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12-06-2006, 09:02 AM	#20
IceMaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,920	I dont really choose a script for its features, its important to have some basic things, but i prefer a script that doesnt consume too much cpu and its stable.

12-06-2006, 09:09 PM	#23
kaori Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,569	hahahaha... it's a tough choice.. especially with comus being $100 less right now! but - another question is, which has more pre-prepared galleries for use?? (in otherwords, not having to connect to every sponsor to download their list of hosted galleries...)

12-07-2006, 05:02 AM	#28
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12-07-2006, 07:39 AM	#31
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Speaking about smartthumbs i have horrible problems with installing it on other server-first attemp was succesful,but then suddenly many errors start appers.So i try reinstall,and now even install procedure doesnt wanna start,i getting error Fatal error: Unable to read 3991 bytes in /home/*/public_html/st/install.php on line 0 And i try on two different servers and still nothing.

12-07-2006, 07:40 AM	#32
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12-07-2006, 08:25 AM	#39
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12-07-2006, 09:14 AM	#41
Martin3 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 1,529	It's really kind of hard to compare the 2. Smart thumbs is easy to use had has one of the cleanest admin layouts. Comus is can be customized to do just about anything you can think of but has a less user friendly admin layout, not a very newbie friendly script either. They're the 2 top dogs in tgp scripts, can't really say one is better then the other, it really just depends on what you need a script to do for YOU. I own copies of both and like them both. __________________ 264-543-302 Last edited by Martin3; 12-07-2006 at 09:17 AM..

12-07-2006, 09:57 AM	#43
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Well i have smarthumbs now so i cant buy comus unless i will doing other tgp site.

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12-07-2006, 12:44 PM	#48
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12-07-2006, 12:53 PM	#50
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	my fav sites that run st youngerbabes pandamovies carlaschoice all of brokertraffic sites all of bravomedia sites __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff