PayMonde (MVC) Paying Out... - GoFuckYourself.com

AdultMovies.bz · 12-01-2006, 10:55 PM

Just letting everyone know PayMonde has released some more funds to me (3 weeks worth), so hang in there, looks like they're trying to make things right

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-01-2006, 11:02 PM

congrats to you!

Calico Jack · 12-02-2006, 12:08 AM

I'm yet to see a cent...I'm still hopefull they'll do the honourable thing. An official update from them on what ois going on and who is getting paid and when it can be expected would be good.
This no information tactic they've taken just breeds more rumours.

rounders · 12-02-2006, 12:13 AM

Congrats! hopefully they are paying some more out

Pete-KT · 12-02-2006, 12:18 AM

I got fully paid out 3 weeks ago, hope everyone else does

bizarredollars · 12-02-2006, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultMovies.bz

Just letting everyone know PayMonde has released some more funds to me (3 weeks worth), so hang in there, looks like they're trying to make things right

That's great news.. I'm pleased to see they are doing the right thing

I hope everyone else gets paid what they are owed also.

Tryme · 12-02-2006, 12:59 AM

this is really good news

samo · 12-02-2006, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultMovies.bz

Just letting everyone know PayMonde has released some more funds to me (3 weeks worth), so hang in there, looks like they're trying to make things right

Do you work for paymonde? they owe me shit load of money and i did not see anything from them. No emails, no calls, no money, nothing1 Anyone else got paid or is owed money? lets us know if you got paid or not, post here, dont let some asshole fool you.

Barefootsies · 12-02-2006, 10:29 AM

Nothing here either.

That goes for money, or repeated requests for access to my admin section since I will be removing the script.

mistermee · 12-02-2006, 12:53 PM

Needless to add, not a single red cent from NO-Paymonde nor any access to the admin section nor any email nor any post nor anything.

We've been successful in convincing about 20 percent (to date) of our ex-Paymonde rebilliing clients to rejoin the site. We eliminated all former Paymonde members yesterday afternoon at 3 p.m. (e.s.t.). We expect we should reach about 25-30 percent before all is said and done. Could be worse, but it nevah shoulda happened in the foist place!!!!!

adultchica · 12-02-2006, 01:12 PM

I'm really surprised to hear that, I thought it would be a lost cause

Barefootsies · 12-02-2006, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermee

Needless to add, not a single red cent from NO-Paymonde nor any access to the admin section nor any email nor any post nor anything.

We've been successful in convincing about 20 percent (to date) of our ex-Paymonde rebilliing clients to rejoin the site. We eliminated all former Paymonde members yesterday afternoon at 3 p.m. (e.s.t.). We expect we should reach about 25-30 percent before all is said and done. Could be worse, but it nevah shoulda happened in the foist place!!!!!

Yep, the last of our members should be expiring today, or tomorrow. So we will remove the script, and cross our toes that they all roll over.

mistermee · 12-02-2006, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Yep, the last of our members should be expiring today, or tomorrow. So we will remove the script, and cross our toes that they all roll over.

With all respect (and God knows, you're due), Barefoot, I think it highly unlikely you'll manage 100 percent. I think the success of any roll-over depends on several factors, including the nature of the site and the loyalty of members. We expected that around 20 percent would follow-us to the new billing company (particularly since we offered them 30 percent off their memberships!!!!) since they represent the hardest of the hard-core constituency for our site. I'm guessing that we'll score another five-to-ten percent over the next week, but the others are lost forever. Thank you Paymonde!

For those interested in our marketing in this difficult situation, I shall say only that we followed the esteemed Barefoots advice and direction, e-mailed all of our Paymonde members, explained what happened and gave them an incentive to re-join (as above). We followed up that email with another, shorter one on Thursday, reminding them that their access was ending on the 1st of December and urging them to rejoin at the new improved rate.

I don't know what else we could have done to improve the response rate save calling them on the phone (LOL)...but we're certainly open to any other suggestions.

Oh did I remember to say that it's yet ANOTHER DAY without a single cent from Paymonde? Oh yeah, another day, another no dollar.

BFT3K · 12-02-2006, 03:00 PM

I am not a "big player" by any stretch, and I am not "friends" with the Paymonde guys.

I am a very small fish who just started a site called BoobieMovies.com a few months back.

When the Paymonde sites went down I was owed in the area of $1,300 - $1,400, so hardly a big account in comparison with a few of the posts I've been reading.

Anyway, Howard wrote me yesterday. He said they had just mailed me a partial payment, said they were trying to get all of the funds so they can send everyone their money as soon as they could, and I was given permission to login to my account again.

If a check was mailed out I should receive it this coming week, as I am located in the northeast area of the US.

If the check arrives I will post again, but maybe this is good news for all concerned. Time will tell...

GTS Mark · 12-02-2006, 03:04 PM

I hope they pay us, we are long time customers and made them alot of money over the couple of years we used them.

DH

NickDavis · 12-02-2006, 03:31 PM

Hmm, I haven't heard anything in 10 days... but from the looks of it theyre cleaning up the mess... with any luck it will continue

Calico Jack · 12-02-2006, 04:33 PM

Some kind of contact from them would be beneficial both for them and for us. It would place them in a better light and at the same time elighten us as to just what is going on and what we can or cannot expect from them.

NickDavis · 12-02-2006, 08:40 PM

bump bump

Barefootsies · 12-02-2006, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermee

With all respect (and God knows, you're due), Barefoot, I think it highly unlikely you'll manage 100 percent. I think the success of any roll-over depends on several factors, including the nature of the site and the loyalty of members. We expected that around 20 percent would follow-us to the new billing company (particularly since we offered them 30 percent off their memberships!!!!) since they represent the hardest of the hard-core constituency for our site. I'm guessing that we'll score another five-to-ten percent over the next week, but the others are lost forever. Thank you Paymonde!

For those interested in our marketing in this difficult situation, I shall say only that we followed the esteemed Barefoots advice and direction, e-mailed all of our Paymonde members, explained what happened and gave them an incentive to re-join (as above). We followed up that email with another, shorter one on Thursday, reminding them that their access was ending on the 1st of December and urging them to rejoin at the new improved rate.

I don't know what else we could have done to improve the response rate save calling them on the phone (LOL)...but we're certainly open to any other suggestions.

Oh did I remember to say that it's yet ANOTHER DAY without a single cent from Paymonde? Oh yeah, another day, another no dollar.

Thanks for the praises friend. Much appreciated.

Despite my distaint for Howie, and crew with their lack of communication.. and bullshit e-mail threats of not paying me for 6 months.. nor giving me administration access when requested repeatedly...

I was not going to fuck over my members. A lot of them are repeat business who've been with us for years. It's not their fault Howard Cohen wanted to practice his Nixon speeches while not paying me my money earned. Then continueing to taunt me with threats to not pay me.

My members paid their money in good faith, and will roll over at some point. Maybe not immediately. But in time some new model will strike their fancy. But in the meantime it sucks because we lost that revenue.

So far a good 30-40% have rolled over. I would expect that same ratios we've had in the past when changing companies... a good 70-80% make the transition in the first 90 days. Others disappear, or will sign up MUCH later.

For us, we were not going to refund them, nor do massive charge backs. We simply did as mistermee said. We cancelled their rebills once iMonde stopped paying us. We then e-mailed all members letting them know we were not getting paid. We also let members know we cancelled all rebills, and to make sure provided the link for them to cancel themselves. We then explained we would let their memberships run out on iMonde until beginning of December, and then the script would be removed from the server side, and they would need to sign up with CCBill, or Verotel (providing links) again.

We sent out a follow up to let them know 12/1 was approaching, and we still had not been paid, and that they would need to sign up on a new processor. Also to let them know that any charges coming from iMonde in December would NOT BE AUTHORIZED by us, or the website, and they would need to contact their bank(s).

So while my anger at Howard Cohen is enough to make me want to icepick his balls, assuming he has any. I actually was more professional in dealing with my members, and this situation, then all of the bullshit iMonde spin doctor shit about "massive chargebacks, no money for anyone, horseshit". I had e-mailed, and called plenty of times before getting my mocking, and taunting Cohen e-mail bantering.

During that time, and to date, I have received no admin access (being locked out), lack of communication, and no payments. Despite his promises to pay everyone, and all the b.s. he's claimed over this time. Not to mention his threats to pay me last for 'having no patients', I am sure there will be plenty of others who are not paid when the dust clears.

Paul Markham · 12-02-2006, 10:37 PM

We have had some payments from Paymonde. Hoping to get some more.

Spoke to Howard and he told me they are trying to pay everyone they can. He said problem is with their bank in the Philippines.

bellybuttonlint · 12-03-2006, 07:09 AM

What I find very amusing is " Ive spoken to howard"
Oh yea? you spoke with him? He only accepts calls from you? Or do you have a direct line to him? You reach him at the batcave?

Barefootsies · 12-03-2006, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellybuttonlint

What I find very amusing is " Ive spoken to howard"
Oh yea? you spoke with him? He only accepts calls from you? Or do you have a direct line to him? You reach him at the batcave?

dready · 12-04-2006, 09:36 AM

Paymonde just sent everything they owe me up till now. There is one small payment left for this month and whatever reserve is remaining.

Looks like they're trying to come through for people.

Joesho · 12-04-2006, 09:59 AM

They have paid us payments as well.

I wish them the best of luck.

HighSociety · 12-04-2006, 10:01 AM

not a single word from paymonde, they even confirmed 6 refunds and none of them really happened. This was weeks ago.

cem · 12-04-2006, 10:02 AM

Consider yourself very lucky then. I still havent received a DIME just like many others.

PimpDaddyPants · 12-04-2006, 10:15 AM

Damn those Myvirtualcard people.

I bet all of your money was spent on Cinnamon flavored custom packs of gum LOL.

Barefootsies · 12-04-2006, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants

Damn those Myvirtualcard people.

I bet all of your money was spent on Cinnamon flavored custom packs of gum LOL.

payout · 12-05-2006, 10:26 PM

They are paying to the merchants , its really good news but we are yet to get our wires but really confident that they will send those wires soon.

Paymonde MID : 2536

Arab_Sex · 12-05-2006, 11:29 PM

Glad the guys at IncredibleDollars hooked me up with site.Im no big fish,just an affiliate.Havent recieved a check yet.Over due about 3 months

Calico Jack · 12-06-2006, 02:24 AM

Haven't recieved anything now for about 6 weeks. Got my last check 3 weeks before the shit hit the fan and they went down.
Not a cent yet since.

livesexoncams · 12-06-2006, 08:52 AM

Who else received any payment lately?

Sarah - GTS · 12-06-2006, 09:00 AM

No payment, but Howard did email me wondering if I needed a merchant account LOL
If anyone has contact information for them I would really appreciate it!
[email protected]

mistermee · 12-06-2006, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calico Jack

Haven't recieved anything now for about 6 weeks. Got my last check 3 weeks before the shit hit the fan and they went down.
Not a cent yet since.

And same for us. Six weeks without payment, without a SINGLE word from Paymonde, without access to our accounts, without explanation or apology.

Six weeks and counting...

UP IN Smoke · 12-06-2006, 12:54 PM

MID 5321
I got my money to my funds2go account 3 weeks worth. Still owe me my reserves, but they are not due yet.

Webby · 12-06-2006, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah - GTS

No payment, but Howard did email me wondering if I needed a merchant account LOL

Manowar · 12-06-2006, 01:49 PM

awesome to hear

Miguel · 12-06-2006, 02:15 PM

Guys, please advise how Paymonde merchants can contact with Howard or anybody from Paymonde regarding our money. My ICQ 37279-67-01 and emial: webmaster -a-t- serious-cash.com

Appraciate any help or advice!

samo · 12-06-2006, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joesho

They have paid us payments as well.

I wish them the best of luck.

I wish Howard fall's and break his legs, and Norton catches AIDS
I wish them un-marry Christmas and a fucked up new year

And while you wish them the best of luck.
I wish they both end up in jail and get fucked daily by a big cock!

I wish I wish, my wishes come true, for what they did to me should be done into them too!

mistermee · 12-07-2006, 08:56 AM

Bump for yet another day without being paid by NO-Paymonde.

Dasson · 12-14-2006, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livesexoncams

Who else received any payment lately?

About a week ago I got a percentage of what was in the account. Since then, I've tried contacting that dude "Howard", but I have yet to get a response. Even if they are trying to make things right and are going to eventually send out the funds, it is so so unprofessional and "fucked up" that those mofos cant take the time to answer an email or keep their past customers up to date with what is going on. What type of buisness are you doing when you can send some people their money(all of it), but you dick around with others.

livesexoncams · 12-14-2006, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasson

About a week ago I got a percentage of what was in the account. Since then, I've tried contacting that dude "Howard", but I have yet to get a response. Even if they are trying to make things right and are going to eventually send out the funds, it is so so unprofessional and "fucked up" that those mofos cant take the time to answer an email or keep their past customers up to date with what is going on. What type of buisness are you doing when you can send some people their money(all of it), but you dick around with others.

You must be lucky to have recovered at least a part of the money. Most of the webmasters didn't get anything until now.

Arab_Sex · 12-14-2006, 06:46 AM

nothing since september

mistermee · 12-14-2006, 11:41 AM

Nothing yesterday, nothing today and assuming nothing tomorrow.

In case, anyone is counting. It would appear that Paymond is NOT NOT NOT paying out.

So much for this thread...

samo · 12-14-2006, 03:36 PM

A Big Nothing For Me!

livesexoncams · 12-15-2006, 09:14 AM

I think the chances to get anything back are close to zero now...

inabon · 12-15-2006, 10:06 AM

i got money too waiting on the rest. this is good news.

Calico Jack · 12-15-2006, 01:15 PM

Still waiting, still waiting, still waiting... (uncosses fingers and takes a deep breath).
Really, I've given up hope. A payout or part payout by Christmas would have been nice, but I can't see that happening.

RegUser · 12-15-2006, 03:17 PM

a lawsuit is the only way out
probably time has already run out

samo · 12-16-2006, 03:03 PM

still no money or any word about paymonde

12-01-2006, 10:55 PM	#1
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12-02-2006, 12:13 AM	#4
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12-02-2006, 10:29 AM	#9
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12-02-2006, 12:53 PM	#10
mistermee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 104	Needless to add, not a single red cent from NO-Paymonde nor any access to the admin section nor any email nor any post nor anything. We've been successful in convincing about 20 percent (to date) of our ex-Paymonde rebilliing clients to rejoin the site. We eliminated all former Paymonde members yesterday afternoon at 3 p.m. (e.s.t.). We expect we should reach about 25-30 percent before all is said and done. Could be worse, but it nevah shoulda happened in the foist place!!!!! Last edited by mistermee; 12-02-2006 at 12:54 PM.. Reason: left out a letter

12-02-2006, 01:12 PM	#11
adultchica Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: usa Posts: 5,141	I'm really surprised to hear that, I thought it would be a lost cause __________________

12-01-2006, 11:02 PM	#2
Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE North Coast Pimp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 304-534-757 Posts: 9,395	congrats to you!

12-02-2006, 12:08 AM	#3
Calico Jack Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,051	I'm yet to see a cent...I'm still hopefull they'll do the honourable thing. An official update from them on what ois going on and who is getting paid and when it can be expected would be good. This no information tactic they've taken just breeds more rumours.

12-02-2006, 12:18 AM	#5
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	I got fully paid out 3 weeks ago, hope everyone else does

12-02-2006, 12:59 AM	#7
Tryme Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 596	this is really good news

12-02-2006, 03:00 PM	#14
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Maybe Good News... I am not a "big player" by any stretch, and I am not "friends" with the Paymonde guys. I am a very small fish who just started a site called BoobieMovies.com a few months back. When the Paymonde sites went down I was owed in the area of $1,300 - $1,400, so hardly a big account in comparison with a few of the posts I've been reading. Anyway, Howard wrote me yesterday. He said they had just mailed me a partial payment, said they were trying to get all of the funds so they can send everyone their money as soon as they could, and I was given permission to login to my account again. If a check was mailed out I should receive it this coming week, as I am located in the northeast area of the US. If the check arrives I will post again, but maybe this is good news for all concerned. Time will tell...

12-02-2006, 03:04 PM	#15
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	I hope they pay us, we are long time customers and made them alot of money over the couple of years we used them. DH

12-02-2006, 03:31 PM	#16
NickDavis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 269	Hmm, I haven't heard anything in 10 days... but from the looks of it theyre cleaning up the mess... with any luck it will continue

12-02-2006, 04:33 PM	#17
Calico Jack Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,051	Some kind of contact from them would be beneficial both for them and for us. It would place them in a better light and at the same time elighten us as to just what is going on and what we can or cannot expect from them.

12-02-2006, 08:40 PM	#18
NickDavis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 269	bump bump

12-02-2006, 10:37 PM	#20
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	We have had some payments from Paymonde. Hoping to get some more. Spoke to Howard and he told me they are trying to pay everyone they can. He said problem is with their bank in the Philippines. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

12-03-2006, 07:09 AM	#21
bellybuttonlint Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 183	What I find very amusing is " Ive spoken to howard" Oh yea? you spoke with him? He only accepts calls from you? Or do you have a direct line to him? You reach him at the batcave?

12-04-2006, 09:36 AM	#23
dready Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5,247	Paymonde just sent everything they owe me up till now. There is one small payment left for this month and whatever reserve is remaining. Looks like they're trying to come through for people. __________________ ICQ: 91139591

12-04-2006, 09:59 AM	#24
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12-04-2006, 10:01 AM	#25
HighSociety Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,786	not a single word from paymonde, they even confirmed 6 refunds and none of them really happened. This was weeks ago. __________________ http://www.highsociety.com http://www.playgirl.com http://www.cheri.com Jonathan "JC" Maldini ICQ: 223 643

12-04-2006, 10:02 AM	#26
cem Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 415	Consider yourself very lucky then. I still havent received a DIME just like many others.

12-04-2006, 10:15 AM	#27
PimpDaddyPants Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,581	Damn those Myvirtualcard people. I bet all of your money was spent on Cinnamon flavored custom packs of gum LOL.

12-05-2006, 10:26 PM	#29
payout Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3	They are paying to the merchants , its really good news but we are yet to get our wires but really confident that they will send those wires soon. Paymonde MID : 2536

12-05-2006, 11:29 PM	#30
Arab_Sex Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 221	Glad the guys at IncredibleDollars hooked me up with site.Im no big fish,just an affiliate.Havent recieved a check yet.Over due about 3 months

12-06-2006, 02:24 AM	#31
Calico Jack Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,051	Haven't recieved anything now for about 6 weeks. Got my last check 3 weeks before the shit hit the fan and they went down. Not a cent yet since.

12-06-2006, 08:52 AM	#32
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12-06-2006, 09:00 AM	#33
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12-06-2006, 12:54 PM	#35
UP IN Smoke Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 58	MID 5321 I got my money to my funds2go account 3 weeks worth. Still owe me my reserves, but they are not due yet.

12-06-2006, 01:49 PM	#37
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	awesome to hear

12-06-2006, 02:15 PM	#38
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12-07-2006, 08:56 AM	#40
mistermee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 104	Bump for yet another day without being paid by NO-Paymonde.

12-14-2006, 06:46 AM	#43
Arab_Sex Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 221	nothing since september

12-14-2006, 11:41 AM	#44
mistermee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 104	Nothing yesterday, nothing today and assuming nothing tomorrow. In case, anyone is counting. It would appear that Paymond is NOT NOT NOT paying out. So much for this thread...

12-14-2006, 03:36 PM	#45
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12-15-2006, 09:14 AM	#46
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12-15-2006, 10:06 AM	#47
inabon Good Old Fat Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Boquete, Panamá Posts: 970	i got money too waiting on the rest. this is good news.