2257 and hentai/toon sites...do we even needo one? - GoFuckYourself.com

pood · 11-30-2006, 02:37 PM

The main reason we have 2257 is to show that the models are 18 and over.

Since this isn't real models do we really need one?

BoyAlley · 11-30-2006, 02:38 PM

It never ceases to amaze me when these questions come up.

pood · 11-30-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

It never ceases to amaze me when these questions come up.

I haven't been submitting my own stuff for over 2 years so I haven't kept up on the updated 2257s.

pood · 11-30-2006, 02:42 PM

guess I found my answer on google. im getting mix answers on this xbiz post i found

BoyAlley · 11-30-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pood

guess I found my answer on google. guess we do need one

Urgh. Ok. Here. Let's use some logic:

You can't get government issued photo IDs for cartoons.

Cartoons aren't real people.

Cartoons were never born.

There are no 2257 issues with drawn cartoons. There could, however, be obscenity issues, which has nothing at all to do with 2257.

BTW FYI FAQ FAG: I am not lawyer, but I play one on GFY.

pood · 11-30-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Urgh. Ok. Here. Let's use some logic:

You can't get government issued photo IDs for cartoons.

Cartoons aren't real people.

Cartoons were never born.

There are no 2257 issues with drawn cartoons. There could, however, be obscenity issues, which has nothing at all to do with 2257.

BTW FYI FAQ FAG: I am not lawyer, but I play one on GFY.

over at xbiz, someone was saying otherwise.

http://boards.xbiz.com/showthread.php3?postid=290071

Michaelious · 11-30-2006, 02:51 PM

You can't beat a bit of japanese fetishes lol

BoyAlley · 11-30-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pood

over at xbiz, someone was saying otherwise.

http://boards.xbiz.com/showthread.php3?postid=290071

Yes and some people claim that they've been abducted by aliens and had anal probes from them. All sorts of people say all sorts of things, doesn't make them true.

2257 is about providing a notice on your site letting the feds know where you keep your records, and having model IDs and relevant info on them on file for inspection.

Since these are not people, they have no IDs, legal names, date of birth, or other relevant info for the feds TO inspect.

Obscenity laws apply, 2257 laws do not.

BTW FYI FAQ FAG: I am not an attorney, but I play one on GFY.

pood · 11-30-2006, 02:57 PM

thanks a lot for straightening this up BoyAlley, I'll leave off my 2257 info.

BoyAlley · 11-30-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pood

thanks a lot for straightening this up BoyAlley, I'll leave off my 2257 info.

If you have photo realistic toons and want to set a good example (although it's not required by law), you can put some sort of statement that says hey, all of these images are 100% computer generated and are in no way derived from imagery of actual human beings.

And as I said before, having drawings of what appear to be minors (among other types of imagery) can't get you in trouble under 2257 laws, but can put you in hot water under obscenity laws.

Not saying that you'd have anything to do with such imagery, just a general FYI.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 11-30-2006, 03:52 PM

my current project is a hentai blog, so i've been doing some looking around at content, and found some pretty twisted shit. there really are no boundaries when it comes to animation. i find that alot and i mean ALOT of the galleries i was looking through featured animations of girls which appeared quite young. maybe its just the style of animation. i think its more a question of what you're morally (haha, morals in porn) willing to sell on your site. i personally won't be promoting anything which even comes close to giving the appearance of underage girls. even if it is animated...

alien tentacle rape however, mmm, lol...

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pood Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,609	2257 and hentai/toon sites...do we even needo one? The main reason we have 2257 is to show that the models are 18 and over. Since this isn't real models do we really need one?

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pood Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,609	guess I found my answer on google. im getting mix answers on this xbiz post i found Last edited by pood; 11-30-2006 at 02:44 PM..

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Michaelious Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 6,720	You can't beat a bit of japanese fetishes lol __________________

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pood Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,609	thanks a lot for straightening this up BoyAlley, I'll leave off my 2257 info.

11-30-2006, 03:52 PM	#11
Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	my current project is a hentai blog, so i've been doing some looking around at content, and found some pretty twisted shit. there really are no boundaries when it comes to animation. i find that alot and i mean ALOT of the galleries i was looking through featured animations of girls which appeared quite young. maybe its just the style of animation. i think its more a question of what you're morally (haha, morals in porn) willing to sell on your site. i personally won't be promoting anything which even comes close to giving the appearance of underage girls. even if it is animated... alien tentacle rape however, mmm, lol...