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pood 11-30-2006 02:37 PM

2257 and hentai/toon sites...do we even needo one?
 
The main reason we have 2257 is to show that the models are 18 and over.

Since this isn't real models do we really need one?

BoyAlley 11-30-2006 02:38 PM

It never ceases to amaze me when these questions come up.

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pood 11-30-2006 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11423003)
It never ceases to amaze me when these questions come up.

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:( I haven't been submitting my own stuff for over 2 years so I haven't kept up on the updated 2257s.

pood 11-30-2006 02:42 PM

guess I found my answer on google. im getting mix answers on this xbiz post i found

BoyAlley 11-30-2006 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pood (Post 11423040)
guess I found my answer on google. guess we do need one


Urgh. Ok. Here. Let's use some logic:

You can't get government issued photo IDs for cartoons.

Cartoons aren't real people.

Cartoons were never born.

There are no 2257 issues with drawn cartoons. There could, however, be obscenity issues, which has nothing at all to do with 2257.

BTW FYI FAQ FAG: I am not lawyer, but I play one on GFY.

pood 11-30-2006 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11423065)

Urgh. Ok. Here. Let's use some logic:

You can't get government issued photo IDs for cartoons.

Cartoons aren't real people.

Cartoons were never born.

There are no 2257 issues with drawn cartoons. There could, however, be obscenity issues, which has nothing at all to do with 2257.

BTW FYI FAQ FAG: I am not lawyer, but I play one on GFY.


over at xbiz, someone was saying otherwise.

http://boards.xbiz.com/showthread.php3?postid=290071

Michaelious 11-30-2006 02:51 PM

You can't beat a bit of japanese fetishes lol

BoyAlley 11-30-2006 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pood (Post 11423095)
over at xbiz, someone was saying otherwise.

http://boards.xbiz.com/showthread.php3?postid=290071

Yes and some people claim that they've been abducted by aliens and had anal probes from them. All sorts of people say all sorts of things, doesn't make them true.

2257 is about providing a notice on your site letting the feds know where you keep your records, and having model IDs and relevant info on them on file for inspection.

Since these are not people, they have no IDs, legal names, date of birth, or other relevant info for the feds TO inspect.

Obscenity laws apply, 2257 laws do not.

BTW FYI FAQ FAG: I am not an attorney, but I play one on GFY.

pood 11-30-2006 02:57 PM

thanks a lot for straightening this up BoyAlley, I'll leave off my 2257 info.

BoyAlley 11-30-2006 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pood (Post 11423146)
thanks a lot for straightening this up BoyAlley, I'll leave off my 2257 info.


If you have photo realistic toons and want to set a good example (although it's not required by law), you can put some sort of statement that says hey, all of these images are 100% computer generated and are in no way derived from imagery of actual human beings.

And as I said before, having drawings of what appear to be minors (among other types of imagery) can't get you in trouble under 2257 laws, but can put you in hot water under obscenity laws.

Not saying that you'd have anything to do with such imagery, just a general FYI.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-30-2006 03:52 PM

my current project is a hentai blog, so i've been doing some looking around at content, and found some pretty twisted shit. there really are no boundaries when it comes to animation. i find that alot and i mean ALOT of the galleries i was looking through featured animations of girls which appeared quite young. maybe its just the style of animation. i think its more a question of what you're morally (haha, morals in porn) willing to sell on your site. i personally won't be promoting anything which even comes close to giving the appearance of underage girls. even if it is animated...

alien tentacle rape however, mmm, lol...


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