Outsourcing -- Opinions, anyone? - GoFuckYourself.com

PHP-CODER-FOR-HIRE · 11-29-2006, 11:00 PM

I'm sure there have been countless posts just like this one, which could easily be found by searching the forums, but nevertheless, here it goes:

Has anyone had any experience with outsourcing overseas? I mean, I see ads all the time for full-time employees starting at under $400/month.

Like, what the... I charge that for a minimum sized project!

What are your opinions? Is it good? Is it shitty? Please vote above, and let me know what you have found with overseas outsourcing.

BlueWire · 11-29-2006, 11:18 PM

It is a valuable tool...however, 60% of people who outsource offshore are unhappy with the result. The reason for this in my opinion is because:

1) They think of it as a quick fix
2) No offshore infrastructure

I realize its tempting to hire a freelancer for $500-$1,000/mo. Or to go with the outsourcing company with the lowest prices.

However, to really have a successful outsourcing experience there is a lot needing to be in place. Strong internet structure, HR Department, Recruitment Department, On-Site administration...etc

A freelancer or low-end offshore outsourcing company cannot provide this at a high enough level. The prices are still extremely manageable with the higher quality firms and the success rates are significantly higher. Its seriously night and day.

My

tony286 · 11-29-2006, 11:21 PM

its going to ruin this country and then everyone will wonder why

PHP-CODER-FOR-HIRE · 11-29-2006, 11:21 PM

I agree that going with an outsourcing company isn't the best, especially when overseas. No offense intended, but there are definitely communication barriers when outsourcing to non-FLUENT-English-speaking locations.

PHP-CODER-FOR-HIRE · 11-29-2006, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

its going to ruin this country and then everyone will wonder why

Much like Chinese throw-away products...

It's a pretty sad day in North America when not only the products are being imported, but also skilled service

PHP-CODER-FOR-HIRE · 11-29-2006, 11:52 PM

Bump for more opinions!

kmanrox · 11-30-2006, 12:29 AM

my programmer is from the ukraine, $600/month, he's never late for projects, is always online and responsive, comes up with his own ideas to make projects better, etc.... the best programmer i've ever worked with by far...

fibble · 11-30-2006, 01:55 AM

Not all outsourcing companies cant give you good results, some can give you satisfying result and can speak fluent english

Greg MissionD · 11-30-2006, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueWire

It is a valuable tool...however, 60% of people who outsource offshore are unhappy with the result. The reason for this in my opinion is because:

1) They think of it as a quick fix
2) No offshore infrastructure

I realize its tempting to hire a freelancer for $500-$1,000/mo. Or to go with the outsourcing company with the lowest prices.

However, to really have a successful outsourcing experience there is a lot needing to be in place. Strong internet structure, HR Department, Recruitment Department, On-Site administration...etc

A freelancer or low-end offshore outsourcing company cannot provide this at a high enough level. The prices are still extremely manageable with the higher quality firms and the success rates are significantly higher. Its seriously night and day.

My

Very well put

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PHP-CODER-FOR-HIRE Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,090	I agree that going with an outsourcing company isn't the best, especially when overseas. No offense intended, but there are definitely communication barriers when outsourcing to non-FLUENT-English-speaking locations. __________________ Hire a PHP Coder

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kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	my programmer is from the ukraine, $600/month, he's never late for projects, is always online and responsive, comes up with his own ideas to make projects better, etc.... the best programmer i've ever worked with by far... __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

11-29-2006, 11:18 PM	#2
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	It is a valuable tool...however, 60% of people who outsource offshore are unhappy with the result. The reason for this in my opinion is because: 1) They think of it as a quick fix 2) No offshore infrastructure I realize its tempting to hire a freelancer for $500-$1,000/mo. Or to go with the outsourcing company with the lowest prices. However, to really have a successful outsourcing experience there is a lot needing to be in place. Strong internet structure, HR Department, Recruitment Department, On-Site administration...etc A freelancer or low-end offshore outsourcing company cannot provide this at a high enough level. The prices are still extremely manageable with the higher quality firms and the success rates are significantly higher. Its seriously night and day. My

11-29-2006, 11:21 PM	#3
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	its going to ruin this country and then everyone will wonder why

11-30-2006, 01:55 AM	#8
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