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Old 11-27-2006, 04:33 PM   #1
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SEo Q

Hi all can you get your site banned in google for using seo tools like seo elite?

Or will it just be a ban on your ip? for doing to many qeuries.
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Old 11-27-2006, 04:45 PM   #2
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One rule. Try to cheat the searchengine, you WILL loose.
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Old 11-27-2006, 05:08 PM   #3
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Too frequent requests = IP ban.
Doing black hat SEO, expect a banning of your domain within a few days to weeks.
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Old 11-27-2006, 06:18 PM   #4
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Hi mate it is not balck hat as far as i know. But it does search the serps automaticly. Will this have any affect on my domains? Maybe google could track down the ip though a service i signed up for that is linked to my domain like adsence or am i being to paranoid
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Old 11-27-2006, 06:28 PM   #5
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SEO Elite will not get you banned...That said, yes, using it or any other tool will probably get you banned. Why?


If you're like most webmasters, you'll take a "Manuals? I don't need no stinkin' manuals!" approach to learning how to actually use the software. You'll fart around with it with grand visions of thousands of visitors flooding your site and dive right in..."learning" all you need to know in a hour or less before implementation.

Over the next few weeks you'll "try this" and "try that" feature of the program, picking the ones you like best (and the ones you like best will be the ones that seem familiar or easy to understand...since you have no real idea what they actually do).

You'll make those primary features you liked the main reason you use the program with the mindset that you've got the inside track to becomming king of SEOland with this nifty secret tool.

So, following the "if the only tool you have available is a hammer, you'll approach everything as a nail" theory...Use this or any other tool as your "smoking gun" with SE traffic and you'll find yourself on the short end of the stick long term.

Personally, I don't agree with the "There is no money to be made in SEO" line of thinking. I think there's money to be made everywhere. I don't know and don't care what their definition (as in dollar amount) equals "no money" because that simply is not true.

Any singular approach can have the "There is no money to be made in..." added to the front of it. SEO (in and of itself) doesn't really exist, it is the end result of a unified approach to the promotion of your site. Cover your bases on a basic level in your niche (you and everyone else knows what are not good practice), you will become "relevant", traffic comes. It isn't overnight and no "quick fix" will produce long term results unless you have a sizeable budget with plenty of disposable 'testing' income.

From there you focus your efforts on staying relevant, not the never-never land of "SEO".

Full disclosure: I own the program, have & continue to use it. I've owned it for about 6 months now with no negative results from using the tool as it is intended, as have thousands of others. Not saying it's great, saying it's another tool.

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Old 11-27-2006, 07:07 PM   #6
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:11 PM   #7
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Personally, I don't agree with the "There is no money to be made in SEO" line of thinking. I think there's money to be made everywhere. I don't know and don't care what their definition (as in dollar amount) equals "no money" because that simply is not true.

Any singular approach can have the "There is no money to be made in..." added to the front of it. SEO (in and of itself) doesn't really exist, it is the end result of a unified approach to the promotion of your site. Cover your bases on a basic level in your niche (you and everyone else knows what are not good practice), you will become "relevant", traffic comes. It isn't overnight and no "quick fix" will produce long term results unless you have a sizeable budget with plenty of disposable 'testing' income.
dude

the people saying "there is no money in SEO" are JOKING.....wiredguy, the one that had it in his sig, is a 100% seo guy, LOL

so, in the future, when you see people saying that, is was just a joke on gfy that caught on widespread.....there is lots of money to be made in SEO, TONS of it....
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:23 PM   #8
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dude

the people saying "there is no money in SEO" are JOKING.....wiredguy, the one that had it in his sig, is a 100% seo guy, LOL

so, in the future, when you see people saying that, is was just a joke on gfy that caught on widespread.....there is lots of money to be made in SEO, TONS of it....
ahhhhh you must now die for letting the secret out
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:27 PM   #9
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they will just ban your ip....
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:39 PM   #10
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So, following the "if the only tool you have available is a hammer, you'll approach everything as a nail" theory...Use this or any other tool as your "smoking gun" with SE traffic and you'll find yourself on the short end of the stick long term.
That?s awesome. Word to the wise.



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Old 11-27-2006, 07:41 PM   #11
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ahhhhh you must now die for letting the secret out


I thought it was pretty obvious it was a joke, guess I was wrong
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:41 PM   #12
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Yuo dont think they will try and attatch an ip to a domain name and penalize the domain
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Old 11-27-2006, 08:04 PM   #13
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Old 11-27-2006, 08:08 PM   #14
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dude

the people saying "there is no money in SEO" are JOKING.....wiredguy, the one that had it in his sig, is a 100% seo guy, LOL

so, in the future, when you see people saying that, is was just a joke on gfy that caught on widespread.....there is lots of money to be made in SEO, TONS of it....
For everyone reading this Jace was just joking.
There really isn't any money in SEO.
In fact don't even try to optimize your sites it pointless.

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Old 11-27-2006, 09:29 PM   #15
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Yuo dont think they will try and attatch an ip to a domain name and penalize the domain
no they won't do that. then a competitor could easily ban your sites by implementing such tactics.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:39 PM   #16
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Hi all can you get your site banned in google for using seo tools like seo elite?

Or will it just be a ban on your ip? for doing to many qeuries.
Domain, they don't ban i.p.'s for years now.
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:40 PM   #17
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I thought it was pretty obvious it was a joke, guess I was wrong
Yep. You're right!

In my defense, I didn't even look at who posted it...thought it was the post, didn't look like a sig when I skimmed over it (I pay no attention to banners) and if you look at that single particular post, the sig content stands out more than the actual post content. Well, it did to me at the time.

Buying it? Me either. Okay, so I publicly fucked up (although I did say I was tired in the 'edit' I did at the time)...Oh well. Overall I think it was a pretty good post.

I will now to the gods for forgiveness...but keep your pants zipped.
I'm embarrassed...but not that much.

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Old 11-28-2006, 04:08 AM   #18
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Ah i see thanks everyone
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Old 11-28-2006, 04:42 AM   #19
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But how do they link your ip to your domain
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Domain, they don't ban i.p.'s for years now.
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Old 11-28-2006, 04:51 AM   #20
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Old 11-28-2006, 05:22 AM   #21
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Hmm are you sure about this?
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Old 11-28-2006, 05:32 AM   #22
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i think the ban is in the ip that holds the domain.... so if it is on ip shared than all domain will be banned....

and there is a lot of money in SEO... you do that on every page you create and you earn .... so there is money in sEO...
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Old 11-28-2006, 05:46 AM   #23
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O you mean if i was hosting my sites on the same ip i use to search google?
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i think the ban is in the ip that holds the domain.... so if it is on ip shared than all domain will be banned....

and there is a lot of money in SEO... you do that on every page you create and you earn .... so there is money in sEO...
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