BUSINESS THREAD ---- PPS programs decreasing payouts? - GoFuckYourself.com

polish_aristocrat · 11-25-2006, 09:19 AM

Looks like the opposite recently

f.e. SilverCash made the move 2 years ago from $35 to $30 per signup, blaming it on new Visa regulations. But it looks like they lost some market share (?) and now they just increased the payouts to $40 per sign up.

Many other companies, like Traffic Gigolos or Perfect Gonzo also increased payouts to $40 per sale. ( cam companies pay even more but they are a different animal )

All we hear is compliants about the retention getting worse, more free content being given away for free, every surfer having pop-up blockers installed etc..... but the PPS payouts increase regardless of that....

Do you see even more programs increasing payouts in future? Or even someone beating the competition alltogether and offering permanent $45 payouts per trial? ( I'm talking about one of the biggest, most reliable companies where we can assume that they don't shave

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Lazonby · 11-25-2006, 09:21 AM

Well, the more they increase, the more they will shave.

Theo · 11-25-2006, 09:22 AM

don't assume anything in this business

andrej_NDC · 11-25-2006, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

I'm talking about one of the biggest, most reliable companies where we can assume that they don't shave

Shaving doesn't depend on how big the company is or how reliable they seem to be. Look at AFF for example.

Probono · 11-25-2006, 09:42 AM

I think what you are seeing is a fight for market share in an increasing fragmented market. A gamble that the ROI will justify the increased marketing cost.

Agent 488 · 11-25-2006, 09:47 AM

to be honest i had a couple 35pps sign ups in the last couple days that are showing in the stats as 30 -

i guess when the shave is turned off the pps decreases ....

Drake · 11-25-2006, 09:52 AM

Interesting trend. I think Probono has a good point.

Trixxxia · 11-25-2006, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Probono

I think what you are seeing is a fight for market share in an increasing fragmented market. A gamble that the ROI will justify the increased marketing cost.

I'll add this: 'And a hope that the increase in volume will level the decrease in gross profits - enabling them to continue their growth."

maxcarter101 · 11-25-2006, 10:05 AM

Yeah shave city ahoy.

The Ghost · 11-25-2006, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Probono

I think what you are seeing is a fight for market share in an increasing fragmented market. A gamble that the ROI will justify the increased marketing cost.

Agreed. Unless the company has very deep pockets or one of the very few immense market success, they will most likely fail.

Tryme · 11-26-2006, 12:02 AM

If they retain 50% from the trial

$1 + $35 / 2 or $18 for the initial
$35 * .60 (say they keep 60% of those who paid 1 month) = $21

$21 + $18 = $39

then add in any extra months, upsells, exits, cross-sales and they can easily make more then $40. Also the people who look at work remember the name and type it in later at home and join.

Corona · 11-26-2006, 12:08 AM

They are making enough on Zango to cover the increased payouts.

thebossxxx · 11-26-2006, 01:24 AM

Not all sponsors skim with PPS's..

The Ghost · 11-26-2006, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tryme

If they retain 50% from the trial

$1 + $35 / 2 or $18 for the initial
$35 * .60 (say they keep 60% of those who paid 1 month) = $21

$21 + $18 = $39

then add in any extra months, upsells, exits, cross-sales and they can easily make more then $40. Also the people who look at work remember the name and type it in later at home and join.

True, but none of those figures factor in operational costs, new content, bandwidth/hosting, software, designers, programmers and the percentage that goes for processing.

andrej_NDC · 11-26-2006, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tryme

If they retain 50% from the trial

$1 + $35 / 2 or $18 for the initial
$35 * .60 (say they keep 60% of those who paid 1 month) = $21

$21 + $18 = $39

then add in any extra months, upsells, exits, cross-sales and they can easily make more then $40. Also the people who look at work remember the name and type it in later at home and join.

Yep, good math.

xxxice · 11-26-2006, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

don't assume anything in this business

agreed

polish_aristocrat · 11-26-2006, 11:12 AM

15 replies...hm, I guess that's the max for a serious biz thread ;)

squishypimp · 11-26-2006, 11:15 AM

if it wasnt profitable, people wouldnt be doing it.

Pleasurepays · 11-26-2006, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squishypimp

if it wasnt profitable, people wouldnt be doing it.

really.

dude..

seriously...

if you are going to just be an useless turd who posts absolute rubbish in every thread... at least try to put more than 2 seconds of thought into it. you might even consider thinking about the actual discussion and take a look at whats being discussed.

11-25-2006, 09:19 AM	#1
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	BUSINESS THREAD ---- PPS programs decreasing payouts? Looks like the opposite recently f.e. SilverCash made the move 2 years ago from $35 to $30 per signup, blaming it on new Visa regulations. But it looks like they lost some market share (?) and now they just increased the payouts to $40 per sign up. Many other companies, like Traffic Gigolos or Perfect Gonzo also increased payouts to $40 per sale. ( cam companies pay even more but they are a different animal ) All we hear is compliants about the retention getting worse, more free content being given away for free, every surfer having pop-up blockers installed etc..... but the PPS payouts increase regardless of that.... Do you see even more programs increasing payouts in future? Or even someone beating the competition alltogether and offering permanent $45 payouts per trial? ( I'm talking about one of the biggest, most reliable companies where we can assume that they don't shave ) __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

11-26-2006, 01:24 AM	#13
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11-26-2006, 11:15 AM	#18
squishypimp PostMaster General Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 10,781	if it wasnt profitable, people wouldnt be doing it. __________________ Signature For Sale

11-25-2006, 09:21 AM	#2
Lazonby Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,262	Well, the more they increase, the more they will shave.

11-25-2006, 09:22 AM	#3
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	don't assume anything in this business

11-25-2006, 09:42 AM	#5
Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	I think what you are seeing is a fight for market share in an increasing fragmented market. A gamble that the ROI will justify the increased marketing cost.

11-25-2006, 09:47 AM	#6
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	to be honest i had a couple 35pps sign ups in the last couple days that are showing in the stats as 30 - i guess when the shave is turned off the pps decreases ....

11-25-2006, 09:52 AM	#7
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Interesting trend. I think Probono has a good point.

11-25-2006, 10:05 AM	#9
maxcarter101 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 666	Yeah shave city ahoy.

11-26-2006, 12:02 AM	#11
Tryme Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 596	If they retain 50% from the trial $1 + $35 / 2 or $18 for the initial $35 * .60 (say they keep 60% of those who paid 1 month) = $21 $21 + $18 = $39 then add in any extra months, upsells, exits, cross-sales and they can easily make more then $40. Also the people who look at work remember the name and type it in later at home and join.

11-26-2006, 12:08 AM	#12
Corona Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Third mall from the sun Posts: 2,185	They are making enough on Zango to cover the increased payouts.

11-26-2006, 11:12 AM	#17
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	15 replies...hm, I guess that's the max for a serious biz thread ;)