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Old 11-22-2006, 02:40 AM   #51
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Old 11-22-2006, 02:43 AM   #52
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I will even do escrow service. You move money into escrow I do what I say. I get paid.
That is more reasonable.
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Old 11-22-2006, 03:04 AM   #53
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this character seems pretty shaddy, but being paid same/next day isnt neccesarily a bad thing. say for example if you're doing ppc or some other simliar form of advertising it's important that you get cash back asap to reinvest and buy more advertising. that 2-3 week buffer can make a world of difference.
someone able to have 100 sales a day shouldn't have any trouble in waiting 1-2 weeks or even 1 month. With only one month doing this he should have at lesat 90k in his pocket.

but what do I know

about the escrow thing, what's the point for escrow if the money will leave the same day anyway? As tempted as I feel to have someone doing this kind of thing, I just don't see it. Mistery guy who signs today and all of the sudden can send 100 signups a day as long as you pay him the same day... sorry, but I love my ass as is, no need for a new hole from FBI
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Old 11-22-2006, 03:55 AM   #54
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He wants it today because reputable programs canceled his account for blog spam.
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:03 AM   #55
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ROFL What an industry porn is. This guy admits spamming and using spyware to send his 100 joins per day yet I see sponsors in this thread who OPENLY stated their stand AGAINST spyware who now want to make a deal.

Money talks doesn't it? TFF...

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u sure r a nutball missie
can u plz provide me a quote that says he promotes spyware and/or spams?
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:04 AM   #56
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Old 11-22-2006, 05:10 AM   #57
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Old 11-22-2006, 06:35 AM   #58
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100X35 = $3500 per day

$3500 X 365 = 1.3 million per year

you = full of shit
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Old 11-22-2006, 06:48 AM   #59
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Cash paid daily? You either have an insane drug problem or are running a total fraud/scam.

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Old 11-22-2006, 07:08 AM   #60
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This guy comes in makes under 100 posts and trying to scam people already there is no way he can send legit 100 joins in one day he is a scamming fuck stay away. Wither that or he is one of these people who just talk out there ass all day, If any one gets smammed by this guy its their own fault as this seems to be to obvious
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Old 11-22-2006, 07:24 AM   #61
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Well perhaps he have 100 stolen credit cards and he want to transfer money from them using this method.I mean i dont see sense why is next day payout so important.
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Old 11-22-2006, 07:31 AM   #62
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where is he saying he's into spam? I thought it was black hat seo and shit.
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Old 11-22-2006, 07:33 AM   #63
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100X35 = $3500 per day

$3500 X 365 = 1.3 million per year

you = full of shit
he might, or might not, be a scammer but you're here thinking 1.3M per year is impossible?
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Old 11-22-2006, 07:35 AM   #64
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This guy comes in makes under 100 posts and trying to scam people already there is no way he can send legit 100 joins in one day he is a scamming fuck stay away. Wither that or he is one of these people who just talk out there ass all day, If any one gets smammed by this guy its their own fault as this seems to be to obvious
Amazing, in less than two full pages, you have surmised that not only is it impossible to send 100 joins in a day, but that this guy is a scam artist and warn people to stay away. Where is your proof that he has scammed anyone? I hate this witchhunt shit that happens here with people who have a refcode in their sig and don't know shit from shinola.

Unless you personally know this guy, or have any experience with the types of traffic he's talking about...kindly shut the fuck up.
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And on a related note, some of the best information I have ever read on this board has been posted by people with less than 100 posts. Post count != Who's who.
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Old 11-22-2006, 07:44 AM   #66
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Ill pay you 35.00 per day with a 24 hour payout on joins from the day before but only after we verify the traffic

I have over 250 sites to choose from in 30 languages and 40 niches so you will never run out of stuff to promote

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Old 11-22-2006, 07:45 AM   #67
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100X35 = $3500 per day

$3500 X 365 = 1.3 million per year

you = full of shit
LOL clueless

I had one guy sending me that for a long time and I was only 1 of 4 sponsors he did those kind of numbers with

so multiply that number by 4
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Old 11-22-2006, 07:51 AM   #68
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Well perhaps he have 100 stolen credit cards and he want to transfer money from them using this method.I mean i dont see sense why is next day payout so important.
If it were me, and I was sending thousands of dollars worth of sales everyday, and being that this business has had a history of companies just shutting down and leaving people hanging, I'd want my money as fast as possible too. Then again...that's just me.

You're probably right, he just wants to transfer money with stolen credit cards. (umm...) :rollsfuckingeyes:
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Old 11-22-2006, 10:06 AM   #69
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He wants it today because reputable programs canceled his account for blog spam.

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Old 11-22-2006, 10:15 AM   #70
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32,454 posts guess who I think is a joke?
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Old 11-22-2006, 10:17 AM   #71
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Missie, Please show me where this guy said it was spyware & spam, now you have me curious?

For everyone assuming he's a scam artist - I know for a fact there are affiliates that can send over XXX sales a day and the traffic is clean. There are many things a good sponsor protecting their interests looks for when accepting such deals - I HIGHLY doubt in THIS DAY AND AGE in the industry, that a company will turn a blindeye with all the legal issues going on - but I can be living in la-la-land sometimes too.

Also - Just FYI for the postcount affacionados - some of the affiliates that can bring in more than XXX amount of daily sales never hear of GFY other than it being a 'curse word'.
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:35 AM   #73
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ROFL What an industry porn is. This guy admits spamming and using spyware to send his 100 joins per day yet I see sponsors in this thread who OPENLY stated their stand AGAINST spyware who now want to make a deal.

Money talks doesn't it? TFF...

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Dear Miss Clueless

First of all he does not "admit" anything. (Read, Think, Write - Missie!)

second of all, this is not a case of spyware or email spam.

How come you have no trouble accusing this guy of something I just happens to know aint true?

Do you like being accused of doing something you don't do?

If your answer is no, then please shut the fuck up.
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:37 AM   #74
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yeah i didnt see anything about spam or spyware either trixxia.


plenty of whales have peculiar requirements. you don't do it, you don't get the joins
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:52 AM   #75
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yeah i didnt see anything about spam or spyware either trixxia.


plenty of whales have peculiar requirements. you don't do it, you don't get the joins
you might give a few of those whales a seizure with that banner
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Old 11-22-2006, 12:02 PM   #76
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dont be scared, only reason why anyone here is in biz is from black hat seo, email spam and spyware. Sorry but true, hit me up before you file 7!!!!
This post tells me that he's no stranger to these tactics and he thinks that it's the only reason why anyone is in business. I didn't make it up, his own words.

Take it for what it's worth, we have different interpretations of a post on GFY, no big deal. I don't let money signs blind me. If I'm wrong, it won't be the first time and it won't be the last. If I'm right, it's your problem if you make a deal with him, not mine. Either way, I couldn't care less what this guy does or doesn't do.

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This post tells me that he's no stranger to these tactics and he thinks that it's the only reason why anyone is in business. I didn't make it up, his own words.

Take it for what it's worth, we have different interpretations of a post on GFY, no big deal. I don't let money signs blind me. If I'm wrong, it won't be the first time and it won't be the last. If I'm right, it's your problem if you make a deal with him, not mine. Either way, I couldn't care less what this guy does or doesn't do.

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Good post.. you guys can quit jumping down her throat now. You act like she was making shit up out of thin air! His words, his name, his 'questionable' request to be paid every day, and not once did he deny it. Maybe he's not scamming, but if you put 2 and 2 together.. I'd say you'd be playing w/ fire dealing w/ this dude at the very least. And sleeping with the dogs is probably a much better analogy.

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ROFL What an industry porn is. This guy admits spamming and using spyware to send his 100 joins per day yet I see sponsors in this thread who OPENLY stated their stand AGAINST spyware who now want to make a deal.

Money talks doesn't it? TFF...

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no where did i see him admit to using those methods to bring in joins. he only said that the only people making real money are those doing blackhat seo, spam and spyware. those do make big money.
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Old 11-22-2006, 12:56 PM   #81
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no where did i see him admit to using those methods to bring in joins. he only said that the only people making real money are those doing blackhat seo, spam and spyware. those do make big money.
Nowhere did I see him deny it either...

And you wouldn't consider 100 joins per day with more than one sponsor big money? I guess based on YOUR words (bold text) that he doesn't consider himself as someone who makes real money either if he doesn't use those tactics since only those who use spamming and spyware do. I suppose you're right, $1M per year is peanuts to most people.

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This post tells me that he's no stranger to these tactics and he thinks that it's the only reason why anyone is in business. I didn't make it up, his own words.

Take it for what it's worth, we have different interpretations of a post on GFY, no big deal. I don't let money signs blind me. If I'm wrong, it won't be the first time and it won't be the last. If I'm right, it's your problem if you make a deal with him, not mine. Either way, I couldn't care less what this guy does or doesn't do.

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Missie you dodge the bullet pretty nicely but let me try to enlighten the people who can't see the toilet because of all the shit.

He does not oppose to spyware like you do.
but how do you reach the conclusion:
"This guy admits spamming and using spyware to send his 100 joins per day"

ERRR no he doesn't!

It is not because you interpret it different than I do, it's because you interpret it wrong!

and you say you don't let money signs blind you but you surely let words like spyware blind you....

Missie get a hold of yourself.

At last you say
"Either way, I couldn't care less what this guy does or doesn't do."

If that is what it's about you should have stayed the fuck out of this thread and if you're just saying that to dodge the bullet then you are a silly girl who can't admit SHE was the one blinded by words.
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He does not oppose to spyware like you do.
but how do you reach the conclusion:
"This guy admits spamming and using spyware to send his 100 joins per day"

ERRR no he doesn't!

It is not because you interpret it different than I do, it's because you interpret it wrong!
Says who? You? What makes YOU right? And why should I believe YOU? You think you interpret right so everyone else with a different opinion is wrong? What if others, yes like mysellf, are right and YOU are wrong because *I* say so? Where did you see that he doesn't use those methods? Because you KNOW so? hummm....

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If that is what it's about you should have stayed the fuck out of this thread and if you're just saying that to dodge the bullet then you are a silly girl who can't admit SHE was the one blinded by words.
Really? So because I read it different than you do, I have to stay out of the discussion? Man, you must be a real joy to talk to! Single huh?

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Says who? You? What makes YOU right? And why should I believe YOU? You think you interpret right so everyone else with a different opinion is wrong? What if others, yes like mysellf, are right and YOU are wrong because *I* say so? Where did you see that he doesn't use those methods? Because you KNOW so? hummm....

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Missie this is getting pathetic

I did not interpreted anything
I just read what it said and it said nothing about him using spyware.
Now that I also know for a fact that he doesn't I find your claim a little funny.

Just say where you find that he use spyware or kindly shut the fuck up.

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Really? So because I read it different than you do, I have to stay out of the discussion? Man, you must be a real joy to talk to! Single huh?

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Dodgin again
Can't blaim you though I would too
btw. Talking to you in person, this thing would never had ended up like this because I am sure you don't make empty claims when you stand in front of people and you know people can actually see what you are doing and argue against you.
Here you can just keep writing bullshit and eventually I will stop wasting my time on you.
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I feel like answering your question though.
I am not single and I love my girlfriend very much for that matter.

then again she doesn't make false claims all the time, that would might irritate me
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I find it quite amusing that people seem to think whales are the unicorns of the industry. Some of the folks in this thread would have a heart attack if they knew the volumes that some people push, day in and day out without using any illegal or illicit methods.
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Now that I also know for a fact that he doesn't I find your claim a little funny.
It wasn't meant to be funny but I guess you interpreted it your own way.

Someone who posts that those who make money in porn is because of spam, spyware and black hat, excuse me for taking it that this was his way of doing business. I personally consider sending 100 joins per day to more than one sponsor as making real money. Maybe it's because I'm the only one in porn who doesn't? Maybe. I don't know.

You know this guy personally? You can see everything he does to send his joins? Do you have access to logs to see where his sales come from? Or did you just take his word that he doesn't use any of these methods?

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I find it quite amusing that people seem to think whales are the unicorns of the industry. Some of the folks in this thread would have a heart attack if they knew the volumes that some people push, day in and day out without using any illegal or illicit methods.
No doubt about it and I do believe that. However, they wouldn't come here and post that the only way to make money in porn is to do it with those methods. THAT is my point.

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Old 11-22-2006, 01:43 PM   #89
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This guy comes in makes under 100 posts and trying to scam people already there is no way he can send legit 100 joins in one day he is a scamming fuck stay away.
don't know if he is scamming or legit, however, most of my big webmasters (whales) don't even post on gfy and the ones that do post have a post count around 100....

post count makes no difference, the higher the post count the more they are most likely wasting time here and not working, just sayin'

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It wasn't meant to be funny but I guess you interpreted it your own way.

Someone who posts that those who make money in porn is because of spam, spyware and black hat, excuse me for taking it that this was his way of doing business. I personally consider sending 100 joins per day to more than one sponsor as making real money. Maybe it's because I'm the only one in porn who doesn't? Maybe. I don't know.

You know this guy personally? You can see everything he does to send his joins? Do you have access to logs to see where his sales come from? Or did you just take his word that he doesn't use any of these methods?



You have no idea!!!

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I think I am intitled to interpret it as funny, so may you missie.

What I was angry about was that you just took it as a fact without knowing how he sends traffic and start warning people against him....
People might think that you new something they don't
This is not the case, hence the harsh words about you should stay out of it.

I don't know him personally so I could be tricked. Just talked to him and know what he does, and I know that is not spyware or email spam oriented at all.
I do believe from what I have seen that he should have no trouble sending 100 sales a day.
You could be right and I could be wrong but I just say I judge doing to some extra knowledge and you judge him upon a gut feeling of yours.

Now I speak nicely as I have to get back to work since I am having trouble reaching 100 sales day, probably because I bable and argue in dead conversations over nothing in threads thats really none of my concern.

Messie I am sure you are a nice person, but I just find it wrong of you to accuse him of something you can't proof

I made one mistake in my argument, so I will correct that, I can't bounce for his methods because I haven't seens his logs and blah blah blah.

This was not ment to be in deffence of blackhatter it was ment to be a critique of your post and the way you reach a conclusion.

Over and out.
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Old 11-22-2006, 02:13 PM   #93
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No doubt about it and I do believe that. However, they wouldn't come here and post that the only way to make money in porn is to do it with those methods. THAT is my point.

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Actually, Missie, I see where/why you may have interpreted it that way - but his response was to the claim that Blackhat SEO was 'BAD' and he was pointing out (to the gentleman that threw that comment) that the sponsor he was flying in his signature has a lot of traffic from cloaked pages (which is considered, by some, as black hat).

Now, taken in context, his reply back:
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dont be scared, only reason why anyone here is in biz is from black hat seo, email spam and spyware. Sorry but true, hit me up before you file 7!!!!
I took that as simply stating the facts of the history of this business. Seven to ten years ago, when this business was still in its infancy stage & booming - everyone did anything that was not 'illegal' at the time in order to get greater market share. As they grew into corporations & personal empires were built, laws changed in the US, things changed accordingly and are continuously changing. Not everyone accepts those practices - I agree - but I don't see him stating that spam or spyware are his traffic source or that he agrees with it.


Someone who is planning to de-fraud the sponsor will not want to accept the sponsor deducting chargebacks.

He states his stance on this here:
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Thats good I will even work with chargebacks too. If you can fed ex cash, even better we can work out a slick deal.
I don't know who would risk sending him cash via FedEx. I also would highly doubt any bank in the world will not question someone making $3k to $5k daily cash withdrawals from a corporate account. Then again, in this day and age, anything is possible.

**Just wanted to give you my perception of it**
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Old 11-22-2006, 02:14 PM   #94
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You could be right and I could be wrong but I just say I judge doing to some extra knowledge and you judge him upon a gut feeling of yours.
It wasn't a gut feeling at all, it was based on his own words. Big difference. Maybe I did interpret it wrong, and I did say that somewhere in a post, and maybe I didn't.

Normally people who DO use spyware/adware and spam extensively don't openly post it on public discussion boards and rarely, if ever, discuss it with people who don't, especially when they don't even know them. For good reasons. The best con artists are the ones who can fool you, me, and pretty much everyone else.

I wasn't angry at all, not at you or anyone else who "took a shot" at me in this thread. This is the internet where everything is up for our own views and interpretations. It would be boring as hell if we all had the same opinion on everything, wouldn't it?

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Nowhere did I see him deny it either...

And you wouldn't consider 100 joins per day with more than one sponsor big money? I guess based on YOUR words (bold text) that he doesn't consider himself as someone who makes real money either if he doesn't use those tactics since only those who use spamming and spyware do. I suppose you're right, $1M per year is peanuts to most people.

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i never said it was peanuts. maybe its just me but i see nothing wrong with blackhat seo or canspam email advertising. in my opinion at least spyware is in a totally different catagory. i do see something wrong with that. if he is doing that, then yeah then fuck him and anyone willing to work with him but spyware isn't the only way to make good money.
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Old 11-22-2006, 02:48 PM   #96
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No teen sites dont even ask. I dont promote that crap even if its legal. Not tring to get rich getting pedos off.
You don't know a lot about porn do you? Teen sites aren't getting signups from pedos There are tons of other niches that have a much much higher crap factor than teen sites, you will find out when you get more active in porn.
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i'll tell you the secret: wiki hacks and guestbook spam... that's what i really hate. you could have law problems too!
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Old 11-22-2006, 03:13 PM   #98
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here is a bump for the people clueless about blackhat seo (missie)

blackhat seo has legal tactics involved too thats can get tons of traffic, which have nothing to do with any spyware malware etc
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