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BusterBunny · 11-21-2006, 01:28 AM

fiddy zangoriffic replies

OzMan · 11-21-2006, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

also did anyone NOTICE that tampatoker has a ZANGO REP?

means he DEALS with zango

scroll up..he signed up with Zango to see how it works from the buyer's side not to make money with it. Same reason I installed Zango, not because I was bored and needed popups to click.

will76 · 11-21-2006, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

I'd totally agree with AFF blocking their keywords on zango so long as they arn't buying it themself - that would prevent a free market. I could not see them doing that.

According to the Zango rep that is what they are doing unless you think tampatoker is lieing. Will be curious to see what comes of that 3way call.

will76 · 11-21-2006, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

also did anyone NOTICE that tampatoker has a ZANGO REP?

means he DEALS with zango

no shit dumb ass. You a little slow tonight eh?

He said he got the information from his zango rep you just catching on now. Therefore I would have to think it was factual. If he is trying to spend money on their site to send to AFF and they tell him that he can't do you t hink they would turn down business unless they were 100% sure he couldn't do that.

emthree · 11-21-2006, 03:30 AM

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Brujah · 11-21-2006, 06:52 AM

If I'm not mistaken, the law does not allow you to selectively enforce your trademark.

TheSwed · 11-21-2006, 10:43 AM

interesting readings

will76 · 11-21-2006, 11:39 AM

Waiting to see how that phone call went. Sagi ? Did you have the 3way call yet with tampaguy and Zango ?

Fuckin Bill · 11-21-2006, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pornopete

This isn't true. Aff affiliates can buy zango traffic apparently and aff affiliate was buying a keyword that hijacked sleazy's tgp : http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=678434&page=2

It might not be the same thing. Some discussions were about keywords and others were about bidding directly on domain names. (I think)

Has there been any news on that conference call yet?

TampaToker · 11-21-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pornopete

This isn't true. Aff affiliates can buy zango traffic apparently and aff affiliate was buying a keyword that hijacked sleazy's tgp : http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=678434&page=2

I tried this all ready and still no luck. So i dont know what the hell is going on.

TampaToker · 11-21-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuckin Bill

It might not be the same thing. Some discussions were about keywords and others were about bidding directly on domain names. (I think)

Has there been any news on that conference call yet?

Hey could you repost that htacess file of yours it works great. I deleted it and now i cant find it. About the conference no there was none yet. I was asked who my rep was on ice and i told the person who asked. So we will wait and see.

TampaToker · 11-21-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pornopete

What exactly did you try?

First off i tried a splash page on my website for AFF pushing sexsearch.com and some keywords . They were disapproved. Then i tried my aff link going to sleazydream.com sexsearch.com and some keywords and they were disapproved. Now even the keywords were getting disapproved with this setup. Even thu others were bidding on same keywords and i made myself the highest bid.

borked · 11-21-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

I'd totally agree with AFF blocking their keywords on zango so long as they arn't buying it themself - that would prevent a free market. I could not see them doing that.

AFF makig a deal with zango to block their keywords would be EXACLY what everyone on here is asking for!

so maybe wait a day or too and see what happens. I have faith is AFF doing the right thing here.

I say wait a day or two simply cause it may take that long for zango up to update all their systems.

don't be so quick to judge - do it based on FACTS

Just think and read before you speak -
We don't yet know the FACTS whether AFF is blocking others bidding on their names. You seem to think that they are, or at least hope they are.

Yet if that is in any way remotely true, then what gives with AFF bidding on all the other names they hold no TM on? Didn't they even have high bid on your domain

This is all smelling like a whorehole at 5am on a Sunday morning if you ask me.

jayeff · 11-21-2006, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

If I'm not mistaken, the law does not allow you to selectively enforce your trademark.

You can choose whether to defend a trademark or not. The courts will rarely find in your favor if a defendant can demonstrate that on multiple or significant occasions you failed to defend it.

In other words, you have to defend it all the time or you may as well not bother at all...

borked · 11-21-2006, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

only to the chineese surfers that have credit cards

And BTW, your sig is WAAAAAAAY too big. Read the rules.

And your wonderful slogan should read:
[quote]Help is like sex. Take it wherever, whenever, and from whomever you can.[quote]

As it stands, it's really crap English.

QuaWee · 11-21-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by emthree

XXX Disney =

that's simpsons. xxx disney is alladin,lion king, etc...

will76 · 11-21-2006, 05:36 PM

Bump for that 3way call to get to the bottom of this. Has Sagi agreed to making this call ?

Tryme · 11-21-2006, 11:40 PM

so whats the deal?

Phil · 11-21-2006, 11:42 PM

from what I hear lars has no say in AFF biz. He's just a PR person.

Evil1 · 11-21-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

from what I hear lars has no say in AFF biz. He's just a PR person.

Thats gotta be BS, how bad do you have to suck at a job to get fired?

will76 · 11-21-2006, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

from what I hear lars has no say in AFF biz. He's just a PR person.

ok then maybe he can speak up for the cams.com zango ads ???

tiger · 11-22-2006, 12:32 AM

The only question I have is why? Why is AFF doing this? Right or wrong, ethical or not? Lars said himself the amount of money made and spent on Zango is extremely small. So why would you risk screwing with your affiliates in order to make such a "small" amount of money.

Fuckin Bill · 11-22-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

Hey could you repost that htacess file of yours it works great. I deleted it and now i cant find it. About the conference no there was none yet. I was asked who my rep was on ice and i told the person who asked. So we will wait and see.

Right here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=678826

Keep us updated

Evil1 · 11-22-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tiger

The only question I have is why? Why is AFF doing this? Right or wrong, ethical or not? Lars said himself the amount of money made and spent on Zango is extremely small. So why would you risk screwing with your affiliates in order to make such a "small" amount of money.

Could he be lying? Hmmmm

TheSwed · 11-24-2006, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

from what I hear lars has no say in AFF biz. He's just a PR person.

"Exactly how profitable is a mystery. No one doubts the company is profitable, and Conru says the company has been making money since 1996, mostly through Adultfriendfinder.com and Alt.com. As for his wealth, Conru, who owns 90 percent of Various, says only that he is worth more than $100 million. (The other 10 percent of Various is owned by Lars Mapstead, whose start-up, Cams.com, was acquired by the company last year.)"

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/15899851.htm

will76 · 11-24-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSwed

"Exactly how profitable is a mystery. No one doubts the company is profitable, and Conru says the company has been making money since 1996, mostly through Adultfriendfinder.com and Alt.com. As for his wealth, Conru, who owns 90 percent of Various, says only that he is worth more than $100 million. (The other 10 percent of Various is owned by Lars Mapstead, whose start-up, Cams.com, was acquired by the company last year.)"

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/15899851.htm

All Lars got was 10% ?? I thought he would have gotten more then that, but who knows the details.

I read something where Conru said Various inc. generates well over 100 million a year.

Since Conru is the main guy I would love to hear him weigh in on this issue.

TheSwed · 11-24-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

Since Conru is the main guy I would love to hear him weigh in on this issue.

I think he have bigger issue to deal with then Zango

Class Action Lawsuit Investigation
http://www.alexanderlaw.com/adultfri...der/index.html

Philip G · 11-24-2006, 10:57 AM

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Manowar · 11-24-2006, 11:00 AM

Something tells me this thread will run for a while

DaddyHalbucks · 11-24-2006, 12:45 PM

The way around some of this mess is to have a strong, famous, distinctive, registered trademark.

Have a policy that neither your competitors nor your affiliates can bid on any terms containing your trademark.

Be prepared to sue like a mofo to protect your intellectual property.

Playboy might be a good example of a company that puts up with no non-sense regarding its TMs.

SleazyDream · 11-24-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

no shit dumb ass. You a little slow tonight eh?

He said he got the information from his zango rep you just catching on now. Therefore I would have to think it was factual. If he is trying to spend money on their site to send to AFF and they tell him that he can't do you t hink they would turn down business unless they were 100% sure he couldn't do that.

so anything a troll does is factual and you dont' believe anything AFF does when they are the only company I know of with enough GUTS no to lie about using zango - soo many others do but you don't hear them admitting to it?

idiot

jayeff · 11-24-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

they are the only company I know of with enough GUTS no to lie about using zango

What guts does it take to admit something when screenshots have been plastered all over the board? Lars hasn't been any more vocal on other boards than the other guilty sponsors who have been silent here. But this is where Lars does most of his affiliate "marketing", so what choice did he have?

As it was, his "admission" was almost insulting and since then he has called everyone sheep for being concerned. Then he tried to make it seem as if this issue was nothing more than a personal drama between him and Will76. Finally, this week we haven't seen much of him or his sidekick...

You may feel the need to rationalize your continued support of AFF, but if you plan on convincing anyone there is more to it than that, you need to come up with some less transparent reasoning.

RawAlex · 11-24-2006, 03:22 PM

It doesn't take guts to not lie about using zango, but it does take amazing gall and a total lack of respect for your affiliates to even go there to start with.

The fake profile lawsuit will potentially take them down, especially if the FTC gets involved.

Congrats to the winners ahead of time.

will76 · 11-24-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

so anything a troll does is factual and you dont' believe anything AFF does when they are the only company I know of with enough GUTS no to lie about using zango - soo many others do but you don't hear them admitting to it?

idiot

You are one the biggest fools on here, regardless if you are a bro or a troll.

The issue was between tampatoker and zango. He said that is what they told him either he is lieing or zango told him that and they are lieing. I doubt zango would turn away business so I believe him. I also went and checked this information myself you moron. I went to aff,cams,alt, passion, etc.. about 10 times, each time i got a zango ad for one of their other sites. So I confirmed with my own eyes what he was saying.

So a theif admits to stealing something = you suppose to trust them.

AFF might have admitted to use Zango (only after Zango outed them) but they have made about 10 bullshit excuses WHY they use it since then. They were obviously lieing when they said they were working on a way to stop it.

It's a wonder anyone does business with you since you are such a big fool. If it isn't your " everyone here is a nobody and i have my nice house and travel the world " comments or your " you are all trolls" insults, or just your overall stupid comments and blind backing of AFF, it is a wonder anyone works with you. It's not like TGP traffic is in short supply.

TampaToker · 11-24-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

so anything a troll does is factual and you dont' believe anything AFF does when they are the only company I know of with enough GUTS no to lie about using zango - soo many others do but you don't hear them admitting to it?

idiot

A troll lol you a funny guy. Everything i posted i was told. I requested a confrence call on the air with lars to debate the issue and requested that the webmaster listen in. I all so requested a three way call with my zango rep. Atleast saggi contacted me and asked me who i spoke with at zango. Thats all there has been since then.

You know that last few weeks i been puting in alot of time in on this zango stuff. Working with company's and webmaster how to protect there programs and there afilliates. If people choose to belive me thats fine but if not hey no problem there either thats there biz . Now lets cut out all the bullshit. Anyone making any good money at all aint gonna switch from any sponsor doing any shady shit.

And with the guts enough comment lol Zango outed them and in several ways. So dont act like they came out one day and said "hey guys we use Zango just to let you know. So tell me sleazy is it pissing you off that a bunch of nobody's are making this much noise. Im not just talkin about aff/cams.com stuff either. I am refering the whole ad ware issues. I dont care who you are if you are wrong you are wrong and i will debate you on it. What pisses me off the most is this whole ad ware issue effects the little guys and i will fight for the little guy any damn day.

monro · 11-25-2006, 12:09 AM

bump again

cindyc · 11-25-2006, 07:58 PM

I send all of my traffic to www.datinggold.com to avoid problems like this.

cindyc · 12-09-2006, 06:44 PM

zango sucks.. they need to stop that.

TampaToker · 02-01-2007, 02:43 AM

This bump is for sleazy

Nysus · 02-01-2007, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

also did anyone NOTICE that tampatoker has a ZANGO REP?

means he DEALS with zango

Really, are you that stupid? Do you know what gathering information means? How the fuck do private detectives do investigations? Fucking tell the person their investigating what they're doing? You look like a fucking moron in this case, sorry but I have to say it finally from all of your other ignorant posts trying to defend Zango.

Nysus · 02-01-2007, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

so anything a troll does is factual and you dont' believe anything AFF does when they are the only company I know of with enough GUTS no to lie about using zango - soo many others do but you don't hear them admitting to it?

idiot

I missed this gem of yours. How the fuck would they lie about using Zango? Yes, I'm swearing, I'm tired and I can't sleep, grumpy and uncensored.

BaldBishop · 02-01-2007, 04:04 AM

Bump .

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