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Missie 11-21-2006 12:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11358220)
LOL Lars fucking ripped on me for hours saying " IF clickcash was really working on it they would have a solution by now".

So what the fuck is that all about. It is ok for you guys to take a while to find a solution but Clickcash should have it solved by now ??? :upsidedow

Nothing you can do to protect your trademark. Make 100+ million dollars a year and your team of lawyers can't use google?

Hotel operator Six Continents charges the controversial ad company with trademark infringement for serving pop-up ads over its hotel Web sites.

http://clickz.com/showPage.html?page=1501721#Scene_1

SAME THING. Gator settled on damages and stopped doing it. They knew they didn't have a leg to stand on to fight it.
The only difference here Will is that these companies that sue probably don't pop their own ads over their competitors' sites like AFF does. They want to stop others from using their trademarks and covering their sites with ads yet they do it to them too. What do they want? The whole cake and eat it too? A judge would laugh them out of court.

Missie

Kimo 11-21-2006 12:38 AM
i smoke rocks


but i dont do business with zango


crack heads > zango heads

TampaToker 11-21-2006 12:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Missie (Post 11358242)
The only difference here Will is that these companies that sue probably don't pop their own ads over their competitors' sites like AFF does. They want to stop others from using their trademarks and covering their sites with ads yet they do it to them too. What do they want? The whole cake and eat it too? A judge would laugh them out of court.

Missie
I dont see how its fair business practice of any company poping up over my website which i did all the work to get them there. So we will see how all plays out.

will76 11-21-2006 12:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Missie (Post 11358242)
The only difference here Will is that these companies that sue probably don't pop their own ads over their competitors' sites like AFF does. They want to stop others from using their trademarks and covering their sites with ads yet they do it to them too. What do they want? The whole cake and eat it too? A judge would laugh them out of court.

Missie
So maybe another sponsor who is getting their site poped over should sue AFF and Zango. :2 cents:

will76 11-21-2006 12:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 11358235)
You care to do a threeway call with me and my rep. I wanna clear this up.

Looking forward to hearing how your 3way call with Sagi and Zango will go tomorrow. Great way to get to the bottom of it :thumbsup

What time is the call ?

SleazyDream 11-21-2006 12:51 AM
I'd totally agree with AFF blocking their keywords on zango so long as they arn't buying it themself - that would prevent a free market. I could not see them doing that.

AFF makig a deal with zango to block their keywords would be EXACLY what everyone on here is asking for!

so maybe wait a day or too and see what happens. I have faith is AFF doing the right thing here.

I say wait a day or two simply cause it may take that long for zango up to update all their systems.

don't be so quick to judge - do it based on FACTS

Paul Markham 11-21-2006 12:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11358220)
SAME THING. Gator settled on damages and stopped doing it. They knew they didn't have a leg to stand on to fight it.
Thats the hotel and newspaper business. They think beyond next week and have ethics and morals *turn off sarcasm*.

They do not go for the quick buck, they see the way forward. This industry started rarely thinks beyond next week unless planning on what pimp outfit to wear at the next show.

nofx 11-21-2006 01:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11358385)
I'd totally agree with AFF blocking their keywords on zango so long as they arn't buying it themself - that would prevent a free market. I could not see them doing that.

AFF makig a deal with zango to block their keywords would be EXACLY what everyone on here is asking for!

so maybe wait a day or too and see what happens. I have faith is AFF doing the right thing here.

I say wait a day or two simply cause it may take that long for zango up to update all their systems.

don't be so quick to judge - do it based on FACTS
you push AFF on your ugly looking TGP

</biased slant>

LOL

SleazyDream 11-21-2006 01:05 AM
also did anyone NOTICE that tampatoker has a ZANGO REP?


means he DEALS with zango

SleazyDream 11-21-2006 01:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nofx (Post 11358425)
you push AFF on your ugly looking TGP

</biased slant>

LOL
only to the chineese surfers that have credit cards :thumbsup

BusterBunny 11-21-2006 01:28 AM
fiddy zangoriffic replies :pimp

OzMan 11-21-2006 01:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11358439)
also did anyone NOTICE that tampatoker has a ZANGO REP?


means he DEALS with zango
scroll up..he signed up with Zango to see how it works from the buyer's side not to make money with it. Same reason I installed Zango, not because I was bored and needed popups to click.

will76 11-21-2006 02:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11358385)
I'd totally agree with AFF blocking their keywords on zango so long as they arn't buying it themself - that would prevent a free market. I could not see them doing that.
According to the Zango rep that is what they are doing unless you think tampatoker is lieing. Will be curious to see what comes of that 3way call.

will76 11-21-2006 02:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11358439)
also did anyone NOTICE that tampatoker has a ZANGO REP?


means he DEALS with zango
no shit dumb ass. You a little slow tonight eh?

He said he got the information from his zango rep you just catching on now. Therefore I would have to think it was factual. If he is trying to spend money on their site to send to AFF and they tell him that he can't do you t hink they would turn down business unless they were 100% sure he couldn't do that.

emthree 11-21-2006 03:30 AM
XXX Disney =
http://www.heathen.ru/gg/marge-orgy.jpg

Brujah 11-21-2006 06:52 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the law does not allow you to selectively enforce your trademark.

TheSwed 11-21-2006 10:43 AM
interesting readings
:pimp

will76 11-21-2006 11:39 AM
Waiting to see how that phone call went. Sagi ? Did you have the 3way call yet with tampaguy and Zango ?

Fuckin Bill 11-21-2006 01:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 11363509)
This isn't true. Aff affiliates can buy zango traffic apparently and aff affiliate was buying a keyword that hijacked sleazy's tgp : http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=678434&page=2
It might not be the same thing. Some discussions were about keywords and others were about bidding directly on domain names. (I think)

Has there been any news on that conference call yet?

TampaToker 11-21-2006 01:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 11363509)
This isn't true. Aff affiliates can buy zango traffic apparently and aff affiliate was buying a keyword that hijacked sleazy's tgp : http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=678434&page=2
I tried this all ready and still no luck. So i dont know what the hell is going on.

TampaToker 11-21-2006 01:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuckin Bill (Post 11363548)
It might not be the same thing. Some discussions were about keywords and others were about bidding directly on domain names. (I think)

Has there been any news on that conference call yet?
Hey could you repost that htacess file of yours it works great. I deleted it and now i cant find it. About the conference no there was none yet. I was asked who my rep was on ice and i told the person who asked. So we will wait and see.

TampaToker 11-21-2006 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 11363670)
What exactly did you try?
First off i tried a splash page on my website for AFF pushing sexsearch.com and some keywords . They were disapproved. Then i tried my aff link going to sleazydream.com sexsearch.com and some keywords and they were disapproved. Now even the keywords were getting disapproved with this setup. Even thu others were bidding on same keywords and i made myself the highest bid.

borked 11-21-2006 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11358385)
I'd totally agree with AFF blocking their keywords on zango so long as they arn't buying it themself - that would prevent a free market. I could not see them doing that.

AFF makig a deal with zango to block their keywords would be EXACLY what everyone on here is asking for!

so maybe wait a day or too and see what happens. I have faith is AFF doing the right thing here.

I say wait a day or two simply cause it may take that long for zango up to update all their systems.

don't be so quick to judge - do it based on FACTS

Just think and read before you speak -
We don't yet know the FACTS whether AFF is blocking others bidding on their names. You seem to think that they are, or at least hope they are.

Yet if that is in any way remotely true, then what gives with AFF bidding on all the other names they hold no TM on? Didn't they even have high bid on your domain :1orglaugh

This is all smelling like a whorehole at 5am on a Sunday morning if you ask me.


http://www.graffitiverite.com/f-greed.JPG

jayeff 11-21-2006 01:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11360411)
If I'm not mistaken, the law does not allow you to selectively enforce your trademark.
You can choose whether to defend a trademark or not. The courts will rarely find in your favor if a defendant can demonstrate that on multiple or significant occasions you failed to defend it.

In other words, you have to defend it all the time or you may as well not bother at all...

borked 11-21-2006 02:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11358495)
only to the chineese surfers that have credit cards :thumbsup
And BTW, your sig is WAAAAAAAY too big. Read the rules.

And your wonderful slogan should read:
[quote]Help is like sex. Take it wherever, whenever, and from whomever you can.[quote]

As it stands, it's really crap English.

QuaWee 11-21-2006 02:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by emthree (Post 11359387)
that's simpsons. xxx disney is alladin,lion king, etc...

will76 11-21-2006 05:36 PM
Bump for that 3way call to get to the bottom of this. Has Sagi agreed to making this call ?

Tryme 11-21-2006 11:40 PM
so whats the deal?

Phil 11-21-2006 11:42 PM
from what I hear lars has no say in AFF biz. He's just a PR person.

Evil1 11-21-2006 11:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 11368086)
from what I hear lars has no say in AFF biz. He's just a PR person.
Thats gotta be BS, how bad do you have to suck at a job to get fired?

will76 11-21-2006 11:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 11368086)
from what I hear lars has no say in AFF biz. He's just a PR person.
ok then maybe he can speak up for the cams.com zango ads ???

tiger 11-22-2006 12:32 AM
The only question I have is why? Why is AFF doing this? Right or wrong, ethical or not? Lars said himself the amount of money made and spent on Zango is extremely small. So why would you risk screwing with your affiliates in order to make such a "small" amount of money.

Fuckin Bill 11-22-2006 03:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 11363605)
Hey could you repost that htacess file of yours it works great. I deleted it and now i cant find it. About the conference no there was none yet. I was asked who my rep was on ice and i told the person who asked. So we will wait and see.
Right here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=678826

Keep us updated :)

Evil1 11-22-2006 03:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiger (Post 11368307)
The only question I have is why? Why is AFF doing this? Right or wrong, ethical or not? Lars said himself the amount of money made and spent on Zango is extremely small. So why would you risk screwing with your affiliates in order to make such a "small" amount of money.
Could he be lying? Hmmmm

TheSwed 11-24-2006 08:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 11368086)
from what I hear lars has no say in AFF biz. He's just a PR person.
"Exactly how profitable is a mystery. No one doubts the company is profitable, and Conru says the company has been making money since 1996, mostly through Adultfriendfinder.com and Alt.com. As for his wealth, Conru, who owns 90 percent of Various, says only that he is worth more than $100 million. (The other 10 percent of Various is owned by Lars Mapstead, whose start-up, Cams.com, was acquired by the company last year.)"

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/15899851.htm

:pimp

will76 11-24-2006 09:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSwed (Post 11383673)
"Exactly how profitable is a mystery. No one doubts the company is profitable, and Conru says the company has been making money since 1996, mostly through Adultfriendfinder.com and Alt.com. As for his wealth, Conru, who owns 90 percent of Various, says only that he is worth more than $100 million. (The other 10 percent of Various is owned by Lars Mapstead, whose start-up, Cams.com, was acquired by the company last year.)"

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/15899851.htm

:pimp
All Lars got was 10% ?? I thought he would have gotten more then that, but who knows the details.

I read something where Conru said Various inc. generates well over 100 million a year.

Since Conru is the main guy I would love to hear him weigh in on this issue.

TheSwed 11-24-2006 10:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11383834)
Since Conru is the main guy I would love to hear him weigh in on this issue.
I think he have bigger issue to deal with then Zango

Class Action Lawsuit Investigation
http://www.alexanderlaw.com/adultfri...der/index.html
:pimp

Philip G 11-24-2006 10:57 AM
bumpity bump bump

Manowar 11-24-2006 11:00 AM
Something tells me this thread will run for a while

DaddyHalbucks 11-24-2006 12:45 PM
The way around some of this mess is to have a strong, famous, distinctive, registered trademark.

Have a policy that neither your competitors nor your affiliates can bid on any terms containing your trademark.

Be prepared to sue like a mofo to protect your intellectual property.

Playboy might be a good example of a company that puts up with no non-sense regarding its TMs.


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