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You know, I've seen enough of the Will76/Lars threads
It's enough already.
The lines are drawn. Choose your side and shut the fuck up. that is all.
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sig heil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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sorry I dont think people are going to let us go away like alot of people hope for.
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Very gangsta...
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Agreed 100%!!
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There is no love lost between myself and Zango (and all of their previous names) but pretending to be part of a fight between ifriends and aff is silly and unproductive. (as are the countless threads about it)
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agreed!!!!!!!
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I get tired of the threads as well, however I also believe in hammering the fact into the ground, that companies like AFF continue to steal from affiliates by supporting scum-ware companies like zango.
If there were not any large adult companies like AFF supporting Zango, then sure kill the topics. However as long as a major adult affiliate programs with the power of cams and adult friend finder continue to buy traffic from scum ware which steals from webmasters. Then I say continue to bash them until webmasters finally wake up and stop sending them traffic or we shame AFF them into stopping it's use.
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People who go on crusade, generally go because they have nothing else to do. ![]()
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I'm for one wish this board would come back to the webmasters and talk more about the biz, and share ideas instead of fucking each other over.
I guess most would rather see would you hit it threads all day. Instead figuring away to stop people from stealing your signups? |
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Seriously.. I've been doing this fulltime for 5+ years and you've had ZERO to do with my biz... And the (sad?) reality of life is that no one really cares what one has done in the past, it's what you're doing today that matters. |
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![]() Oh, and zango has cost me over 100k. what's it cost you? an imaginary singup somewhere? This post is about the big picture. Perhaps you'd know that if you had the time I spent in this business and the window of opportunity I have had. ![]()
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seriously, I've been in this business for 9 years and I've never noticed you. I'm sure you had a point to make in this thread. ![]()
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its too bad this has become personal, for me its not about lars vs will, its about adult companies thinkings its ok to use this type of advertising.
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We've seen what, about 100 threads about it? I know who I will and will not do business with. do we need a 101st post to figure it out?
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yeah as ive said b4 i dont give a fuck about lars or will, but what i do HATE is zango, and anyone that supports it.
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No I figure because it wasnt about you. You had the world, you were at the gold rush. Where did you stumble? By the way Im 42 lol
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One of the things that aggravates me personally is that no matter how many times you state your position, if you were not in the most recent thread condemning Zango, you are assumed to be in support.
The other day when Video Secrets said they were against Zango, they were commended and a few people posted that they were glad that a ?few companies get it.? I think a couple of people actually stated that only 5 companies were against Zango. Weg has been against this type of traffic well before Will76 went on this crusade. I hate to break it to everyone, but this is not new. I had a meeting well before the crusades with our CTO and we arranged a plan to try to find out how much it affected us. I have also hit up Smokey and had conversations with him regarding it, I am sure he can verify such. While I appreciate people trying to better the industry, I do think people need to keep perspective and understand that we all can?t post all day long about the issue. I stated that Weg does not accept Zango traffic and will do what we can to counter it, and as far as I know, well more than 5 affiliate programs reflected the exact same position. But because we aren?t in all the threads, we are somehow supporting it. Because I don?t bash Lars, I support it. Go back to Will?s original thread and look at all the programs that agreed they do not accept the traffic. I know for fact that before Will ever brought this up, we were discussing the subject privately with other program operators and our affiliates. Saying you are tired of the threads is not saying you support Zango or any affiliated companies. It is saying you are tired of the threads. Many people knew about all of this before the crusades. Wegcash as a program has a track record of supporting affiliates. We do not and have never needed a crusade to motivate our decision-making. And if you take the above statements to be aggressive towards Will, they are not. I appreciate good will as much as anyone. My personal opinion is that the lines are drawn, however, they are just post on a message board and I don?t have to read them; Hence, I don?t care if they are posted all day long or not. However, we should make a better effort to consolidate independent business ideals.
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tony and his wife have all but made the BBW niche their own, mandy is one of the most famous and best retaining bbw sites on the net...they both know what they are doing and probably have more retaining members than any 12x site you own. tony is a intelligent and very well rounded member of the adult community, and you speak to him like he has done nothing and can't generate revenue in the adult internet industry....if you are going to dig on someone, at least do a little research first |
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I'm far too young to retire. Don't be bitter because you didn't start as early as I did, be thankful. Your only excuse for not succeeding is safe because of it. ![]()
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i love how people that have been in the indistry "forever" seem to think that they are all knowing...
the bottom line is we are all trying to protect our interests. i prefer to stay out of the spotlight, yet i produce more joins a month than 95% of the people here. 12clicks is right, at the end of the day it's about business and my business does include people stealing my teffic with adware. so, i have two choices, either become part of the solution or become part of the problem... i have made my choice and when everything comes to light, i expect everyone to say "he's only protecting his business".... |
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Kinda funny you making a thread about what you are bitching about
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you attacked me so I bought up my resume and I really meant it, you were nice there for a while. I didnt have to be insincere, I dont need to kiss your ass.
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about 100 threads ago I stated that having dealt with zango in main stream, I would not take it's or any other adware program's traffic. I just think the dead horse is not only beaten, its no longer interesting.
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Sorry i gotta disagree with you. When people are getting "traffic intercepted" from them that means they are losing $$$. To me i find that very interesting and will continue to post about it. Now a simple fix for your problem would to be simply bypass the threads were it is obvious what we are talkin about.
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I don't suffer fools. sorry that doesn't fit with your version of "nice"
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That only about 99% of this biz might actually care what you think.
Frankly I find it very refreshing that this issue hasn't just faded off GFY like most issues even if a lot of the threads are just haters using it to get exposure for themselves or their programs. So when someone comes on here and attempts to make it "disappear", it pisses me off. The reality is that a lot of people still don't know about it or even understand it so it needs to remain in the forefront in order to get the message out to more WMs. Case in point, the new cam site operator that didn't even know about this board and found a thread about it thru google and is now aware and learning about the issue. Not everyone reads GFY. |
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HUmmm there's a couple fo sexy man in this thread... Oui Oui ;-)
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Anyone who really cared about stopping zango, would not be posting on gfy, they'd be hitting the FTC website. however, its so much easier to get on the latest GFY bandwagon and seem cool.
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That's why bringing it up on the forums over and over helps. The more affiliates of AFF/Cams know what is going on, the more that will likely stop sending traffic and move it elsewhere.
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Really? You mean a person can only do 1 thing and not any others??? Damn.. I'd better cut back on what I'm doing...
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Honestly I think Will did bring awareness but I agree with you, the song remains the same.
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totally unrelated to the subject at hand, but 12clicks can you hit me up on ICQ? i got a few questions about your program
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as with any other issue , if its still important to people they will still start threads.. no different than any other news.. some will tire of it before others..
Standard internet has a history with "zango-like" products right ? How much money did SI make distributing zango-like products ? so its not suprising its a dead issue to you and not us.. you made money , we lost money ![]() ![]()
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![]() You've started threads before about SI and history with zango like products only to dissapear when pressed to back up your false claims. again no offense but if you'd like, I can probably find the threads. ![]()
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I thought you ran an adware company?
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