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11-19-2006, 04:31 PM

ok so if you look at this screenshot of the zango installer you'll notice that the installer has a pre checked "I am over 18 years old" box at the bottom

But as I thought about zango for a minute and what they offer it came to me, Zango does not offer ANY content on their site aimed at people over 18 years old! Just about everything on their site is for kids with all their games and stupid videos. So does this mean that zango is aiming the porn site popups at children as I could not find any content that would intise over 18's to download zango. Also the 18 years old box is PRECHECKED so most people would just hit return and never notice this box but if it was not prechecked then they would loose a lot of customers as everything is aimed at kids, So in affect you buy traffic from zango your really sending porn to children this really disturbs me. I do admit that there will be a lot of over 18's with zango but I would say most are under 18. Just an observation! So what do you think guys is zango intentionally serving up porn to children? Is this grounds for reporting zango to some sort of regulator? Or am I just looking to far into this!

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11-19-2006, 04:34 PM

Yes I am sure they get A LOT of kids with zango installs. Maybe not the majority of users, but a lot for sure. And having that pre-checked is just wrong. But then, everything about scumware is just wrong.

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11-19-2006, 04:35 PM

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11-19-2006, 04:37 PM

that would be like me making a porn paysite with barbie dolls and my little pony on the front page and once they sign up they get hardcore porn instead
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11-19-2006, 04:37 PM

The pre-checked approve or over 18 boxes are directly against the rules that Zango has agreed to adhere to from Truste for toolbar and download installs.

Zango pre-checks every approve, accept, or over 18 box... corporate policy.

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11-19-2006, 04:37 PM

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11-19-2006, 04:46 PM

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11-19-2006, 04:47 PM

When I used to have a site on adware/spyware/malware, I got a lot of emails from parents who let their kids on the family computer and sure enough computers were full of crap. Parents seemed to always be the ones to notice something was very wrong with the system, but most of the time kids were the ones who got this shit in the computer in the first place. Yes kids got a lot of popups too, including porn.

Computers were infected with MANY adware programs as most of them come bundled. One woman who had emailed me about removing zango (it kept coming back after uninstalling it) a few years back had gotten it when she downloaded a free kids game for her DAYCARE use.

A lot of this stuff is aimed at kids... simple reason for this, they don't read anything!! They just want to get the free game or whatever it is they want, so they click "yes", "ok", "I agree" but they have no clue what they're getting. My niece is 11 years old and every time she touches the computer, it ends up with some crap in it. All she does is play games and chat with friends. Good thing she has her own and no valuable info in it.

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11-19-2006, 05:00 PM

exactly my point missie! but is this not deemed illegal to in effect aim porn at children?
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11-19-2006, 05:01 PM

silly zango tactics...thats pretty low

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11-19-2006, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by jacklaidlaw

exactly my point missie! but is this not deemed illegal to in effect aim porn at children?

Again, I am not fluent in zango, but I thought it only popped up on the keywords or URL's that were purchased.

Wouldn't that mean that mainstream is using this against their competition too? So unless the kid did a search for porn they aren't going to get hit with cams, but if they do a search for My Little Pony, they might get Barbie popping up.

Right?
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11-19-2006, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by baddog

Again, I am not fluent in zango, but I thought it only popped up on the keywords or URL's that were purchased.

Wouldn't that mean that mainstream is using this against their competition too? So unless the kid did a search for porn they aren't going to get hit with cams, but if they do a search for My Little Pony, they might get Barbie popping up.

Right?

Or maybe they do a search for "Barbie" and get ads for Lannie Barbie?
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11-19-2006, 05:11 PM

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google that e-mail address and you'll find that vid on yahoo, and tons of other sites..

no pops.. just don't click "Watch".. and sure enough, the checkbox is pre-checked..
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11-19-2006, 05:11 PM

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11-19-2006, 05:17 PM

all that needs to be im the url is cam so if I goto www.camera.com or www.camerondiaz.com I would get hit with a cams popup
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11-19-2006, 05:18 PM

also when I was younger I used to search for live cam feeds from arounf the world to see what places looked like I am sure plenty other kids do or did the same
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11-19-2006, 05:35 PM

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11-19-2006, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by jacklaidlaw

also when I was younger I used to search for live cam feeds from arounf the world to see what places looked like I am sure plenty other kids do or did the same

So, are you 18 yet?
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11-19-2006, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by jacklaidlaw

also when I was younger I used to search for live cam feeds from arounf the world to see what places looked like I am sure plenty other kids do or did the same

Install zango and tell me how many of these get a porn popup from zango.
I would be interested in seeing that result.
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11-19-2006, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by baddog

So, are you 18 yet?

I said "WHEN" I was younger

Originally posted by baddog

Install zango and tell me how many of these get a porn popup from zango.
I would be interested in seeing that result.
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11-19-2006, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by jacklaidlaw

I said "WHEN" I was younger

How old were you when the Internet became a household item?

If that isn't a chop, that is bullshit. However, it would be interesting to know if that was bought by AFF or an affiliate.
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11-19-2006, 06:16 PM

The over 18 may be the legal age to sign the license agreement.
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11-19-2006, 06:19 PM

That is no chop check it out for yourself I am 19 nearly 20 now so I had the internet at 10 or sommit like that
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11-19-2006, 06:34 PM

zango is a real pain in the ass for even little children.

I can just immagine parents telling their kids no computer until we get it fixed after seeing some of these popups

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11-19-2006, 06:47 PM

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11-19-2006, 06:53 PM

didnt zango get busted a while ago and had to pay like 3 million for deceptive adware downloads to the ftc.

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11-19-2006, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by jacklaidlaw

I said "WHEN" I was younger

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11-19-2006, 07:42 PM

That really sucks. The software and those supporting it is fucking up the industry... and its illegal in many countries to target kids.
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11-19-2006, 07:50 PM

alaska has got the right idea http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives..._antiadw_1.htm

Also it does not mention in the zango eula about adult sites whatsoever so there is no warning of adult sites at all
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11-19-2006, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by jacklaidlaw

that would be like me making a porn paysite with barbie dolls and my little pony on the front page and once they sign up they get hardcore porn instead

they don't care. They get paid everytime their zango page pops up. Whether or not the person has a credit card or is old enough to buy they don't care they get paid. If you removed all the traffic that comes from kids I bet they would take a huge cut in revenue.

The can try to spin it anyway they want but they can't deny the fact that the kids games and shit comes with the search assistant bundled in. The search assistant the part that targets the urls and pops up pages that some adult companies are paying for. If zango cared they wouldn't include a feature that displays porn on content that is aimed at kids.

I've mentioned this in the past and think this would be a great way to get the religious groups who are trying to protect kids from porn to help fight zango. If someone could get this info to them and get them fired up about it, they could do a lot more damage then we could.

Google: warner bros zango
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11-19-2006, 07:55 PM

if someone could send a complaint to http://www.ftc.gov/ there is a button on their site and send them a link to this thread that would be very helpful (I can't I live in the uk and I don't think it works for me)
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11-19-2006, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by baddog

Again, I am not fluent in zango, but I thought it only popped up on the keywords or URL's that were purchased.

Wouldn't that mean that mainstream is using this against their competition too? So unless the kid did a search for porn they aren't going to get hit with cams, but if they do a search for My Little Pony, they might get Barbie popping up.

Right?

LOL someone sent me an ICQ just the other day that did a suggested keyword search on zango for "xxx" and one of the suggestions came back with something like " free disney xxx "

Do you think all words that we use for adult sites are exclusivly used for adult and none of them also have common uses in mainstream ?

What about "disney webcams" ? the word "teen" how often is that associated with adult sites? I am sure there are a good bit of terms that have porn and non porn uses that kids could be looking for.

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11-19-2006, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by baddog

So, are you 18 yet?

He sounds like he is older then you or at least more mature. here he is bringing up very good questions and concerns about something you have stated you know very little about and you have claimed does not affect you but yet you are in here making insults at the person who is actually doing something good.

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11-19-2006, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by will76

He sounds like he is older then you or at least more mature. here he is bringing up very good questions and concerns about something you have stated you know very little about and you have claimed does not affect you but yet you are in here making insults at the person who is actually doing something good.

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11-19-2006, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by baddog

How old were you when the Internet became a household item?

Are you serious? You realize the internet has been a household item for nearly a decade now, right? I used the internet as a minor and I'm 25 now.
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11-20-2006, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by JMan

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BadDog, maybe you should read/install Zango yourself and learn how it works

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11-20-2006, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by will76

He sounds like he is older then you or at least more mature. here he is bringing up very good questions and concerns about something you have stated you know very little about and you have claimed does not affect you but yet you are in here making insults at the person who is actually doing something good.

Really, what insults were those?
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11-20-2006, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by KrisKross

Are you serious? You realize the internet has been a household item for nearly a decade now, right? I used the internet as a minor and I'm 25 now.

And they have had live webcam feeds from around the world for a decade?
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11-20-2006, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by jacklaidlaw

if someone could send a complaint to http://www.ftc.gov/ there is a button on their site and send them a link to this thread that would be very helpful (I can't I live in the uk and I don't think it works for me)

We don't need to send the FTC to this board.

You can definitely complain about Zango to the FTC though. They know what Zango is up to but will surely prioritize their list of scummy companies based on the number of complaints received.

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11-20-2006, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by baddog

And they have had live webcam feeds from around the world for a decade?

I am pretty sure for 8 years now they have.

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11-20-2006, 03:14 PM

baddog, you're such a dumbass. You're sole purpose in this thread is to troll jacklaidlaw because he has some additional zango information? Admit it, you're just a sigwhore aren't you baddog?

Anyway, yes they had live cam feeds 10+ years ago. For such an old fucker, did you get into the internet late? There were cam reflectors, and cams long long ago. How about White Pine? Do you remember them? Or the Cornell CU-SEEME?

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11-20-2006, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Brujah

baddog, you're such a dumbass. You're sole purpose in this thread is to troll jacklaidlaw because he has some additional zango information? Admit it, you're just a sigwhore aren't you baddog?

Anyway, yes they had live cam feeds 10+ years ago. For such an old fucker, did you get into the internet late? There were cam reflectors, and cams long long ago. How about White Pine? Do you remember them? Or the Cornell CU-SEEME?

yeah, and I am sure kids were surfing the web for feeds around the world back then.

Why don't you go back and read my posts?
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11-20-2006, 03:26 PM

Baddog = Tried to look clever and dispute someone, ended up looking stupid.. Again.. as usual.

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11-20-2006, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by Babaganoosh

We don't need to send the FTC to this board.

You can definitely complain about Zango to the FTC though. They know what Zango is up to but will surely prioritize their list of scummy companies based on the number of complaints received.

From: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2006/11/zango.htm

(The FTC press release concerning the proposed consent agreement with 180 Solutions/Zango)

"The agreement will be subject to public comment for 30 days, beginning today and continuing through December 5, after which the Commission will decide whether to make it final.

Comments should be addressed to the FTC, Office of the Secretary, Room H-135, 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20580.

The FTC is requesting that any comment filed in paper form near the end of the public comment period be sent by courier or overnight service, if possible, because U.S. postal mail in the Washington area and at the Commission is subject to delay due to heightened security precautions."

There's more stuff about the FTC and Zango here, including an analysis of the proposed agreement to "aid public comment."

The FTC snail mail address listed in bold above is as good a place as any to submit comment about Zango; be sure to relate your comment in some way to the proposed consent agreement/settlement, though, or they will likely not give your comment much consideration.

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11-20-2006, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by Quentin

From: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2006/11/zango.htm

(The FTC press release concerning the proposed consent agreement with 180 Solutions/Zango)

"The agreement will be subject to public comment for 30 days, beginning today and continuing through December 5, after which the Commission will decide whether to make it final.

Comments should be addressed to the FTC, Office of the Secretary, Room H-135, 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20580.

The FTC is requesting that any comment filed in paper form near the end of the public comment period be sent by courier or overnight service, if possible, because U.S. postal mail in the Washington area and at the Commission is subject to delay due to heightened security precautions."

There's more stuff about the FTC and Zango here, including an analysis of the proposed agreement to "aid public comment."

The FTC snail mail address listed in bold above is as good a place as any to submit comment about Zango; be sure to relate your comment in some way to the proposed consent agreement/settlement, though, or they will likely not give your comment much consideration.

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We would need some major awareness brought to this, in order to have any kind of effect probably. Strong letters written who make good solid points and raise issues they may not have considered. I would love to see Jayeff come up with something we could all print, sign and mail in too. Anyone who has read his thoughts knows what I mean.

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11-20-2006, 04:04 PM

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11-20-2006, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by Brujah

We would need some major awareness brought to this, in order to have any kind of effect probably. Strong letters written who make good solid points and raise issues they may not have considered. I would love to see Jayeff come up with something we could all print, sign and mail in too. Anyone who has read his thoughts knows what I mean.

Yep. Good prose and organized thoughts are both good; documented evidence of possible criminal activity, and/or documented evidence of conduct that fails to comport with what they've agreed to do under the proposed consent agreement - either of those would be even better.

Honestly, research like Ben Edelman's, alone, might be enough to get the FTC to reexamine their settlement with Zango, assuming the information he has presented is accurate, and his data (and documentation of that data) holds up to scrutiny.

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11-20-2006, 04:12 PM

If you want to protect your site from zango you should check out this thread and bump it occationally as this maybe the answear to stopping zango from stealing sales untill they are banned http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=679128
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11-20-2006, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by will76

LOL someone sent me an ICQ just the other day that did a suggested keyword search on zango for "xxx" and one of the suggestions came back with something like " free disney xxx "

Do you think all words that we use for adult sites are exclusivly used for adult and none of them also have common uses in mainstream ?

What about "disney webcams" ? the word "teen" how often is that associated with adult sites? I am sure there are a good bit of terms that have porn and non porn uses that kids could be looking for.

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11-20-2006, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Missie

A lot of this stuff is aimed at kids... simple reason for this, they don't read anything!! They just want to get the free game or whatever it is they want, so they click "yes", "ok", "I agree" but they have no clue what they're getting. My niece is 11 years old and every time she touches the computer, it ends up with some crap in it. All she does is play games and chat with friends. Good thing she has her own and no valuable info in it.

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