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Sleazy Dream says you and your posts don't matter.

11-19-2006, 01:06 AM

Sleazy. I looked online for a directory of people who matter and don't matter and I can't find one.

I want to be cool when I grow up and I want to matter. Can you please give me a list of people who matter. You said you talked to 30 people today who all matter and don't think I matter.

I am sure other people here are wondering if they matter or not. Can you give us the criteria for mattering and how much it cost to send in membership dues to the " i matter club" I really want to join this club so I can show off my bling bling car and suck everyone else's dick while we talk about how everyone else is losers.

Originally posted by SleazyDream

dude - what a moron fails to see is a post is meaningless unless it's from someone who MATTERS - will76 doesn't matter - trolls don't matter. You don't matter.

in reply to me:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

what reputation? - talking to about 30 people today on icq - people that matter, people that run huge companies - not GFY trolls. they all pretty much think you're a complete fool.

you lost all of it when you started this on one company and didn't include everyone that uses zango. personal vendetitas arn't cool and show insanity

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...1#post11345221

Is this the criteria for mattering?

Originally posted by SleazyDream

guys like lars and I are living in luxery homes (we OWN) driving luxery cars flying first class around the world with multiple real estate properties and cash in the bank.

So it has nothing to do with reputation, doing good business, treating people right, delivering a good product, honesty, integrity, etc.. the mark of a real person who matters is what he drives and how big his house is.

thanks for clearing that up for us.

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11-19-2006, 01:07 AM

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11-19-2006, 01:08 AM

Look man,
I don;t know who you are but I'm tired of hearing about you on here
Hush
Be quiet
No one matters until THE FRED thinks they do,
and he don't think you do yet.
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11-19-2006, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by MrMaxwell

Look man,
I don;t know who you are but I'm tired of hearing about you on here
Hush
Be quiet
No one matters until THE FRED thinks they do,
and he don't think you do yet.

I don't want to matter. Please do not consider me. I do not want to associate with people who think what they drive/ own is more important then their reputation and how they conduct business.

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11-19-2006, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by will76

I don't want to matter. Please do not consider me. I do not want to associate with people who think what they drive/ own is more important then their reputation and how they conduct business.

I don't; think either of the thing
I just am tired of hearing about you,
What are you?
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11-19-2006, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by MrMaxwell

I don't; think either of the thing
I just am tired of hearing about you,
What are you?

I am just an affiliate. What are you ?

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11-19-2006, 01:55 AM

i matter

I poop in a toilet

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11-19-2006, 02:15 AM

I've disliked Sleazy based on his posts. He acts like he's some major authority in the industry when in fact he's not.
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11-19-2006, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by will76

I am just an affiliate. What are you ?

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11-19-2006, 02:25 AM

Will, you really have to stop thinking Sleazy matters or has any pull with anything. He carries a lot of weight around here, but it's not the kind of weight you think. It's the kind you get from all those Big Mac's.

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11-19-2006, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by Brujah

Will, you really have to stop thinking Sleazy matters or has any pull with anything. He carries a lot of weight around here, but it's not the kind of weight you think. It's the kind you get from all those Big Mac's.

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11-19-2006, 03:09 AM

"Originally Posted by SleazyDream :
guys like lars and I are living in luxery homes (we OWN) driving luxery cars flying first class around the world with multiple real estate properties and cash in the bank."

So did Al Capone
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11-19-2006, 03:41 AM

Listen many may dislike Sleazydream and oddly enough most of them have never once met the guy. People will attempt to cap on him and his success just accusing him of having a tgp at the right time in the industry. Though rarely do I ever see those same haters explaining much more than that, nor about the galleries he had done, or the exclusive he had shot all to build his business. So if you want to hate find a valid reason and start from there, as I see very few of the same hating on the others that happened to be in the right place and the right time. Should we maybe get all over the huns ass for long ago he would bypass peoples main and ad page and link directly to their picture pages without asking?

I personally have never even met the guy. I just know several people that do know him. Every single one of them will say without hesitation that he would give the shirt off his back to help a friend out. He just may grind a few peoples nerves here, so fucking what. It is not like you are not tap dancing on almost every ones last nerve as well will76.

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11-19-2006, 03:49 AM

If Sleazy is nice and cool to 10 people, it's natural that those 10 people are going to be nice and cool with him too. When he's a prick to many others, they're just going to be pricks to him in return. That alone is a valid reason.

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11-19-2006, 04:06 AM

I have no idea whether Sleazy believes all of the rubbish he writes or if he does so to press peoples' buttons. He is a fool if he does believe that money makes the man: it simply makes for men who can be extremely embarassing to be around, until they learn otherwise.

He is also wrong in a practical sense that has more relevance to this context. Change in business is indeed driven from the top, but it is often a reaction to an awareness of what customers want. In this regard affiliates are customers and as more sponsors perceive an advantage in promoting themselves as anti-scumware, more affiliates will become aware of the scumware issue and avoid sponsors who do not make such declarations. In particular they will avoid sponsors who align themselves with scumware.

In short, if enough affiliates make enough noise about scumware, they can drive change even though they may have little impact initially on the prime offenders. Business history is littered with once successful companies which acted as if the rules of the marketplace no longer applied to them.

That said, you should not have started this thread.

When you first started posting about scumware, you were performing a service and while doing so would obviously raise your profile, that did not seem to be your intention. Several sponsors were mentioned in your early posts and those posts were written objectively. I even understand why it was easier and made sense to target Lars and his programs: he does maintain a high profile on this board.

But over the past few weeks your posts have become increasingly personal and non-objective. Tactically that is the worst thing you could be doing since it was obvious that those who want to protect the status quo would at some point start attacking you on a personal level. You needed to stay objective, avoiding the language and style which is commonly associated with GFY drama. By reacting to the personal attacks in the way that you have, you are becoming guilty of that of which you are being accused. You are also beginning to cloud the issue as much as your attackers are attempting to and that is playing straight into their hands.

Look on the personal attacks as a sign that your efforts are making an impact. Ignore most of them and the more vitriolic those attacks become, the more objective and respectful your posts should be. More people may reach conclusions from that contrast than from what is actually written.

This issue is not Will76 vs Lars and a lot of people have put time and effort into making that clear. You deserve credit for persisting so that it was taken up more widely. Don't throw all that away by trivialising it down to a series of personal squabbles.
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11-19-2006, 04:10 AM

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11-19-2006, 04:13 AM

Originally posted by monro

"Originally Posted by SleazyDream :
guys like lars and I are living in luxery homes (we OWN) driving luxery cars flying first class around the world with multiple real estate properties and cash in the bank."

So did Al Capone

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11-19-2006, 04:29 AM

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11-19-2006, 05:02 AM

I basically understand that I am a nobody and what i do or don't do in this indistry will affect no one, but that can't stop me from saying that i hate spyware/scumware whatever you want to call it. this entire movement on the internet has driven me crazy. i pay good money for my computers and internet connection. i do not want them trashed by shitty aps i either don't agree to install or am duped into installing on my computer. coupled with the fact that i now know certain software straight up steals from hardworking people, i can't agree to support anyone who supports these companies. having not seen the dozens of threads regarding this subject here, i might not have ever known about what is going on. maybe a constant reminder is whats needed to keep the idea in people's head. i mean, what pisses you off more, having to skim past a thread you're not interested in, or haing someone steal your hardearned money?
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11-19-2006, 05:28 AM

Oh please,

Who cares about sleazy?
In effect he's a nobody himself .. who just happened to open a TGP back in the day when any moron could do it

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11-19-2006, 06:06 AM

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11-19-2006, 06:40 AM

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11-19-2006, 06:50 AM

I don't think anybody here is going down in the annals of history for their achievements in internet porn. Sleazy included.

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11-19-2006, 06:57 AM

Don't let a "TGP webmaster" get under your skin

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11-19-2006, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by Dveron

I don't think anybody here is going down in the annals of history for their achievements in internet porn. Sleazy included.

i went down the anal once.

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11-19-2006, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by Dveron

I don't think anybody here is going down in the annals of history for their achievements in internet porn.

I like that

There is also a saying in business which is that you are only as good as your next idea...
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11-19-2006, 07:57 AM

I woke up this morning... THAT Matters.

Will I agree with a lot of people. Time to get back to work and give this a rest as WE ALL know about Zango and the who's who in that story.

It is getting old

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11-19-2006, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by JMan

I woke up this morning... THAT Matters.

Will I agree with a lot of people. Time to get back to work and give this a rest as WE ALL know about Zango and the who's who in that story.

It is getting old

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11-19-2006, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by JMan

It is getting old

It won't get old until it stops. Scammers rely on the lethargy of the majority for getting away with what they do and everyone who encourages or excuses that lethargy is helping them.
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11-19-2006, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by will76

So it has nothing to do with reputation, doing good business, treating people right, delivering a good product, honesty, integrity, etc.. the mark of a real person who matters is what he drives and how big his house is.

for Will76 ! Pathetic isn't it??

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11-19-2006, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by jayeff

It won't get old until it stops. Scammers rely on the lethargy of the majority for getting away with what they do and everyone who encourages or excuses that lethargy is helping them.

Action speaks louder then bitching all the time

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11-19-2006, 08:14 AM

If you ignore a problem it won't go away. Even though will76 might be getting on people's nerves, I fucking salute the hell out of him for having the balls and determination to fight this thing to the end.

Sleazy is without a doubt a very smart and respectable guy, but lets not that he has a very good relationship with AFF. Therefore its natural for him to defend them. Is it wrong? yup... but you'd probably do the samething if you're friend had fucked up like Lars did.

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11-19-2006, 08:40 AM

Will76,

Do you ever make any posts where you don't bitch??

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11-19-2006, 09:08 AM

yet sleazy can't spell luxury? the ceo of enron also had a pretty nice house, cars, etc. look what happened to him. i enjoy not mattering in the biz, i wouldn't want to have to put up people wanting something from me all the time.

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11-19-2006, 09:43 AM

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11-19-2006, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by Platinum Bryan

Will76,

Do you ever make any posts where you don't bitch??

How about you making a post in which you state PB's position as regards scumware?
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11-19-2006, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by NTM

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11-19-2006, 10:08 AM

Stated plainly and simply for the plain and simple folk ---

I . will . never . support . adware/scumware . nor promote . any . company . that does.

If 100's of other webmasters can honestly say the same thing then that is all that matters.

All bickering, cocking off, name calling and in-fighting going on is irrelevant.

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11-19-2006, 10:19 PM

guess what will76 - it's NEVER been a secret - i think all YOUR posts are worhtless and dont' matter.

I also think EVERY OTHER MEMBER OF THIS BOARD'S posts are worthless and don't matter.

fuck are you ever stupid, have you been living under a rock - I've said that from day one too - 6 years on here telling evering fucking person from ron leve to worthless trolls they're idiots and you STILL DON"T FUCKING GET IT!!

duuuuuuuu

does that make it any clearer

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11-19-2006, 10:30 PM

Will - you should feel very very special.

In those quotes you made of Sleazy, he *almost* made no 'speeling' mistakes. Until of course he hit "vendetitas"

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11-19-2006, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by jayeff

I have no idea whether Sleazy believes all of the rubbish he writes or if he does so to press peoples' buttons. He is a fool if he does believe that money makes the man: it simply makes for men who can be extremely embarassing to be around, until they learn otherwise.

He is also wrong in a practical sense that has more relevance to this context. Change in business is indeed driven from the top, but it is often a reaction to an awareness of what customers want. In this regard affiliates are customers and as more sponsors perceive an advantage in promoting themselves as anti-scumware, more affiliates will become aware of the scumware issue and avoid sponsors who do not make such declarations. In particular they will avoid sponsors who align themselves with scumware.

In short, if enough affiliates make enough noise about scumware, they can drive change even though they may have little impact initially on the prime offenders. Business history is littered with once successful companies which acted as if the rules of the marketplace no longer applied to them.

That said, you should not have started this thread.

When you first started posting about scumware, you were performing a service and while doing so would obviously raise your profile, that did not seem to be your intention. Several sponsors were mentioned in your early posts and those posts were written objectively. I even understand why it was easier and made sense to target Lars and his programs: he does maintain a high profile on this board.

But over the past few weeks your posts have become increasingly personal and non-objective. Tactically that is the worst thing you could be doing since it was obvious that those who want to protect the status quo would at some point start attacking you on a personal level. You needed to stay objective, avoiding the language and style which is commonly associated with GFY drama. By reacting to the personal attacks in the way that you have, you are becoming guilty of that of which you are being accused. You are also beginning to cloud the issue as much as your attackers are attempting to and that is playing straight into their hands.

Look on the personal attacks as a sign that your efforts are making an impact. Ignore most of them and the more vitriolic those attacks become, the more objective and respectful your posts should be. More people may reach conclusions from that contrast than from what is actually written.

This issue is not Will76 vs Lars and a lot of people have put time and effort into making that clear. You deserve credit for persisting so that it was taken up more widely. Don't throw all that away by trivialising it down to a series of personal squabbles.

Good post. I know it's alot of words people but it should be read.

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11-19-2006, 11:41 PM

who cares, who matter... just do yoh thang!!! LOL!!!

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11-19-2006, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

guess what will76 - it's NEVER been a secret - i think all YOUR posts are worhtless and dont' matter.

I also think EVERY OTHER MEMBER OF THIS BOARD'S posts are worthless and don't matter.

fuck are you ever stupid, have you been living under a rock - I've said that from day one too - 6 years on here telling evering fucking person from ron leve to worthless trolls they're idiots and you STILL DON"T FUCKING GET IT!!

duuuuuuuu

does that make it any clearer

Sorry I just really never noticed you before so I didn't know you were like that

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11-20-2006, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by will76

Sorry I just really never noticed you before so I didn't know you were like that

i did a search and you posted in several dozen of my threads, and have responded to me multiple times on many subjects - you loose credibility every day moron.

your'e a moron and an idiot. total and complete

if you're do a comeback do one with some intelligence PLEASE

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11-20-2006, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Jace

i matter
I can go buy a meal at a restaurant right now

I am drunk as shit right now

Not only do you matter, you're also an inspiration. Two damned fine ideas right there.
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11-20-2006, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

i did a search and you posted in several dozen of my threads, and have responded to me multiple times on many subjects - you loose credibility every day moron.

your'e a moron and an idiot. total and complete

if you're do a comeback do one with some intelligence PLEASE

Hey look, don't get mad because I don't know who you are and I never noticed you before. Look at my post count, obviously i have replied to 4700 other people over the last 3 years.

Sorry if you remember talking to me but I don't remember talking to you. I can't help it if I never noticed you before. Don't hold it against me that I haven't heard of you or taken notice of you. Look, i can't notice everyone.

If it makes you feel better I know who you are now. So you run a TGP right ?

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11-20-2006, 10:51 AM

What ???
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11-20-2006, 04:35 PM

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11-20-2006, 05:01 PM

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