My 2 cents on this Will76 vs. Lars bullshit? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

will76 · 11-17-2006, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Although I do not know for sure...I am pretty certian that they are no longer buying traffic from Zango. If that shit has been installed, it's been installed...shame on them.
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Jay, AFF is not doing the installs. They are buying traffic from other people who are doing the installs, You making it sound like " if it has been installed, then it's been installed" so AFF has stopped but it is still happening because it is has been installed. I know i probably just lost you, sorry, but I think everyone else follows me on this one.

Cliff notes, they don't do installs. They can stop right now if they wanted to and never use zango for their sites again, and sue tomorrow to protect their urls from others using it.

Kimo · 11-17-2006, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

AdultFriendFinder from time to time as a small part of its advertising budget places ad buys with companies which some people might call “adware”. Adware is software that is installed on a user’s computer with notice and consent by the user. In some instances such adware will use contextual ads - for example it may scan web pages for references to certain keywords and then pop up relevant ads from its advertisers. Typical keywords for AdultFriendFinder may include “dating” and “friend”. One of the motivating factors in AdultFriendFinder placing such adware ads is to effectively compete in the online dating marketplace - namely if AdultFriendFinder does not place such ads our competitors will make deals with the adware companies to place such ads to our detriment.

It has come to our attention that some affiliates are unhappy about some uncommon and unintended side effects of adware advertising – in some instances the adware will scan a web page and pop up an “in context” AdultFriendFinder ad in a browser window next to an affiliate’s ad for AdultFriendFinder in another browser window. This scenario certainly makes us uncomfortable and creates a catch-22 for us – if we stop buying the contextual adware ads our competitors’ sites will pop up and we may lose sales and if we keep buying adware ads we may find from time to time our ads will pop up near our affiliate’s ads for our sites.

While it is perfectly legal for us to place ads with internet software providers like adware companies, specialized browser providers, and search engines that place our ads near our affiliates ads (for example this happens often with keyword buys on search engines) this notion of the adware ad “collisions” that has recently been raised does make us feel somewhat uncomfortable – in other words we find ourselves sympathetic with those who have not been happy with this bizarre result.

So we decided to look further into the adware issue. While we are at least partially at the mercy of the programmatic techniques of the given adware companies we are already exploring and experimenting with technology solutions to try to figure out ways to reduce the number of “adware collisions”. Our primary method of tracking affiliate traffic is not by using cookies (as has been wrongly suggested on some board postings) but rather by coded URLs – this may have to change. Suffice it to say that for now we appreciate the comments that have been made on the boards to date by our affiliates (yes even the adverse ones) and we will attempt to address this unforeseen consequence of adware ad buys in the near future. If AdultFriendFinder affiliates have any comments or proposed solutions you may e-mail me at lars at legendarylars.com

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=666036

Penthouse Tony · 11-17-2006, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF

I think this is the "HE MUST BE MAKING MONEY WITH AFF" thread.

Will you should try it. It's not too late.

http://adultfriendfinder.com/go/pa

Brujah · 11-17-2006, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Show me the money will76....show me the money will76!

All's I've seen is you on the board posting a lot of bullshit. I know 1000% that some of the shit you posted was total bullshit because you posted it about me.

I ask for URLs or evidence. You give me nothing.

If you keep repeating the same manta its easy to get the other sheep to believe it. Repeat it often enough, you might believe it yourself.

Jay, you're blind. You only see what you want to see.

You want to think Lars is cool and that they aren't promoting Zango anymore, but he fucking admits he's still doing it all over the board. When you're so blinded that you don't want to see it.. even if it's right in front of your face you aren't going to notice.

Lars has never said he stopped doing it. Did he tell you that? If he did, that would mean he lied to you.

will76 · 11-17-2006, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by WWC-Raffi

well said....although i dont know who Will76 is but Lars is a cool guy...had dinner and hung out at SmashBucks dinner....

he is a stand up guy i met him once at a show

Tryme · 11-17-2006, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Those statements lead me to believe that you don't really understand how Zango works and that you really haven't been reading many of the Zango threads. If you had been reading, you'd know that Lars has brazenly stated on many occasions that he has no qualms about continuing to use Zango as a traffic source while downplaying its negative effects on affiliates and fellow webmasters.

I find it interesting that in the last few days 3 influential people on this board have came out in support of Lars, - Sleazy, BoyAlley and XXXJay. What's interesting is that in all 3 of their posts they displayed a lack of understanding of what is really going on with Zango and how its affecting them now and will affect them in the future. The gist of their posts gave you the feeling that they were siding with Lars based on him being a "well known good guy" and not on the merits of his actions regarding his company's involvement with Zango.

well said!

I remember a thread with them talking about it being on Jays site, I could have sworn with a screenshot too.

Jace · 11-17-2006, 01:30 AM

jay, I hate to say it man, but I agree with others in this thread

you obviously don't understand how zango works, and AFF is still on there BTW

xxxjay · 11-17-2006, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

Jay here you go guy. if you want i can make a video for you if you like. Also on that page i notice you pushing pussycash good choice

You know what...I will call Lars tomorrow and get to the bottom of this.

Novel idea. No?

xxxjay · 11-17-2006, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

jay, I hate to say it man, but I agree with others in this thread

you obviously don't understand how zango works, and AFF is still on there BTW

How do you know it is not an AFF affiliate? Here, I do agree, if we had an affiliate using Zango to send us traffic we would delete the account without pay. AFF and others should do the same.

TampaToker · 11-17-2006, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

You know what...I will call Lars tomorrow and get to the bottom of this.

Novel idea. No?

Feel free to hit up on icq if you really wanna find out how all this shit works. Its really fuckin nasty man. I could target every page of yours if i wanted . But this is not just zango there are about 23 other companys doing this as well.

SmokeyTheBear · 11-17-2006, 01:35 AM

hey i respect lars too , but that doesnt mean just because you like/admire someone doesn't mean they do no wrong.. nor does it make will76 the bad guy for being the one with enough balls to say something about it..

will76 may come off as a bit of a drama queen but sometimes you gotta shout to be heard.. ( obviously at some point its no longer ballsy and just annoying but hey thats just my opinion. )

Do i think lars is the devil for buying into zango ? no
but by the same token i dont think will76 is the devil for making it a crusade for him ..

but screw the drama and lets get back to business .. if this is the new NORM for adult then lets be building some spyware folks..

If anything this zango this is a sounding horn to the adult industry thats its ok to use spyware to promote adult sites... not exactly the trend i wanted to see but i can live with it ..

Tryme · 11-17-2006, 01:35 AM

Does Jay not care about a 5%+ shave? If not then all sponsors he promotes should do it to him. Why should Aff be the only one to do it.

TampaToker · 11-17-2006, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

How do you know it is not an AFF affiliate? Here, I do agree, if we had an affiliate using Zango to send us traffic we would delete the account without pay. AFF and others should do the same.

But they are buying the traffic jay lars admits to it. So how are they gonna term a afillate for doing it if they are doing it them selfs

Tryme · 11-17-2006, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

You know what...I will call Lars tomorrow and get to the bottom of this.

Novel idea. No?

I'd Call him now. Why wait? Maybe you'll realize you've been getting fucked hard.

Best thing lars can tell you is, hey sorry bro I won't buy your site anymore.
but thanks for the extra cash.

Kimo · 11-17-2006, 01:39 AM

Jay the quote and thread I posted shows Lars admitting that it is his company and not an affiliate.

xxxjay · 11-17-2006, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tryme

Does Jay not care about a 5%+ shave? If not then all sponsors he promotes should do it to him. Why should Aff be the only one to do it.

What the heck is that?

TampaToker · 11-17-2006, 01:43 AM

also jay that was the first page i clicked on your site. i can go thru you site if you like and see if there is anything else. Not tryin to be a smartass just offering you my help.

lazycash · 11-17-2006, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

How do you know it is not an AFF affiliate? Here, I do agree, if we had an affiliate using Zango to send us traffic we would delete the account without pay. AFF and others should do the same.

Because there's no affiliate link in the popup, its straight from AFF/Cams.com

xxxjay · 11-17-2006, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kimo

Jay the quote and thread I posted shows Lars admitting that it is his company and not an affiliate.

It's a dog-eat-dog world...

"This scenario certainly makes us uncomfortable and creates a catch-22 for us ? if we stop buying the contextual adware ads our competitors? sites will pop up and we may lose sales and if we keep buying adware ads we may find from time to time our ads will pop up near our affiliate?s ads for our sites"

I'll call him in the morning.

xxxjay · 11-17-2006, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

also jay that was the first page i clicked on your site. i can go thru you site if you like and see if there is anything else. Not tryin to be a smartass just offering you my help.

Yeah, please do. It will just give me more ammo for my chat. Check www.xxxpornmovielinks.com also please.

Webby · 11-17-2006, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

he is a stand up guy i met him once at a show

Shows should be banned - it would keep webmasters from licking ass and being impressed by folks who don't really matter in the first instance - even worse, making business decisions based on the personality bullshit

Shit.. that crap is depressing and embarassing - awesome how easily impressed folks can be

lazycash · 11-17-2006, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

hey i respect lars too , but that doesnt mean just because you like/admire someone doesn't mean they do no wrong.. nor does it make will76 the bad guy for being the one with enough balls to say something about it..

will76 may come off as a bit of a drama queen but sometimes you gotta shout to be heard.. ( obviously at some point its no longer ballsy and just annoying but hey thats just my opinion. )

Do i think lars is the devil for buying into zango ? no
but by the same token i dont think will76 is the devil for making it a crusade for him ..

but screw the drama and lets get back to business .. if this is the new NORM for adult then lets be building some spyware folks..

If anything this zango this is a sounding horn to the adult industry thats its ok to use spyware to promote adult sites... not exactly the trend i wanted to see but i can live with it ..

Very well put, people want to make this a Lars vs. Will76 thing, and it isn't. Whether you like or dislike Will's methods for calling out something he feels is having a detrimental affect on the adult online industry, the bottom line is the message not the deliverer.

You raise an interesting point Smokey, at what point do others join in and follow Lars simply to offset the perceived competitive advantage he may have in using spyware to promote his programs. If enough programs jump on the bandwagon it could become an acceptable form of promotion. Certainly there are some standard promotion methods being used today, that back in 99 would have been considered risky and unethical.

xxxjay · 11-17-2006, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

hey i respect lars too , but that doesnt mean just because you like/admire someone doesn't mean they do no wrong.. nor does it make will76 the bad guy for being the one with enough balls to say something about it..

will76 may come off as a bit of a drama queen but sometimes you gotta shout to be heard.. ( obviously at some point its no longer ballsy and just annoying but hey thats just my opinion. )

Do i think lars is the devil for buying into zango ? no
but by the same token i dont think will76 is the devil for making it a crusade for him ..

but screw the drama and lets get back to business .. if this is the new NORM for adult then lets be building some spyware folks..

If anything this zango this is a sounding horn to the adult industry thats its ok to use spyware to promote adult sites... not exactly the trend i wanted to see but i can live with it ..

Well if this and the other 10000 Lars / Will / Zabgo / AFF threads prove one thing, it's this...

THERE IS A HELL OF A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN SPYWARE!

Kimo · 11-17-2006, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

You raise an interesting point Smokey, at what point do others join in and follow Lars simply to offset the perceived competitive advantage he may have in using spyware to promote his programs. If enough programs jump on the bandwagon it could become an acceptable form of promotion. Certainly there are some standard promotion methods being used today, that back in 99 would have been considered risky and unethical.

This is exactly my worry. AFF/CAMS.com need to set an example for the Adult industry and say NO to adware.

Theo · 11-17-2006, 02:01 AM

the thread with the guy that commited suicide was very sad.

xxxjay · 11-17-2006, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kimo

This is exactly my worry. AFF/CAMS.com need to set an example for the Adult industry and say NO to adware.

I agree with that. After reading the post Lars made I can see his side of it too. Someone else would just get that tarrfic if AFF pull their bids.

I'll call them tomorrow personally and ask them to put down the crack pipe.

TampaToker · 11-17-2006, 02:04 AM

http://ads.x10.com/?ZzE4T2t3eGNhbS5k...0&keyword=xcam

lol they keep popin up now when i load http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/links/webcams.html

Also to let everyone know the top bidder gets 70% of the popup's the other
30% is sorted out between the rest of the bidders

xxxjay · 11-17-2006, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

http://ads.x10.com/?ZzE4T2t3eGNhbS5k...0&keyword=xcam

lol they keep popin up now when i load http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/links/webcams.html

Also to let everyone know the top bidder gets 70% of the popup's the other
30% is sorted out between the rest of the bidders

First, very brave of you to install that shit on your PC.

Second, give me a list of who these companies are.

TampaToker · 11-17-2006, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

First, very brave of you to install that shit on your PC.

Second, give me a list of who these companies are.

Man i been doing screencaps and videos since this all started allmost 2 months ago. I got a shitload of them here from all diffrent companys. There is also stuff going on behind the scenes that im not gonna post about. But this will benifit everyone in the long run. I will do some for you but you gonna have to install this shit yourself. You got like 14k of pages on that website

Tryme · 11-17-2006, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

First, very brave of you to install that shit on your PC.

Second, give me a list of who these companies are.

I don't understand why you aren't pissed off, if I lost as much traffic as you have I'd be wanting someone's head.

will76 · 11-17-2006, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

You know what...I will call Lars tomorrow and get to the bottom of this.

Novel idea. No?

Seriously man, I wish you luck. If you can get Lars to stop you the fucking MAN!

TampaToker · 11-17-2006, 02:18 AM

Also jay this type of adware shit can go after you company webistes to .

They can target your urls or keywords on your pages. This whole thing is a big fuckin mess

Zuss · 11-17-2006, 02:24 AM

So basically: LArs is a cool guy..yeah, he is a cool guy and will is not a cool guy..so lars is a pretty cool guy, and because he's such a cool guy, he should be supported. Despite of the fact, that he's stealing affiliate comission.

Idiot.

xxxjay · 11-17-2006, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuss

So basically: LArs is a cool guy..yeah, he is a cool guy and will is not a cool guy..so lars is a pretty cool guy, and because he's such a cool guy, he should be supported. Despite of the fact, that he's stealing affiliate comission.

Idiot.

Read the whole thread troll.

Daruma · 11-17-2006, 02:34 AM

jay.... best of luck on your call tomorrow, very interested to see what comes out of it

as you stated to tampa... it takes a lot of balls to install the shit because short of a total re-install its almost impossible to get rid of - that alone should be a reason to really put the brakes on and boycott at all levels any type of use of this traffic...

its kinda like a silent cancer that unless everyone - especially the top companies should set an example of not supporting or accepting any traffic in any way from this type of methods...

it hurts the customers... it hurts the affiliates and in the end hurts consumer and affiliate confidence in the products and programs

SomeCreep · 11-17-2006, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

You know what...I will call Lars tomorrow and get to the bottom of this.

Lets say it's an AFF affiliate bidding on your site's keywords and you get his account termed. Tomorrow, another affiliate will take his place and bid on the exact same keywords, except this time send the traffic to Clickcash. Then what can you do? Zango is the company everyone should be trying to shut down, not the affiliates and companies using them.

Daruma · 11-17-2006, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Zango is the company everyone should be trying to shut down, not the affiliates and companies using them.

while that is completely true... companies such as aff/cams should not be adding fuel to their fire by buying this traffic in the first place

it won't happen but if every company / affiliate / individual where to boycott the adult traffic that zango has - making it worthless then - in theory it would kill that part of their biz - but this would never in a million years happen

Tryme · 11-17-2006, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Lets say it's an AFF affiliate bidding on your site's keywords and you get his account termed. Tomorrow, another affiliate will take his place and bid on the exact same keywords, except this time send the traffic to Clickcash. Then what can you do? Zango is the company everyone should be trying to shut down, not the affiliates and companies using them.

that might be fine if it was an affiliate, but aff buys a shitload from zango so I tend to think it's them rather then an affiliate.

xxxjay · 11-17-2006, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Daruma

jay.... best of luck on your call tomorrow, very interested to see what comes out of it

as you stated to tampa... it takes a lot of balls to install the shit because short of a total re-install its almost impossible to get rid of - that alone should be a reason to really put the brakes on and boycott at all levels any type of use of this traffic...

its kinda like a silent cancer that unless everyone - especially the top companies should set an example of not supporting or accepting any traffic in any way from this type of methods...

it hurts the customers... it hurts the affiliates and in the end hurts consumer and affiliate confidence in the products and programs

Yep and the real tragedy is they will probably lose more money dropping their spyware campaigns than cutting out x number of affiliates that boycott. All of these threads are turning into a big advertisement for zango.

TampaToker · 11-17-2006, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Tryme

that might be fine if it was an affiliate, but aff buys a shitload from zango so I tend to think it's them rather then an affiliate.

according to my zango rep last week i was told i could not send it directly to aff site i would have to send it to my own site and the surfer would find there site thru my site. Things that make you go hum....

XPays · 11-17-2006, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Lets say it's an AFF affiliate bidding on your site's keywords and you get his account termed. Tomorrow, another affiliate will take his place and bid on the exact same keywords, except this time send the traffic to Clickcash. Then what can you do? Zango is the company everyone should be trying to shut down, not the affiliates and companies using them.

Please send us screencaps of what happens over xpays.com and hotelheiress.com and the bid system pricing cart to legal @ xpays

jay- you ever notice your shit just slowdown and you have a few gaps you never had before? your shit is up, your processor and sponsors all work- but.............

this is the story i am hearing. we have an affil who posts here who is seeing it as his competition pop over his site with zango. his domain is in the dating niche and aff is popping over him.

another thing is that zango adds a line to the top of their pop that says the site you were looking for does not function basically. even though your shit is showing in the background - it's too late - impulsive surfers are not as caring as us webmasters with regards to the tracking integrity.

Daruma · 11-17-2006, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Yep and the real tragedy is they will probably lose more money dropping their spyware campaigns than cutting out x number of affiliates that boycott. All of these threads are turning into a big advertisement for zango.

exactly..
the key for me is do what is right for long long term business..
sure if your looking to cash out in a year or 2 then the zango shit makes a lot of sense... as much cash and traffic as possible at any expense - to many people think only a year ahead

XPays · 11-17-2006, 03:03 AM

that's at the top of a page that is popping over something trademarked

Martin3 · 11-17-2006, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

I agree with that. After reading the post Lars made I can see his side of it too. Someone else would just get that tarrfic if AFF pull their bids.

I'll call them tomorrow personally and ask them to put down the crack pipe.

That post from Lars was pure bullshit and PR spin. If they were only bidding on cam traffic that would be one thing. But they're not, they also bid on domain names.

This is just one of many screens I have from when I tested it a week or so ago.

will76 · 11-17-2006, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Show me the money will76....show me the money will76!

All's I've seen is you on the board posting a lot of bullshit. I know 1000% that some of the shit you posted was total bullshit because you posted it about me.

I ask for URLs or evidence. You give me nothing.

If you keep repeating the same manta its easy to get the other sheep to believe it. Repeat it often enough, you might believe it yourself.

what are you talking about ? Lets do this, you give a link to what you are talkign about and I will explain it to you. I cant explain it to you when i have no clue what the hell you are talking about.

TampaToker · 11-17-2006, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by XPays

Please send us screencaps of what happens over xpays.com and hotelheiress.com and the bid system pricing cart to legal @ xpays

jay- you ever notice your shit just slowdown and you have a few gaps you never had before? your shit is up, your processor and sponsors all work- but.............

this is the story i am hearing. we have an affil who posts here who is seeing it as his competition pop over his site with zango. his domain is in the dating niche and aff is popping over him.

another thing is that zango adds a line to the top of their pop that says the site you were looking for does not function basically. even though your shit is showing in the background - it's too late - impulsive surfers are not as caring as us webmasters with regards to the tracking integrity.

Ok no one is bidding on your urls. Didnt see any popups either. I will recheck them in the morning.

TampaToker · 11-17-2006, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin3

That post from Lars was pure bullshit and PR spin. If they were only bidding on cam traffic that would be one thing. But they're not, they also bid on domain names.

This is just one of many screens I have from when I tested it a week or so ago.

thanks you saved me from searching for it

pradaboy · 11-17-2006, 03:17 AM

This is a very interesting thread, I doubt you'll get anything done from Lars though Jay.

XPays · 11-17-2006, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

Ok no one is bidding on your urls. Didnt see any popups either. I will recheck them in the morning.

one theory is that some people are throttling the skim on and off. much appreciated on the check and recheck. thank you.

andrej_NDC · 11-17-2006, 03:24 AM

Just visit the worst sites on the planet, sites with viruses, spyware, etc...those all love to promote AFF. Don't be naive.

11-17-2006, 01:35 AM	#61
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	hey i respect lars too , but that doesnt mean just because you like/admire someone doesn't mean they do no wrong.. nor does it make will76 the bad guy for being the one with enough balls to say something about it.. will76 may come off as a bit of a drama queen but sometimes you gotta shout to be heard.. ( obviously at some point its no longer ballsy and just annoying but hey thats just my opinion. ) Do i think lars is the devil for buying into zango ? no but by the same token i dont think will76 is the devil for making it a crusade for him .. but screw the drama and lets get back to business .. if this is the new NORM for adult then lets be building some spyware folks.. If anything this zango this is a sounding horn to the adult industry thats its ok to use spyware to promote adult sites... not exactly the trend i wanted to see but i can live with it .. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

11-17-2006, 01:39 AM	#65
Kimo ... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland ICQ:87038677 Posts: 11,542	Jay the quote and thread I posted shows Lars admitting that it is his company and not an affiliate. __________________ ...

11-17-2006, 01:43 AM	#67
TampaToker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,827	also jay that was the first page i clicked on your site. i can go thru you site if you like and see if there is anything else. Not tryin to be a smartass just offering you my help. __________________ Icq 247-742-205

11-17-2006, 02:04 AM	#77
TampaToker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,827	http://ads.x10.com/?ZzE4T2t3eGNhbS5k...0&keyword=xcam lol they keep popin up now when i load http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/links/webcams.html Also to let everyone know the top bidder gets 70% of the popup's the other 30% is sorted out between the rest of the bidders __________________ Icq 247-742-205

11-17-2006, 02:18 AM	#82
TampaToker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,827	Also jay this type of adware shit can go after you company webistes to . They can target your urls or keywords on your pages. This whole thing is a big fuckin mess __________________ Icq 247-742-205

11-17-2006, 01:30 AM	#57
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	jay, I hate to say it man, but I agree with others in this thread you obviously don't understand how zango works, and AFF is still on there BTW

11-17-2006, 01:35 AM	#62
Tryme Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 596	Does Jay not care about a 5%+ shave? If not then all sponsors he promotes should do it to him. Why should Aff be the only one to do it.

11-17-2006, 02:01 AM	#75
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	the thread with the guy that commited suicide was very sad.

11-17-2006, 02:24 AM	#83
Zuss Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,187	So basically: LArs is a cool guy..yeah, he is a cool guy and will is not a cool guy..so lars is a pretty cool guy, and because he's such a cool guy, he should be supported. Despite of the fact, that he's stealing affiliate comission. Idiot. __________________ I like cookies.

11-17-2006, 02:34 AM	#85
Daruma Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: PandaLand™ Posts: 3,494	jay.... best of luck on your call tomorrow, very interested to see what comes out of it as you stated to tampa... it takes a lot of balls to install the shit because short of a total re-install its almost impossible to get rid of - that alone should be a reason to really put the brakes on and boycott at all levels any type of use of this traffic... its kinda like a silent cancer that unless everyone - especially the top companies should set an example of not supporting or accepting any traffic in any way from this type of methods... it hurts the customers... it hurts the affiliates and in the end hurts consumer and affiliate confidence in the products and programs __________________ RIP TD

11-17-2006, 03:03 AM	#93
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11-17-2006, 03:17 AM	#98
pradaboy sell me your banners Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: on the tubes Posts: 12,931	This is a very interesting thread, I doubt you'll get anything done from Lars though Jay. __________________ Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic! FREE to register domains... Better than 99% of the crap sold here!

11-17-2006, 03:24 AM	#100
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	Just visit the worst sites on the planet, sites with viruses, spyware, etc...those all love to promote AFF. Don't be naive.