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lucky1 · 11-16-2006, 11:07 PM

All night long it seems that AFF and their supporters are trying to spin the hell out of the zango issue.

They have reduced a serious problem in the adult industry to a kindergarten argument.

I don't want to hear that this company is using zango or that company is using zango. I don't what to hear that Will is an asshole or Lars is an asshole. What I want are these questions answered from AFF since they are the only company that has come forward and admitted that they directly purchase traffic from zango.

Is Zango a problem in the adult industry as a whole?

Is theft on any level whether it is 20% or .0001% acceptable?

Do you bid on url's of other companies?

Does Zango pop up a page or window over a site thus possibly taking away traffic from the original site?

Why do you use zango if it is such a small portion of your traffic and income?

Are you doing anything to stop zango and if so what?

Serious questions and I would like serious answers.

Answer them right and gain some respect.
Extra points for honesty and I'll check your answers.

TampaToker · 11-16-2006, 11:11 PM

Good post

LiveDose · 11-16-2006, 11:12 PM

Just in case...

r-c-e · 11-16-2006, 11:16 PM

I'm with you LiveDose

lucky1 · 11-16-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

Good post

Thanks
I really would like to hear the answers to these questions.

he-fox · 11-16-2006, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucky1

Thanks
I really would like to hear the answers to these questions.

you won't

Nookster · 11-16-2006, 11:45 PM

I'de love to see the answers too but we all know we won't.

tony286 · 11-16-2006, 11:56 PM

I vote for you wont get answers.

Brujah · 11-17-2006, 12:10 AM

Ask yourself what motivation there is, to take a serious concern and turn it into a kindergarten argument.

lucky1 · 11-17-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Ask yourself what motivation there is, to take a serious concern and turn it into a kindergarten argument.

Thats an easy one.
To take the heat off of yourself and make a serious situation seem stupid.

See how easy that was. Simple question = Simple answer.

When will my questions get answered?

Kimo · 11-17-2006, 01:07 AM

bump for answers

will76 · 11-17-2006, 02:52 AM

Oh look big surprise, they are not posting.

I guess they can't blame me when I am not the one asking the questions....

lucky1 · 11-17-2006, 12:28 PM

Well it looks like these questions are still unanswered.

Sadly I have to say that it does not surprise me.

Instead of answering the questions that AFF doesn't want to answer they have decided to spin this issue around to the fact that ClickCash might be accepting zango traffic also.

The problem is that unlike AFF they have not come to this board and admitted that they are directly buying traffic from zango.

AFF loves to say they are #1 so since they are #1 they have to take the hit first. After they stop using zango it's on to the next program (be it ClickCash or whomever).

For me this isn't about Will or ClickCash or whether I like Lars or AFF. It's about zango, other companies like them, and the companies that perpetuate their growth.

I would really like these questions answered. I would like nothing more then to be shown that zango is not hurting this industry. If AFF can show me how it doesn't or give me good solid answers on what they are trying to do to stop it, I will be very thankful. So far all I have heard is spin which doesn't help the situation.

marketsmart · 11-17-2006, 12:32 PM

amen... i feel the same way... its not about taking sides, its about adressing the issues.... adware is bad for the industry, no denials about that...

ugaboogah · 11-17-2006, 01:30 PM

The sound of silince

Evil1 · 11-17-2006, 01:52 PM

The answers dont matter, whats important is theres a NEW CONTEST!!!!

plus 100 dollars to fly a sig and try to shift some attention off threads like this.

DateDoc · 11-17-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ugaboogah

The sound of silince

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lucky1 · 11-17-2006, 02:23 PM

Why oh Why will they not answer these questions?

It's not like this is a joke. I didn't ask if if Lars thought he was sexy or if he thought Will smelled funny.

These are serious questions that will help me to decide if I should send traffic to AFF or not.

Who knows, I could be totally misinformed and could have stopped sending traffic to AFF for no good reason. Yet these questions still go unanswered.

lucky1 · 11-17-2006, 05:41 PM

Still no answers.

will76 · 11-17-2006, 05:43 PM

bump for your answers/

lucky1 · 11-17-2006, 10:01 PM

Come on now, this is getting ridiculous.

I still haven't heard an answer to even one of these questions yet.

Do I need to resort to juvenile tactics to get some attention from AFF?

They have been pretty quiet since the spin on Will didn't work out when ifriends did something to help stop zango.

Tell us Lars, what are you doing to help stop zango and why haven't my questions been answered yet?

Double L · 11-18-2006, 12:28 AM

They're good questions, but surely you dont expect quality answers?

The best you'll get is some candycoated answer, a spin to avoid the questions or maybe Lars will post and just laugh (making himself look bad).

Your questions make sense, but if you're really asking because you are thinking of adding AFF in your traffic mix... Well, ask yourself the answer from what you've seen and you wont need any reply from AFF.

Evil1 · 11-18-2006, 02:34 AM

this one floated off the first page, cant let that happen

will76 · 11-18-2006, 02:41 AM

Anyone seen Lars ? Maybe we can ask Sexsearch where he is ?

RawAlex · 11-18-2006, 11:53 AM

Cue the crickets.

KrisKross · 11-18-2006, 11:57 AM

I'm surprised Lars and his cronies haven't filled this thread with pictures of themselves.

will76 · 11-18-2006, 10:34 PM

bump for your answers....

Evil1 · 11-19-2006, 03:53 PM

RawAlex · 11-19-2006, 03:54 PM

Sagi and Lars both have been posting today. Perhaps they didn't see this thread...

or maybe there is nothing they can add that would make them look pimp and good.

Tuga · 11-19-2006, 03:57 PM

Bump for answers.

nofx · 11-19-2006, 04:00 PM

bump for something I know will go unanswered

greed ruins us all

Andiz · 11-19-2006, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nofx

bump for something I know will go unanswered

greed ruins us all

HighSociety · 11-19-2006, 04:41 PM

nothing?

SGx · 11-19-2006, 05:42 PM

looks like not

free4porn · 11-19-2006, 05:43 PM

sig spot

HighSociety · 11-19-2006, 05:44 PM

whats the word?

lucky1 · 11-20-2006, 07:03 PM

Four days now and still no answers.

Is this the type of company you want to promote?

A company that won't address serious questions. Questions that pertain to their integrity and stance on an issue that is slowly killing this industry.

There is still time to answer Lars.
Hell at this point even a "we are working on a solution" response would be better than nothing.

SpeakEasy · 11-20-2006, 07:15 PM

Legendary Lair or Sagi the tool won't answer, they are most likely planning their next scam. Or wait maybe they had a good week of screwing and stealing so they will post another contest or raise payouts?........LMAO what a bunch of trolls they are.

scottybuzz · 11-20-2006, 07:17 PM

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will76 · 11-20-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

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jacklaidlaw · 11-20-2006, 07:20 PM

answers please

Evil1 · 11-20-2006, 07:27 PM

seems the took the sexsearch approach and just went into hiding

will76 · 11-20-2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil1

seems the took the sexsearch approach and just went into hiding

he banked his whole defense for using zango because clickcash hadn't closed affiliate accounts yet who were using it. That was changed Friday, haven't seen him post since.

TrafficHog · 11-20-2006, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

he banked his whole defense for using zango because clickcash hadn't closed affiliate accounts yet who were using it. That was changed Friday, haven't seen him post since.

You should have tried cleaning your own house before you went on rampage about someone else's business. Yes, the company that you are trying to back and say are so high and mighty had Zango traffic. Dumbass, they have had Zango traffic for years!!! Now you are saying if you see it report it and they will remove it. But here I see people posting companies they think support it WITHOUT giving them the benefit of the doubt that it might be an affiliate and they should REPORT it and get it removed like you advised people to do for ClickCash. Until now ClickCash has been taking Zango traffic for MANY years. Only now because you are bitching about other companies do you get caught and shown the error of your own ways and years of Zango traffic are forgotten??????????

Come on Wil76..... You studip shit. Yes, let's all get honest here. First, admit they have been taking Zango traffic for YEARS until you started your crusade and even now they are still taking it but it's an affiliate right???

Evil1 · 11-20-2006, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TrafficHog

You should have tried cleaning your own house before you went on rampage about someone else's business. Yes, the company that you are trying to back and say are so high and mighty had Zango traffic. Dumbass, they have had Zango traffic for years!!! Now you are saying if you see it report it and they will remove it. But here I see people posting companies they think support it WITHOUT giving them the benefit of the doubt that it might be an affiliate and they should REPORT it and get it removed like you advised people to do for ClickCash. Until now ClickCash has been taking Zango traffic for MANY years. Only now because you are bitching about other companies do you get caught and shown the error of your own ways and years of Zango traffic are forgotten??????????

Come on Wil76..... You studip shit. Yes, let's all get honest here. First, admit they have been taking Zango traffic for YEARS until you started your crusade and even now they are still taking it but it's an affiliate right???

hello lars

TrafficHog · 11-20-2006, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil1

hello lars

Um.... Nope.....

Will76, please tell me that you know 100% that ClickCash wasn't taking Zango traffic the last 5 years. Please... Please... just make a statement like "if there was any Zango traffic it must have been an affiliate" because I know 1000% there was a lot of Zango traffic going there. Please... tell me something like "we were unaware of the problem until now" because I know that a huge amount of Zango traffic has been going there and even until very lately it has still been going there uncaught... So ClickCash is completely out of all the bullshit?? Please someone tell how this is possible? Until the last few days there were multiple links to ClickCash. Will76 statement about if you see any report it and it will be removed are complete bullshit.

Scroto · 11-20-2006, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil1

hello lars

thats what i thought too

Sly · 11-20-2006, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrafficHog

You should have tried cleaning your own house before you went on rampage about someone else's business. Yes, the company that you are trying to back and say are so high and mighty had Zango traffic. Dumbass, they have had Zango traffic for years!!! Now you are saying if you see it report it and they will remove it. But here I see people posting companies they think support it WITHOUT giving them the benefit of the doubt that it might be an affiliate and they should REPORT it and get it removed like you advised people to do for ClickCash. Until now ClickCash has been taking Zango traffic for MANY years. Only now because you are bitching about other companies do you get caught and shown the error of your own ways and years of Zango traffic are forgotten??????????

Come on Wil76..... You studip shit. Yes, let's all get honest here. First, admit they have been taking Zango traffic for YEARS until you started your crusade and even now they are still taking it but it's an affiliate right???

Click Cash's participation in Zango like campaigns has absolutely nothing to do with the participation of AFF/Cams.com. They're separate issues. I don't see why people keep bringing this up. Yes, it is something Will should have looked into, but that doesn't change anything regarding AFF/Cams.com.

The lack of answers this thread has produced is pretty disappointing, though somewhat predictable. I've been trying to find answers to those exact questions for a few days now.

By the way, when somebody starts a thread about a specific company, there is absolutely no way possible that said specific company can say "oh we never saw the threads". The minute this thread was started, many ICQs were sent alerting the relevant parties. The minute a thread pops up about our company within 15 minutes I have 10 ICQs and usually an email or two.

hershie · 11-20-2006, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrafficHog

Um.... Nope.....

Will76, please tell me that you know 100% that ClickCash wasn't taking Zango traffic the last 5 years. Please... Please... just make a statement like "if there was any Zango traffic it must have been an affiliate" because I know 1000% there was a lot of Zango traffic going there. Please... tell me something like "we were unaware of the problem until now" because I know that a huge amount of Zango traffic has been going there and even until very lately it has still been going there uncaught... So ClickCash is completely out of all the bullshit?? Please someone tell how this is possible? Until the last few days there were multiple links to ClickCash. Will76 statement about if you see any report it and it will be removed are complete bullshit.

Are you suggesting this negates the case against AFF or Will's arguments aren't credible because ClickCash may be just as complicit as AFF with being in bed with Zango?

TrafficHog · 11-20-2006, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scroto

thats what i thought too

Have you not seen the latest posts from Will76 saying if you catch any ClickCash accounts please report them. He shows ONE screen cap of an account being TERMED. This has been going on for YEARS. Now ClickCash is out of the loop??? Open your minds people.

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lucky1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 309	Serious questions for AFF All night long it seems that AFF and their supporters are trying to spin the hell out of the zango issue. They have reduced a serious problem in the adult industry to a kindergarten argument. I don't want to hear that this company is using zango or that company is using zango. I don't what to hear that Will is an asshole or Lars is an asshole. What I want are these questions answered from AFF since they are the only company that has come forward and admitted that they directly purchase traffic from zango. Is Zango a problem in the adult industry as a whole? Is theft on any level whether it is 20% or .0001% acceptable? Do you bid on url's of other companies? Does Zango pop up a page or window over a site thus possibly taking away traffic from the original site? Why do you use zango if it is such a small portion of your traffic and income? Are you doing anything to stop zango and if so what? Serious questions and I would like serious answers. Answer them right and gain some respect. Extra points for honesty and I'll check your answers. __________________ - See sig --->

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lucky1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 309	Well it looks like these questions are still unanswered. Sadly I have to say that it does not surprise me. Instead of answering the questions that AFF doesn't want to answer they have decided to spin this issue around to the fact that ClickCash might be accepting zango traffic also. The problem is that unlike AFF they have not come to this board and admitted that they are directly buying traffic from zango. AFF loves to say they are #1 so since they are #1 they have to take the hit first. After they stop using zango it's on to the next program (be it ClickCash or whomever). For me this isn't about Will or ClickCash or whether I like Lars or AFF. It's about zango, other companies like them, and the companies that perpetuate their growth. I would really like these questions answered. I would like nothing more then to be shown that zango is not hurting this industry. If AFF can show me how it doesn't or give me good solid answers on what they are trying to do to stop it, I will be very thankful. So far all I have heard is spin which doesn't help the situation. __________________ - See sig --->

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lucky1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 309	Why oh Why will they not answer these questions? It's not like this is a joke. I didn't ask if if Lars thought he was sexy or if he thought Will smelled funny. These are serious questions that will help me to decide if I should send traffic to AFF or not. Who knows, I could be totally misinformed and could have stopped sending traffic to AFF for no good reason. Yet these questions still go unanswered. __________________ - See sig --->

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lucky1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 309	Come on now, this is getting ridiculous. I still haven't heard an answer to even one of these questions yet. Do I need to resort to juvenile tactics to get some attention from AFF? They have been pretty quiet since the spin on Will didn't work out when ifriends did something to help stop zango. Tell us Lars, what are you doing to help stop zango and why haven't my questions been answered yet? __________________ - See sig --->

11-18-2006, 12:28 AM	#22
Double L Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: US Posts: 349	They're good questions, but surely you dont expect quality answers? The best you'll get is some candycoated answer, a spin to avoid the questions or maybe Lars will post and just laugh (making himself look bad). Your questions make sense, but if you're really asking because you are thinking of adding AFF in your traffic mix... Well, ask yourself the answer from what you've seen and you wont need any reply from AFF.

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lucky1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 309	Four days now and still no answers. Is this the type of company you want to promote? A company that won't address serious questions. Questions that pertain to their integrity and stance on an issue that is slowly killing this industry. There is still time to answer Lars. Hell at this point even a "we are working on a solution" response would be better than nothing. __________________ - See sig --->

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