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pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-28-2006, 01:21 PM

Ok so I recieved my paymonde payment today to the funds2go account I have setup to recieve payments

so I login to my funds2go account to transfer the funds to my funds2go debit card

low and behold it didnt work retuned some sort of bank error or something , so im like WTF I then refresh the page and the account balance is showing zero

hmmm ok

so I figure maybe it transfered the funds to the card so I select the debit card balance option and the browser returns the following:

"
Debit Card Balance
Error Debit Card Balance Request
We are sorry, but we are unable to process your balance request at this time.

Please contact our customer support at (514)287-0009 ext.229 for assistance regarding this issue.

"

now im like really WTF

so I call the number, it rings a few times then the automated merlin system ( or whatever systemm it is) informs me that the extension has not been initialized yet so I would not be able to leave a message at that extension

now I do know that paymonde and MVC and PISO and funds2go are all the same company

so right now the account shows zero and I cannot access the debit card balance and it looks like the numbers goes to an extension that was just set up today

should I be worried??????

I spoke to I think a guy named allen yesterday and he assured me all was fine, explained how he met everyone at internext and they are totaly honest etc etc ( I think I may have met this guy someplace before not sure)

in any case hopefully by monday all of the issues with paymonde and there daughter companies will all be sorted out

otherwise

I will be worried

signed

----mr pissing me off would not be a good thing

squishypimp · 10-28-2006, 01:25 PM

sig spot.

BigBomb · 10-28-2006, 01:31 PM

have you tried to cash out funds from your funds2go card then?

beckie · 10-28-2006, 02:53 PM

Funny, I tried to set up (pay for the funds2go) card and it kept on giving me an error. I haven't heard from PISO/funds2go since the 21st, even though I have emailed/called them several times. It's for a few hundred, so I'm not really making it top priority. It just really pisses me off that they are jerking everyone around.

And yes, I met a few of them at Internext. I was impressed with how friendly they were, but am a little surprised at what big players they claimed to be there after all this mess a few months later.

MaDalton · 10-28-2006, 03:01 PM

you know what's really funny: the month october in the fubar calendar is sponsored by myvirtualcard and i have to look at them the whole day...

beckie · 10-28-2006, 03:05 PM

Funny - I didn't even notice that!!! The month is almost over with.

Webby · 10-28-2006, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beckie

And yes, I met a few of them at Internext. I was impressed with how friendly they were, but am a little surprised at what big players they claimed to be there after all this mess a few months later.

Beware of friendly people at conferences claiming to be "big players"

BTW - they are not.

Just ask for copies of their complete corp documents along with rap sheets of all officers and staff (copies of all passports would be helpful) and details of all parent and subsidiary companies and what jurisdictions these corps operate under. Sounds reasonable for any company that is going to have their hands on other people's money?

Seriously... why do processors think they can set up business using a lawyers office or a mailing address and claim that is an operating address? Total nuts!

MaddCaz · 10-28-2006, 04:36 PM

hmm not terribly familiar with paymonde...

Scotty.T · 10-28-2006, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

Seriously... why do processors think they can set up business using a lawyers office or a mailing address and claim that is an operating address? Total nuts!

Perfect example of this. I found the other Paymonde thread after doing a search for Ezpayment, after a sponsor contacted me about promoting him.

I checked out his site and found he was using Ezpaynet which I hadn't heard of so I dug about and found out that it uses the same address as an estate agents in Surrey, England

From the other thread I see that EZpaynet is just Paymonde/PISO.

Lykos · 10-28-2006, 05:37 PM

paymonde goes down.,....lol

BigBomb · 10-29-2006, 09:09 AM

I have recieved the wire from paymonde yesterday. So all is ok with payments from paymonde on this week.

Barefootsies · 10-29-2006, 09:14 AM

Not good sire!

I had e-mailed a couple of the gents over there last week to see what up. I had never heard back. Maybe they are just busy??

I have been receiving my payment(s), so I guess atleast in that regard things are still going well.

scottybuzz · 10-29-2006, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

Beware of friendly people at conferences claiming to be "big players"

BTW - they are not.

Just ask for copies of their complete corp documents along with rap sheets of all officers and staff (copies of all passports would be helpful) and details of all parent and subsidiary companies and what jurisdictions these corps operate under. Sounds reasonable for any company that is going to have their hands on other people's money?

Seriously... why do processors think they can set up business using a lawyers office or a mailing address and claim that is an operating address? Total nuts!

hahaha webby a paragraph from you with no

icons!!! your losing your touch buddy!

Barefootsies · 10-29-2006, 10:28 AM

Verotel added to 1st of 4 sites.

Webby · 10-29-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

hahaha webby a paragraph from you with no

icons!!! your losing your touch buddy!

hehe.. there are no

when it comes to other folks handling your money scotty - you should know that one

Webby · 10-29-2006, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Not good sire!

I had e-mailed a couple of the gents over there last week to see what up. I had never heard back. Maybe they are just busy??

I have been receiving my payment(s), so I guess atleast in that regard things are still going well.

All may be well - who knows?

With the disasterous trail of defunct payment processors in this business it kinda makes ya wary - especially if they are not transparent and cannot provide a "real" address (handy for serving the paperwork) or are entangled in multi-jurisdiction corps where the client is clueless about what law they are signing processing deals under.

Barefootsies · 10-29-2006, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

All may be well - who knows?

With the disasterous trail of defunct payment processors in this business it kinda makes ya wary - especially if they are not transparent and cannot provide a "real" address (handy for serving the paperwork) or are entangled in multi-jurisdiction corps where the client is clueless about what law they are signing processing deals under.

I hear ya mate. Maybe it's little more than a bump in the road for them, and everything's peachy. But after the whoas people had with some other companies, loosing thousands of dollars, noone's willing to take the risks and be as trusting..

Sad but true.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-30-2006, 06:29 AM

well today is monday

I will keep everyone posted

I am not going to call or email or try to contact them otherwise they are aware of their issues I expect all of them will be fixed today

Matt 26z · 10-30-2006, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyserver

well today is monday

Hopefully you get this worked out and they are Paytuesde.

Turf · 10-30-2006, 08:30 AM

hmm.5678

123Roman · 10-30-2006, 08:40 AM

shity company

javmen · 10-30-2006, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyserver

well today is monday

.... nothing not yet no money no answers

and a few more hours to go.......

Verotel can you hear me.... here i come

123Roman · 10-30-2006, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javmen

.... nothing not yet no money no answers

and a few more hours to go.......

Verotel can you hear me.... here i come

I hope you get your money,

123Roman · 10-30-2006, 11:45 AM

maybe you guys like to take part in my poll? http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...1#post11191847

samo · 10-30-2006, 12:49 PM

I got my money last Thursday and the funds2go card was working. Today I tried to see my balance and its giving me an error also. Now IM starting to be worried, but I hope all turn out well.

123Roman · 10-30-2006, 01:18 PM

to everybody, the peple from funds2go/paymonde DO watch this board...see this thread:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...1#post11191847

If you keep complaining on the boards, they will see it...

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-30-2006, 02:42 PM

Ok I just got off the phone with paymonde/piso/mvc/piso/funds2go

here is exactly what I was told this is almost verbatim

[conversation]

" well you know my boss just told me that there was a huge flood in canada and the bank that the funds2go cards use got all flooded out over the weekend, and we thought the bank was going to be ok by today...but i guess its not,,,,,can i take down your info and have someone call you in the morning? ( me: sure ) well ok they will call you"

[/conversation]

Barefootsies · 10-30-2006, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyserver

Ok I just got off the phone with paymonde/piso/mvc/piso/funds2go

here is exactly what I was told this is almost verbatim

[conversation]

" well you know my boss just told me that there was a huge flood in canada and the bank that the funds2go cards use got all flooded out over the weekend, and we thought the bank was going to be ok by today...but i guess its not,,,,,can i take down your info and have someone call you in the morning? ( me: sure ) well ok they will call you"

[/conversation]

Calico Jack · 10-30-2006, 10:32 PM

Got another check in the mail today from them.

Tat2Jr · 10-31-2006, 06:15 AM

bump bump

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-31-2006, 01:25 PM

got this in email about 30 minutes

[paymonde email ]

Dear Merchant,
Please be advised that the service has been restored for the following: (Card Activation, Card load, Balance inquiry). Also, funds that have been loaded over the weekend which are still pending, will be cancelled and returned to your funds2go account shortly.
Thank you for your patience and understanding, The Funds2Go Sales Team.

[/paymonde email ]

not sure if this means everything is OK since I am still missing last weeks payment from the account

we shall see

Webby · 10-31-2006, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyserver

not sure if this means everything is OK since I am still missing last weeks payment from the account

we shall see

That part may be a simple technically ps, tho there is fair reason to consider the fundamentals of this association of companies has something lacking.

Bottom line.. be wary. We have tolerated enough assholes attempting to be payment processors in this business and failing any test of basic transparency over their companies and it's activities and expecting others to trust them with funds.

123Roman · 10-31-2006, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

That part may be a simple technically ps, tho there is fair reason to consider the fundamentals of this association of companies has something lacking.

Bottom line.. be wary. We have tolerated enough assholes attempting to be payment processors in this business and failing any test of basic transparency over their companies and it's activities and expecting others to trust them with funds.

interesting point...

Barefootsies · 10-31-2006, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyserver

got this in email about 30 minutes

[paymonde email ]

Dear Merchant,
Please be advised that the service has been restored for the following: (Card Activation, Card load, Balance inquiry). Also, funds that have been loaded over the weekend which are still pending, will be cancelled and returned to your funds2go account shortly.
Thank you for your patience and understanding, The Funds2Go Sales Team.

[/paymonde email ]

not sure if this means everything is OK since I am still missing last weeks payment from the account

we shall see

Sounds like the server, or water damage, whatever.... issue has now been resolved.

Some good news anyways.

gooddomains · 11-01-2006, 01:07 AM

all is fine

Barefootsies · 11-01-2006, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains

all is fine

123Roman · 11-01-2006, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains

all is fine

How you know? Who are you that puts you in a position to know? Are you there customer? I am there customer, and I don't know that everything will be fine....are you in bed with them? You must be...HOW DO YOU KNOW all is fine? Put up or shut up....maybe you are jollyjoe...

Barefootsies · 11-01-2006, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 123Roman

How you know? Who are you that puts you in a position to know? Are you there customer? I am there customer, and I don't know that everything will be fine....are you in bed with them? You must be...HOW DO YOU KNOW all is fine? Put up or shut up....maybe you are jollyjoe...

mistermee · 11-02-2006, 07:58 AM

9 days since Paymonde deigned to comment on their current problems. As of today, NO processing of Mastercards, NO idea whether anyone will be paid, NO effort whatsoever to communicate with webmaster clients.

You have to wonder what possibly could be going on in their so-called minds. If you tried, you couldn't dream-up a more perfect way to destroy your business.

Barefootsies · 11-02-2006, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermee

9 days since Paymonde deigned to comment on their current problems. As of today, NO processing of Mastercards, NO idea whether anyone will be paid, NO effort whatsoever to communicate with webmaster clients.

You have to wonder what possibly could be going on in their so-called minds. If you tried, you couldn't dream-up a more perfect way to destroy your business.

I have been receiving my payments so far, and they have done 1, maybe 2, updates in their control panel to the issue with MC. But on the whole, I would have to agree that the lack of communication is damaging their company's name.

I do not see the logic in it either? I mean, yesterday CCBill had an issue. There is a thread(s) about it, and you have a handful of CCBill peeps answering in the e-mail about the progress.

mistermee · 11-03-2006, 10:49 AM

10 days of Paymonde silence to its webmaster customers. 10 days without a single word when they will be able to process Mastercards. 10 days with no idea when or IF they will make pay-outs. 10 days with our customers freaking out and cancelling.

The Ibill nightmare all over again!

gooddomains · 11-03-2006, 10:51 AM

all will be fine

Webby · 11-03-2006, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermee

10 days of Paymonde silence to its webmaster customers. 10 days without a single word when they will be able to process Mastercards. 10 days with no idea when or IF they will make pay-outs. 10 days with our customers freaking out and cancelling.

The Ibill nightmare all over again!

You know who actually owns Paymode?

Cutting all the corp bullshit, - is it Ezpaynet Limited operating out of a mail drop in Guildford UK and an unknown entity called Piso with a questionable mail drop in Makati, Philippines? You know any of the individuals who are associated or are corp officers?

Another question - know what connection there is to Funds2Go Inc. which is supposed to be a Nevada corp with another reluctance to be transparent?

PS As far as I know the word "piso" is the local language version of "pesos" - around 100 centavos. Is someone taking the piss??

gooddomains · 11-03-2006, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

You know who actually owns Paymode?

Cutting all the corp bullshit, - is it Ezpaynet Limited operating out of a mail drop in Guildford UK and an unknown entity called Piso with a questionable mail drop in Makati, Philippines? You know any of the individuals who are associated or are corp officers?

Another question - know what connection there is to Funds2Go Inc. which is supposed to be a Nevada corp with another reluctance to be transparent?

PS As far as I know the word "piso" is the local language version of "pesos" - around 100 centavos. Is someone taking the piss??

All will be fine

Webby · 11-03-2006, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains

All will be fine

Got full faith in that

123Roman · 11-03-2006, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains

All will be fine

STFU

mistermee · 11-04-2006, 12:39 PM

11 straight days without a SINGLE update from Paymonde concerning their situation. Count em, boys, 11 days and now payouts are once again overdue and wanting. This isn't just corporate suicide, this is some kind of ritualized weirdness that defies almost every explanation.

11 days and counting...

Barefootsies · 11-04-2006, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

Got full faith in that

Webby's on da case.

Barefootsies · 11-06-2006, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermee

11 straight days without a SINGLE update from Paymonde concerning their situation. Count em, boys, 11 days and now payouts are once again overdue and wanting. This isn't just corporate suicide, this is some kind of ritualized weirdness that defies almost every explanation.

That about sums it up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermee

11 days and counting...

HighSociety · 11-06-2006, 09:55 AM

fifty ....

10-28-2006, 01:21 PM	#1
pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	Paymonde Part 2 Ok so I recieved my paymonde payment today to the funds2go account I have setup to recieve payments so I login to my funds2go account to transfer the funds to my funds2go debit card low and behold it didnt work retuned some sort of bank error or something , so im like WTF I then refresh the page and the account balance is showing zero hmmm ok so I figure maybe it transfered the funds to the card so I select the debit card balance option and the browser returns the following: " Debit Card Balance Error Debit Card Balance Request We are sorry, but we are unable to process your balance request at this time. Please contact our customer support at (514)287-0009 ext.229 for assistance regarding this issue. " now im like really WTF so I call the number, it rings a few times then the automated merlin system ( or whatever systemm it is) informs me that the extension has not been initialized yet so I would not be able to leave a message at that extension now I do know that paymonde and MVC and PISO and funds2go are all the same company so right now the account shows zero and I cannot access the debit card balance and it looks like the numbers goes to an extension that was just set up today should I be worried?????? I spoke to I think a guy named allen yesterday and he assured me all was fine, explained how he met everyone at internext and they are totaly honest etc etc ( I think I may have met this guy someplace before not sure) in any case hopefully by monday all of the issues with paymonde and there daughter companies will all be sorted out otherwise I will be worried signed ----mr pissing me off would not be a good thing

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10-29-2006, 09:09 AM	#11
BigBomb Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 80	I have recieved the wire from paymonde yesterday. So all is ok with payments from paymonde on this week.

10-29-2006, 09:14 AM	#12
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10-30-2006, 06:29 AM	#18
pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	well today is monday I will keep everyone posted I am not going to call or email or try to contact them otherwise they are aware of their issues I expect all of them will be fixed today

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10-30-2006, 11:45 AM	#24
123Roman Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 237	poll maybe you guys like to take part in my poll? http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...1#post11191847

10-30-2006, 12:49 PM	#25
samo Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 179	I got my money last Thursday and the funds2go card was working. Today I tried to see my balance and its giving me an error also. Now IM starting to be worried, but I hope all turn out well.

10-30-2006, 01:18 PM	#26
123Roman Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 237	to everybody, the peple from funds2go/paymonde DO watch this board...see this thread: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...1#post11191847 If you keep complaining on the boards, they will see it...

10-30-2006, 02:42 PM	#27
pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	Ok I just got off the phone with paymonde/piso/mvc/piso/funds2go here is exactly what I was told this is almost verbatim [conversation] " well you know my boss just told me that there was a huge flood in canada and the bank that the funds2go cards use got all flooded out over the weekend, and we thought the bank was going to be ok by today...but i guess its not,,,,,can i take down your info and have someone call you in the morning? ( me: sure ) well ok they will call you" [/conversation]

10-30-2006, 10:32 PM	#29
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10-31-2006, 01:25 PM	#31
pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	got this in email about 30 minutes [paymonde email ] Dear Merchant, Please be advised that the service has been restored for the following: (Card Activation, Card load, Balance inquiry). Also, funds that have been loaded over the weekend which are still pending, will be cancelled and returned to your funds2go account shortly. Thank you for your patience and understanding, The Funds2Go Sales Team. [/paymonde email ] not sure if this means everything is OK since I am still missing last weeks payment from the account we shall see

11-01-2006, 01:07 AM	#35
gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	all is fine

11-02-2006, 07:58 AM	#39
mistermee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 104	9 days since Paymonde deigned to comment on their current problems. As of today, NO processing of Mastercards, NO idea whether anyone will be paid, NO effort whatsoever to communicate with webmaster clients. You have to wonder what possibly could be going on in their so-called minds. If you tried, you couldn't dream-up a more perfect way to destroy your business.

11-03-2006, 10:49 AM	#41
mistermee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 104	10 days of Paymonde silence to its webmaster customers. 10 days without a single word when they will be able to process Mastercards. 10 days with no idea when or IF they will make pay-outs. 10 days with our customers freaking out and cancelling. The Ibill nightmare all over again!

11-03-2006, 10:51 AM	#42
gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	all will be fine

11-04-2006, 12:39 PM	#47
mistermee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 104	11 straight days without a SINGLE update from Paymonde concerning their situation. Count em, boys, 11 days and now payouts are once again overdue and wanting. This isn't just corporate suicide, this is some kind of ritualized weirdness that defies almost every explanation. 11 days and counting...

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