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Signup with Zangocash, and promote AFF and/or the top sponsors of everyone in this thread who are defending the practice. They don't care.. you've seen it yourself.- Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com
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There already are, well 8 main ones according to Ben Edelmen
I tend to focus on the following:
Zango/180solutions, Direct Revenue, SurfSideKick, Look2Me, ZenoTecnico, Command,
TargetSaver, Integrated Search Technologies
These all show competitively-targeted pop-ups, including commission-seizing
popups.
There are probably others, but these tend to be my focus.
Adware will only be stopped by a ground swell of millions of pissed off surfers pushing for laws to outlaw the practise. Sorry to tell you but a ground swell of adult webmasters complaining isn't going to change anything.
You do what you feel is right but consider this. Lets say your complaining forced every adult sponsor to stop using zango and every other adware company out there. It won't happen but lets say it did. Do you know how many mainstrean sites (and not only dating) there are out there that would then be the top bidder on those keywords?But if we don't continually complain about one sponsor who uses zango we are doing nothing right?
Just like 100 adult webmasters standing on a corner waving signs to get CP removed from the Net won't make a dent in the problem. Hell most people driving by would think we are promoting it.Comment
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I did not say I was doing nothing.
I am using .htaccess to send anyone using Zango to a page telling them how to remove it, just as some others are.
They get nothing from my sites, so they either remove Zango or go to some other site that will be stolen from.
It is probably hurting my traffic, but I'm doing my small part to get rid of Zango users.
If I were unethical, I would simply send them to someone else directly in a trade. But, I just give them a Zango removal page and that's all they get from me.
So I am hurting myself today to try to have a better tomorrow for everyone.
I would like to know if there is a way to implement a solution server-wide without having to change .htaccess across a few hundred domains.Comment
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the main problem with just replacing them with something else is these pop ups are trigged to pop with keywords like dating, etc. so you could promote someone who doesn't use zango at all but if they bid on words that appear on your page, or even others url's you are still screwed.I was going to say you summed it up very well, but it was a little lengthy to be considered "summed up."
As I have told others, if you notice your sales dropping as a result, move on.
I don't really get why everyone is jumping on AFF, except that they love bandwagons. If you promote AFF and your income is dropping because of zango, it is pretty easy to change your links, if you have built sites with foresight.you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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Trust
It is disgusting. Now it is the same as the shaving. If you still make money, let them steal a little.
For me it is a matter of trust. If I am an affiliate fore someone year after year, he becomes a freind you can trust. And then, suddenly, you find out that he has been stealing form you all the time. How is it just possible that you still doing bussiness with him?
It is all of you out there not leaving sponsors stealing from you making this shit to continue.
And converting has nothing to do with this. You convert good at what left for you.Comment
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You're right, its a very good point, too bad you don't believe in it. As Mutt said, right now its only affecting people on a minimal level. However, if we take your approach Sleazy and only concern ourselves with our own pocketbook and allow companies such as Zango to go unchecked, then the problem is only going to worsen to the point where it will affect some on a much larger scale.
Sleazy, install Zango on a pc and click your AFF ads and see what happens. I'd speculate that at least 5-10% of your traffic is affected by Zango and thats 5-10% of your ad clicks that will most likely now not buy from your links."WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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Way to compare apples to oranges, we were discussing a sponsor who spends money directly with Zango, not companies that do business with others who use Zango. The bottom line Sleazy is that you don't have the guts to do something positive for the industry and are only concerned with the short term and your pocketbook. I have no problem with you taking this approach, but don't try and spin it and make it seem something it isn't, fucking idiot."WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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Why bother promoting anyone except Zangocash at all? The people who are losing most from all this are sponsors who are not scumware customers and don't have any affiliates buying their domain names or keywords. Yet the reaction from them has been even more limited than that from affiliates.
Working with scumware will either stop or expand: it certainly won't stand still. So how much longer before more traffic is stolen in more categories?
It is easier to attack someone outside of our industry, especially because if you can convince yourself a sponsor isn't to blame, you can go on promoting him without feeling like too much of a fool. But just as there were sponsors willing to cut corners before Zango came along, they will be there when Zango is gone. Why not, when you can apparently do pretty much anything and the "sheep" will take it?
If we ever want to see this business cleaned up we need to ensure there are consequences for people who choose to put their own short-term gains ahead of reasonable professional standards and the health of our industry.Comment
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fact is - you will do this.
you will promote sponsers that use cookies that saw someone else first - marked the cookie but bought from your site - you didn't get paid.
you will promote sponsers that don't use cookies so when i surfer manualy removed the affilate code you don't get paid.
you will promote sponsers that use cross sells one day and not the next and don't tell you or change you payout.
in the end all one is really concerned out is how much YOU get paid - that's itThis dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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