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nation-x · 11-02-2006, 08:15 AM

I am always reading bullshit replies and threads about linking sites that have the same Class C IP range or similiar IPs. THIS IS A MYTH! The only thing that matters is content... if you have a bunch of sites that are exactly the same then YES YOU WILL BE PENALIZED... but having lots of sites on the same ip does not matter. It's common.... A bunch of fake tgps are not considered duplicate content typically because if you use alt tags and rotate the galleries then it's statistically impossible to have the exact same content.

Don't believe me? Listen to GoogleGuy (Matt Cutts) tell you then.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...d&hl=undefined

Don't know who GoogleGuy is? Refer to google search results.
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...en&q=googleguy

MyNameIsNobody · 11-02-2006, 08:28 AM

"in general, if you're a average webmaster this is something I wouldn't really worry about"

He says you shouldn't be worried meaning(I think) the sites won't be deleted from the index or anything like that but I think google will see links coming from other ip's as more valuable than links coming from the same ip.

kun4 · 11-02-2006, 08:36 AM

good advice , thanks

charlie g · 11-02-2006, 09:19 AM

He specifically mentioned 5 or 6 sites would be ok. He also said 2000 was way too many. I wonder what the line really is. I am running a couple hundred, is that too many?

Kimo · 11-02-2006, 09:27 AM

lol................

Sublim3 · 11-02-2006, 09:33 AM

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starpimps · 11-02-2006, 10:41 AM

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baddog · 11-02-2006, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nation-x

I am always reading bullshit replies and threads about linking sites that have the same Class C IP range or similiar IPs. THIS IS A MYTH! The only thing that matters is content... if you have a bunch of sites that are exactly the same then YES YOU WILL BE PENALIZED... but having lots of sites on the same ip does not matter. It's common.... A bunch of fake tgps are not considered duplicate content typically because if you use alt tags and rotate the galleries then it's statistically impossible to have the exact same content.

Don't believe me? Listen to GoogleGuy (Matt Cutts) tell you then.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...d&hl=undefined

Don't know who GoogleGuy is? Refer to google search results.
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...en&q=googleguy

You going to listen to some guy named GoogleGuy or Google?

baddog · 11-02-2006, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyNameIsNobody

"in general, if you're a average webmaster this is something I wouldn't really worry about"

He says you shouldn't be worried meaning(I think) the sites won't be deleted from the index or anything like that but I think google will see links coming from other ip's as more valuable than links coming from the same ip.

From the same IP will be given as much value as as internal link. About

WiredGuy · 11-02-2006, 10:51 AM

Consider the source, Matt Cutts works for Google, not for webmasters. Take into interest the fact that his comments influence webmasters to not practice spam techniques, it doesn't necessarily mean they're true. Disinformation is quite a powerful way to convince the masses to keeping their sites clean. Always experiment for yourself and don't take Matt's word for things as his interest is his loyalty to Google, not to your bottom line.
WG

pornguy · 11-02-2006, 10:56 AM

Google is the reason to live

DesignWise · 11-02-2006, 11:22 AM

google usually updates their algorithm and when you already figured things out.. they have changed things already...

im not an seo guy but most of matt's advice helped me out..

pufy · 11-02-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie g

He specifically mentioned 5 or 6 sites would be ok. He also said 2000 was way too many. I wonder what the line really is. I am running a couple hundred, is that too many?

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chaze · 11-02-2006, 12:13 PM

There are too many sheep that listen and don't research.

You just have to read the website, it says the i.p. does not matter.

http://www.google.com/support/webmas...37&ctx=sibling

Not too mention I know several top listed webmasters and none try to cheat the search engines. Not one. And since we are top listed we do talk about it.

Anyways people will only do what they want, so feel free to pay a couple extra bucks a month for a i.p. or more for multiple class c's but really you are throwing your money away unless you need a dedicated i.p. for ssl or program testing.

footmonkey · 11-02-2006, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

From the same IP will be given as much value as as internal link. About

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Host Crowding = If multiple results come from the same Web host, then only the first two are returned.

That sounds pretty clear. If you are one of the first two its ok but if not it sucks.

DamageX · 11-02-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You going to listen to some guy named GoogleGuy or Google?

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Host Crowding = If multiple results come from the same Web host, then only the first two are returned.

This would only affect you if all the sites you have on the same host are targetting the same term. Or if you want to listen to people who sell SEO hosting.

Barefootsies · 11-02-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

From the same IP will be given as much value as as internal link. About

baddog · 11-02-2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

This would only affect you if all the sites you have on the same host are targetting the same term.

No one from GWH has ever disputed that, but actually it is a little deeper than the same term, it is more like the same theme.

But you can definitely put multiple sites on the same IP if you are not interlinking or dealing with the same topic.

ie: If you have 5 sites, one on cars, one on dogs, one on apples, one on stereos, and one on mortgages, and you aren't linking them together you can put them on the same IP.

chaze · 11-02-2006, 12:58 PM

Silly, so you saying of the couple hundred sites on a server there might be so many with the exact terms of your website that are top listed that they will get you kicked off the front page of Google?

The odds of that are about 1/10000000000

Think about it. I wouldn't pay 10 cents to insure that.

edgeprod · 11-02-2006, 01:03 PM

This was a funny read .. it's amazing what people will believe.

11-02-2006, 08:15 AM	#1
nation-x Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,370	Google Myths I am always reading bullshit replies and threads about linking sites that have the same Class C IP range or similiar IPs. THIS IS A MYTH! The only thing that matters is content... if you have a bunch of sites that are exactly the same then YES YOU WILL BE PENALIZED... but having lots of sites on the same ip does not matter. It's common.... A bunch of fake tgps are not considered duplicate content typically because if you use alt tags and rotate the galleries then it's statistically impossible to have the exact same content. Don't believe me? Listen to GoogleGuy (Matt Cutts) tell you then. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...d&hl=undefined Don't know who GoogleGuy is? Refer to google search results. http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...en&q=googleguy

11-02-2006, 08:28 AM	#2
MyNameIsNobody Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Swedän Posts: 2,947	"in general, if you're a average webmaster this is something I wouldn't really worry about" He says you shouldn't be worried meaning(I think) the sites won't be deleted from the index or anything like that but I think google will see links coming from other ip's as more valuable than links coming from the same ip. __________________ MyNameIsNobody - ICQ: 279-601-583

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charlie g Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Center of the Universe Posts: 2,759	He specifically mentioned 5 or 6 sites would be ok. He also said 2000 was way too many. I wonder what the line really is. I am running a couple hundred, is that too many?

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11-02-2006, 12:13 PM	#14
chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	There are too many sheep that listen and don't research. You just have to read the website, it says the i.p. does not matter. http://www.google.com/support/webmas...37&ctx=sibling Not too mention I know several top listed webmasters and none try to cheat the search engines. Not one. And since we are top listed we do talk about it. Anyways people will only do what they want, so feel free to pay a couple extra bucks a month for a i.p. or more for multiple class c's but really you are throwing your money away unless you need a dedicated i.p. for ssl or program testing.

11-02-2006, 12:58 PM	#19
chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	Silly, so you saying of the couple hundred sites on a server there might be so many with the exact terms of your website that are top listed that they will get you kicked off the front page of Google? The odds of that are about 1/10000000000 Think about it. I wouldn't pay 10 cents to insure that.

11-02-2006, 01:03 PM	#20
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	This was a funny read .. it's amazing what people will believe.